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Flight to jersey from Heathrow or exeter?

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JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 10:44

Hi all, short overview of my issue.
I have a non verbal autistic DD (4). By the time we fly, she'll be 5. She's in a special needs school and we are working on pecs. She has trouble with transitions but generally enjoys going out to new places and is a happy child. I am not worried about taking her away on a short summer holiday to Jersey. I think she'll love it. I am worried a bit of how she may feel on the plane, but since it's such a short flight, I think it should be manageable.
But here's my problem. I am extremely frightened of flying. I've flown a lot, but the last time I did (a long haul), I had a panic attack and it scared me so much that I've not flown in 8 years.
I hate being like that. I hate missing out on lovely holidays and I don't want my DD to miss out because of me.
So that's why I decided to book a Jersey holiday at Golden Sands, but I've not yet booked the flight. I was going to book Exeter airport (Blue Islands) as it's local and the flight would only be 45 minutes, however I understand those are small planes (with about 40 seats). I am frightened that a small plane would feel turbulence worse and make my anxiety worse...and therefore make it harder to take care of my DD.
So I'm considering driving 3+ hours up to London and catching a BA or EasyJet to Jersey instead. This adds additional cost (£70 if I book a hotel the night before, plus another £80 for parking, and fuel driving up).

I'm not sure if going via London is the best solution to ease me back into flying or if I'm being silly and should just book the Exeter flight.

So please mumsnet, help me!
YABU to book a flight from london when Exeter will be fine!
YANBU - small planes suck, go large!

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Meadowfinch · 20/01/2024 18:42

OP, Blue Island are lovely. They are everything that budget airlines are not. They have nice staff, and proper customer services and don't get arsey about luggage or try to fleece you if you want to sit together or have a problem with checking in on-line.. They are SO much easier to deal with.

I've flown to Guernsey & Jersey with Blue Island and prefer them to any other airline.

LlynTegid · 20/01/2024 18:37

Have a lovely time OP (I am biased as I have ancestors born there!!)

Malbecfan · 20/01/2024 18:20

Our DDs' first flight was EXT to Guernsey in a Q400 Dash 8 prop plane with Flybe (they were brilliant!). The flight lasted 40 minutes during which time they had a J20 each and a small pack of Pringles. They didn't want to get off!

Since then, they have flown in all sorts from 747s (BA/Virgin) to a Cessna 172 with Daddy the pilot and been very happy.

I second the watching videos to help your anxiety. I'm not a massive fan of turbulence but watching Big Jet TV on YouTube has massively increased my confidence in the ability of the crew to deal with situations. Mentour Pilot mentioned earlier is also excellent. Have a fab holiday.

FictionalCharacter · 20/01/2024 18:05

Well done!
BTW if you fly with Blue Islands on one of the ATR-72s - they really aren't that noisy.

Be prepared for them landing very short, so it feels like very strong braking when you land. It's perfectly safe and normal, just feels more forceful than the longer landing you'd get on a jet.

JennyBeanR · 20/01/2024 17:49

I've booked the flight from Exeter and signed up for the Easy jet fearless flying course.
Thank you everyone for the advice! I'm feeling positive about taking the course and looking forward to Jersey.

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Trainham · 13/01/2024 08:32

You can also book assistance as your daughter has additional needs which usually means you can fast track through security ,checking in and board plane first. Different airport ( I have found ) have slightly different procedures.

Also on jersey there is an adaptive boat for wheel Chairs uses but is for those with additional needs and their families can also go for a ride on .there is also surfing ( healing waves) that those with disabilities and families can do surfing together. I did both last year and highly recommend them if that is something you both might like.book in advance.

TeenDivided · 13/01/2024 07:44

JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 20:06

And to people mentioning the ferry. I don't think that would work well with my DD since I've read that it can be very turbulent and unreliable. I am also not sure if I wouldn't get seasick as I've not been on a ferry since I was a kid (and definitely vomited then).

I wouldn't book the fastcat, it can be like roller coaster in poor weather and cancelled more easily than the slow boat.
The Clipper from Portsmouth is usually pretty stable, but it takes a long time 9-5 ish daytime going over and 9pm-6am night time on return.
We used to do the Clipper, booked a superior cabin even in the daytime with a DVD player and my DDs were set for the journey. These days DH takes the car and luggage on the Clipper and DD2 and I fly out a few days later.

JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 20:06

And to people mentioning the ferry. I don't think that would work well with my DD since I've read that it can be very turbulent and unreliable. I am also not sure if I wouldn't get seasick as I've not been on a ferry since I was a kid (and definitely vomited then).

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JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 20:04

soupandcrackers · 12/01/2024 11:49

Hi OP, I think going from Exeter to Jersey will be nicer. You'll probably take off, gain height, then descend as the flight is so short.

Do you have the time/money/inclination to complete a fear of flying course? I have a close friend who has severe OCD, anxiety, panic attacks and all the rest of it, and has cancelled holidays at the last moment (leaving me in the lurch, lol) because she couldn't handle flying. A few years ago she did a course with either BA or Virgin, I can't remember which, but not long after she was jetting off on holiday a few times a year. She even flew from Heathrow to Australia by herself! She still gets nervous, but she doesn't have such a terrible time anymore. I would highly recommend it :) https://flyingwithconfidence.com/

Thank you! They are pricey but I am considering it if it's so well reviewed. I see there are online courses, that might be more suitable.

I stuck a reminder in my calendar to look into booking one in March. I think it's likely to be more effective if I don't do it too far in advance. The 3 month online course looks promising. I also see that I can book special fear of flying flights from Bristol...that might be even better than going cold with my DD in August.

Also, I see a few people pointed out the planes are 70+ seats. Yes, it looks like I was reading some old sites! I went through booking a blue island flight on their website and could see that it is indeed larger than I thought. I know it might seem silly but that does make me feel calmer about it as well.

I love mumsnet :) Thank you everyone who took time to reply.

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WeeJimmycranky · 12/01/2024 13:35

however I understand those are small planes (with about 40 seats).
A quick google suggests they replaced the ATR 42s (46 seats) with 72s (72 seaters) in 2022, so you'd be on a larger, albeit still propeller plane.

HappyHamsters · 12/01/2024 13:26

There are ferries from Portsmouth and Poole to St Helier if that's easier

TeenDivided · 12/01/2024 13:18

The zoo is v.good but pricey. (We are members)
Walking out on the causeway to Corbiere lighthouse is fun and free.
The Maritime museum in St Helier is interactive.

However as it is only 3 days and you are based in St Brelades and you like beaches then you may find you don't need to move at all. Smile

soupandcrackers · 12/01/2024 11:49

Hi OP, I think going from Exeter to Jersey will be nicer. You'll probably take off, gain height, then descend as the flight is so short.

Do you have the time/money/inclination to complete a fear of flying course? I have a close friend who has severe OCD, anxiety, panic attacks and all the rest of it, and has cancelled holidays at the last moment (leaving me in the lurch, lol) because she couldn't handle flying. A few years ago she did a course with either BA or Virgin, I can't remember which, but not long after she was jetting off on holiday a few times a year. She even flew from Heathrow to Australia by herself! She still gets nervous, but she doesn't have such a terrible time anymore. I would highly recommend it :) https://flyingwithconfidence.com/

JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 11:33

enchantedsquirrelwood · 12/01/2024 11:24

Jersey isn't just a beach holiday, there is loads to do there. Lots of history, castles, nice places to eat, good shopping, walking, cycling, watersports (right in front of the hotel you've booked) and a parkrun! Your DP would find plenty to do that doesn't involve the beach. I don't like beach holidays either and am bored after 10 minutes on a beach.

I mentioned the zoo, museums, etc but he's not keen. Perhaps after we go in the summer I'll be able to lure him. But he's run down from two holidays last year somewhat out of his control (and as mentioned, he hates flying).

I am planning one day at the zoo though. If the weather is bad then I suppose we'll need to check out an indoor pool or perhaps make it a museum and shops day. We're only going for 3 nights so I will need to do research and put together a daily planner before we go.

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JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 11:27

Houseplanter · 12/01/2024 11:06

I did Bham to Jersey on Blue Island last year, as a nervous flyer , first time in years.

It was probably the best flight I've ever had.

It was very well organised on and off, very little waiting around, the staff were very friendly (very chatty pilot who was also v funny)

No turbulence at all.

Jersey airport has the new scanners (no fluid restrictions) so coming back even easier

That's lovely to hear.
I suppose with a smaller airport and plane it will be easier to get assistance as well. I think my DD will be fine, but the only real concern is the sounds on the plane. She has ear defenders, but I think I will invest in a pair with better soundproofing in case the flight is very loud.
Otherwise, I'm also thinking a portable dvd player and peppa pig disk will work on the journey. She would usually play on her tablet when travelling in a car or train, but since there's no wifi I don't think that's a good idea as she generally favors the games which require some kind of internet access (or youtube kids!).

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enchantedsquirrelwood · 12/01/2024 11:24

Jersey isn't just a beach holiday, there is loads to do there. Lots of history, castles, nice places to eat, good shopping, walking, cycling, watersports (right in front of the hotel you've booked) and a parkrun! Your DP would find plenty to do that doesn't involve the beach. I don't like beach holidays either and am bored after 10 minutes on a beach.

JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 11:23

amylou8 · 12/01/2024 11:06

Heathrow is a huge busy airport, I've not flown from Exeter but the regionals I have used have been a far calmer experience. Add to the extra travel and I think Exeter would be far more sensible.
I've been on a 777 and had several turbulence, and been on small props with nothing at all. It's a quick hop you're doing and just luck if it's bumpy at all. Watch a few YouTube videos, I recommend Mentour Pilot, about turbulence and how it's nothing to worry about.

Thanks, I'll check that out!

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JennyBeanR · 12/01/2024 11:21

Wow thank you for all of the replies! I have downloaded a couple of audiobooks about flying anxiety, and I have just watched a youtube video on a blue islands turboprop to jersey. I think I am inclined to agree that flying from London is not the way to handle this.

As it's such a short flight, it does seem silly to add 3+ hours travelling to it. Plus, even though my DD likes the car, I'm not sure how much she'd enjoy over 3 hours. The longest she's done is about 1.5 hours to Bristol. I think I'd have to stop loads, and bring lots of food...

To answer a PP about having support. I am taking DD on my own. We are having a family holiday to the Netherlands next month (on Eurostar). My DP is also afraid of flying and recently had a bad experience taking his son to Rome, so I don't think he'd be very helpful with the flight anxiety. Also, he's not keen on beach holidays, whereas me and DD love the beach. I'm hoping to conquer my flight anxiety, and be able to take DD to Spain or Greece next year. I think (hope) flying to Jersey can give me the boost I need to get back into it.

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idontlikealdi · 12/01/2024 11:08

When I have been to jersey and guernsey from LGW they have been turbo prop planes, they are noisy and they do feel the turbulence. Not to scare you op but just so you are aware.

However, there may be no turbulence at all.

amylou8 · 12/01/2024 11:06

Heathrow is a huge busy airport, I've not flown from Exeter but the regionals I have used have been a far calmer experience. Add to the extra travel and I think Exeter would be far more sensible.
I've been on a 777 and had several turbulence, and been on small props with nothing at all. It's a quick hop you're doing and just luck if it's bumpy at all. Watch a few YouTube videos, I recommend Mentour Pilot, about turbulence and how it's nothing to worry about.

Houseplanter · 12/01/2024 11:06

I did Bham to Jersey on Blue Island last year, as a nervous flyer , first time in years.

It was probably the best flight I've ever had.

It was very well organised on and off, very little waiting around, the staff were very friendly (very chatty pilot who was also v funny)

No turbulence at all.

Jersey airport has the new scanners (no fluid restrictions) so coming back even easier

enchantedsquirrelwood · 12/01/2024 11:03

FasterFood · 12/01/2024 11:01

Is there a ferry boat instead ?

Yes but you have to go from Poole or Portsmouth, which are a long way from Exeter, they take a minimum of 4 hours and are not very reliable anyway. And if the Channel is rough...

We used to go by ferry until we discovered how easy it was to fly from Southampton and use the buses once there.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 12/01/2024 11:02

Oh I forgot to say, the Blue Islands planes have about 19 rows of seats with 4 seats each, so they are bigger than you think they are.

FasterFood · 12/01/2024 11:01

Is there a ferry boat instead ?

Wetweatherandmud · 12/01/2024 11:00

The only time I didn't have a panic attack was when I flew in a 40 seater in the Caribbean. I hope this helps.

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