Sacked for using 'N' word

I agree that nobody should be using the N word. It is extremely offensive.

This reminds me of the story about the people who gained all that publicity for displaying a certain type of doll in their window. I don't know why, but it does. It's different, obviously but I don't like the idea that racism is on the increase in the uk. We don't want to become like America. Let's remember that.

Gosh I could hear the tiny violins playing in my head as I read this 😂

It’s pretty hefty

If she's that offended by that kind of language, maybe anti-racism training isn't the job for her. Those types of words must come up in the course of her job.

If you read the story he only used the term when the trainer claimed not to understand his original question (which did not use the term). And then he immediately apologised. So it doesn't sound like he was looking for an excuse to say it. If he was he would have included it in his original question.

He was awarded £500,000. That's a massive payout from a bank!

Also, a separate point but in my view no-one should be using the N word. The end.

I don't know the case but I can assure you noone has ever been awarded half a million quid for wrongful dismissal. Certainly not a bank branch employee. And that claim would have to go to county court anyway, not the tribunal .

Honest thoughts? He probably didn’t need to say the full word but seriously, a trainer delivering a course on racism to be so traumatised upon hearing it that they had to take a week of work is just insane. I’d say they were both unsuitable for the role they were employed in

It was apparently disability discrimination - he blamed his dyslexia for ‘inadvertently’ using the word in full.

He told The Telegraph: 'I often wonder if I wasn't a white middle-aged male would I have had to go through everything I went through. There is no way of telling. You are bottom of everything.'

What a f c*

Having said that I do suspect the guy is a total nob.
a) because anyone with an ounce of common sense would have not used the word and said 'n word' in that situation.
b) anyone who uses the 'woe is me I'm a middle aged white male and being discriminated against' argument generally is.

It was a strange choice for a white man to use it with presumably a black trainer?

You said "I am close to this story but afraid to say how" but you have only just heard about it? Can you explain what you mean by "close to this story"?

I think it goes to show that people are extremely offended by the word and for very good reason. It's offensive in its connotations and history and what it meant throughout history. It can't be just erased. We have to be sensitive about it. Really we do.

Yes he was dyslexic , plus he had tried to ask the question without using the word . He had an unblemished record and it was in a training session . Seems completely out of proportion.

At work: See all - Hear all - say Fuck all. Go home .

I don’t have a Torygraph subscription but the headline “White middle-aged men are ‘bottom of everything’ says bank worker sacked over N word” doesn’t sound promising 🙄🙄🙄

The trainer is a melt. The employee is an idiot. Safe space or not, did he really have to say it?

I think judgement should be reserved on the trainer, they may have been black themselves and subjected to all sorts of other racism within the session which is why they took time off (just read some of Nova Reid’s accounts of training to see how pernicious the racism in edi training can be).

However I agree with both that there is never any need for a white person to use the word, but also that given the context, it wouldn’t strike me as gross misconduct either. A clear warning would have saved Lloyds an awful lot of time and money.

@Theunamedcat. Really good point. I would like to know the answer as I am sure the people that work in that bank would too. Maybe it would have been better handled in a more sensitive way from the bank and lessons need to be learned as its embarrassing for the bank to have this sort of publicity

Oh come on, in this context, completely fine. Even the most offended should be able to see this.

That's all he wanted clarification on. So if two black people are using that word in the bank, can they or does the policy apply to everyone? But what if the black people around them are offended, whose side do they take? What about people who are mixed heritage but look white? It starts to get discriminatory.

His colleagues apparently differed with your opinion. You know the ones who actually worked with him .

Fucking bonkers 🤦🏻‍♀️