Sacked for using 'N' word

It was a descriptive, non misogynistic word long before - and for longer - than it has held misogynist connotations. Vagina comes from ‘sword sheath’ - I’d much rather use cunt than have my bits named for their purpose to men. Germaine Greer did an interesting piece on the BBC about it as part of balderdash & piffle.

perhaps the reason it remains so offensive is actually because (men?) want to try and minimise its power by attaching a notion of shame.

This. The actual word is so deeply offensive that everyone avoids using it.

Why? Are you suggesting colour has something to do with being racist or offensive? It doesn't. I have met as many racist black or brown people as white (more, come to think of it).

Why would you suppose that? Perhaps he wanted to be clear, to say what was being said in his branch? It does not matter what colour the people are if they are being offensive.

Why just white people? If the word is offensive it is always offensive whatever the colour of the speaker's skin. Bit racist to think other than that, surely?
I find racists unpleasant but referring to a word in context, rather than going round the houses with silly euphemism when precision is needed, is not racist. Man should not have been sacked and it seems the tribunal agrees.

He didn't even apply it to work he just asked how he should react when people do it in rap music

"At a relevant point during one of the race education training sessions, which
was discussing intent vs effect, the claimant asked how he should handle a
situation where he heard someone from an ethnic minority use a word that might
be considered offensive if used by someone not within that minority. The
claimant was thinking partly about rap music. When he did not get an immediate
response from the trainer, he added, ‘The most common example being use of
the N word in the black community’. Unfortunately the claimant used the full word
rather than the abbreviation."

The question is not in good faith imo

The bloke who got sacked shouldn't have used the word, there was no need to. He could have asked the question without using it. I think he might have been spoiling for a fight. The trainer should not be training if she had to take 5 days off after hearing the word - utterly pathetic.

Sorry but he knew full well what he was doing by asking 'What if my black co workers or black customer's say n**ger' - let's not all pretend to be dense.

He knew and you know full well there was absolutely no need to use that word in it's entirety and he/you/other people using 'whataboutism' here to make it seem like a white person saying the N word is okay is weird. Why does he/you want to say it so bad? I can put my bets on it that no part of the standard diversity and inclusion training that any finance company or bank does would have gone into that much depth that he felt so compelled to make that statement and use that word. The trainer was probably in shock because he was negging her and dropped the N word out of nowhere in a professional setting.

I think some women do use it in an attempt to reclaim it, but it's not worked.
It's a term of horrific misogynistic abuse.

I use it most days to be honest.

I did. And it is.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/9/2010-10-01#:~:text=(a)a%20reference%20to%20a,of%20the%20same%20racial%20group.

That's the attitude that will stop conversation ignorance.

Boondocks 😂😂😂

Context matters, stop being so stupid. If that word is so offensive why use it so much then. The would c%*t is offensive but you don't see women using it everyday.

But they aren’t the same word.

N (hard R) is a racist slur
N (soft A) is an evolution that approximately equates to ‘mate’ but with a race (not racist) element to it.

Do your aforementioned racists want to start using the word to refer to their mates? I don’t think so.

So they actually want the right to use N (hard R) - which is, as discussed, a racial slur.

I’m totally ok with them being told this is entirely inappropriate. Is it going to make them more racist? Maybe, but those kinds of people will find any old excuse so whatever.

You want a picture of my family and yes I know it's used in schools. I removed my daughter because of the racism she was getting it was very upsetting. The school did deal with the children but the damage was done. I removed her from the school and homeschooled.

So I'm sitting here watching an episode of 'Ghost' on Netflix where every black person is calling the other this word, either in a friendly or deeply unfriendly way. It happens in every episode for about five seasons of the show. Should I be clutching my pearls and taking time off work? The actors are obviously not offended, possibly.

Carl Borg-Neal also had this to say, which made me roll my eyes a lot:

"I feel very discriminated against,” he said. “I often wonder if I wasn’t a white middle-aged male would I have had to go through everything I went through. There is no way of telling. But when I talk to my friends – and as you can imagine a good many are white, middle-aged and male – we all agree that is the worst thing you can be right now. You are bottom of everything.”

What an idiot.

Unbelievable that the trainer had to take five days of work, they were so upset. Pathetic.

No, what I am saying is it's not heard of in this country. I have never heard black people use it. I can't speak for Americans.

How many young black people do you know? Because everyone at school said it.

This!!

If you go back and read that conversation you'll find I wasn't talking about the tribunal. Someone asked if I thought it should be illegal. I said no but its reasonable you'd lose your job.

The bloke was found to have been discriminated against owing to his disability, not because what he said was alright. The tribunal thought what he said amounted to misconduct, just not gross misconduct

Don’t be so ridiculous. No sane person can genuinely believe it was a sackable offence. The tribunal clearly didn’t.

Always so refreshing to hear from those who've clearly read the judgement rather than just leaping to their keyboards to fling accusations based on little but their own biases

With something as serious as racism and accusations of the same you'd think folk would want to know the facts, but sadly not in some cases

This. Just no need to use the full word? Fully understand his reason for wanting to explore how to manage and resolve situations , he just doesn’t need to use the word itself. Zero reason to use it 🤦🏻‍♀️