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Sacked for using 'N' word

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Horrace · 08/01/2024 22:08

I don't know how to copy link sorry but has anyone been following the story of the Lloyd's bank manager who was sacked for asking a relevant question in a so called anti racism training session by his employers but in his question he used the full 'N' word.
His question I believe was how would he be expected to deal with black employees or customers speaking to each other using that word.
The trainer was so offended by the word, she had to take 5 days off work. However, he got sacked.
He has since been awarded £500,00 but no apology from Lloyd's and no job back.
As far as we know, the ridiculous incompetent trainer is still employed.

I am close to this story but afraid to say how.
But will say that I'm losing sleep and furious more and more at this bank.

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Garibalditea · 12/01/2024 12:47

OneTC · 11/01/2024 15:26

And yeah him being white is an issue for me, male not so much. I mean if he wasn't white then it'd be a bit like his example and it'd be a black person saying it to another black person, like on a basketball court or in a rap tune and it wouldn't be racist and would be irrelevant to the whole scenario

Oh so you don't actually have a problem with the word itself, it just depends who's saying it 🤔. No, it doesn't matter whether it ends with an er or an a, the word is plain wrong. Your scenario is just as bad because its black people denigrating themselves. Unreal!

Bex5490 · 12/01/2024 11:23

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Lol - ok Dave l. Use it as much as you like. Just don’t be surprised by the reaction you get. Because as much as you wish it hadn’t, most of society has moved beyond your school of thought…

I’m sorry that the world must be such a frustrating place for you. 🤷🏽‍♀️

GrammarTeacher · 12/01/2024 11:07

The racism justification on this thread is disgusting.

Krampers · 12/01/2024 10:35

So many racists in this thread.
I have managed to never say the N word at work, on a break, whenever in the work place. And I am black. I have literally never heard a black person use the N word at work in any context. I am baffled why people seem to think they do and so that makes it ok to use it once.

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BeckyBloomwood3 · 11/01/2024 21:18

OneTC · 11/01/2024 16:33

On the face of it she sounds like a melt but who knows what else she puts up, other than being there for his outburst she hasn't played much of a part in his downfall

Half a million pounds in compensation, the downfall here isn't his.

I do wonder what exactly she told her bosses though. PP made the point that this might have been the straw that broke the camel's back. If so. Surely she should have cited that. And not just this one guy as the reason for her needing a week off.
Maybe she did. But no action was taken against the others. Or it was just someone at Lloyd's deciding to make an example of Carl.

Either way she's kept pretty quiet. Which isn't wrong. She didn't ask them to fire Carl after all.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 11/01/2024 17:58

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 15:38

Funny that some are like dogs with bones on perceived racism, yet are doubting his dyslexia being a factor. Doesn't a learning need rank highly enough for you? Normally you'd be climbing all over that when trying to be virtuous.

Have a learning disability doesn't excuse what he said. Like I said up thread I have friends with dyslexia and they would never dream saying that word. He is a 58 year old man who grew up with all sorts of propaganda about black people in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

OneTC · 11/01/2024 16:33

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 16:22

I bet you have zero problems with the goady trainer.

On the face of it she sounds like a melt but who knows what else she puts up, other than being there for his outburst she hasn't played much of a part in his downfall

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Bex5490 · 11/01/2024 16:26

Lol you’re not gonna get any sense out of anyone arguing that someone is bottom of the pile because they’re a white man.

Honestly, protect your energy…

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 16:22

OneTC · 11/01/2024 16:19

Yes coming out with a common racist trope when you've just been apparently been cleared of being a racist arsehole was a "mistake" on his part and I wouldn't be commenting or have an opinion without that bit

I bet you have zero problems with the goady trainer.

OneTC · 11/01/2024 16:19

Yes coming out with a common racist trope when you've just been apparently been cleared of being a racist arsehole was a "mistake" on his part and I wouldn't be commenting or have an opinion without that bit

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 16:14

OneTC · 11/01/2024 16:04

shows he was right to feel bottom of the pile

nuff said

Well that was his big mistake. That was just food and drink for you. Enough for you to build your vendetta.
Do better if you're ever on a jury.

OneTC · 11/01/2024 16:04

shows he was right to feel bottom of the pile

nuff said

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OneTC · 11/01/2024 15:55

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 15:50

So as I say, you're doubting it as being a reason but 100 per cent of his being a racist. Thanks for confirming your own bias.

I'm going on the balance of probabilities based on his later proclamation about being uniquely disadvantaged by being white.

And what bias btw?

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 15:50

OneTC · 11/01/2024 15:48

I have a diagnosis for a related LD. If you read the expert opinion at the end of the judgement it's "could have" "probably" "possibly" a reason that he said the word in full.

I can think of another reason

So as I say, you're doubting it as being a reason but 100 per cent of his being a racist. Thanks for confirming your own bias.

Bex5490 · 11/01/2024 15:49

Aren’t mayors expected to make a lot of speeches?

Surely he would’ve noticed his propensity to drop N- bombs during one of the many occasions when he was elected to speak…😂

He should’ve pushed for Tourette’s over dyslexia.

OneTC · 11/01/2024 15:48

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 15:38

Funny that some are like dogs with bones on perceived racism, yet are doubting his dyslexia being a factor. Doesn't a learning need rank highly enough for you? Normally you'd be climbing all over that when trying to be virtuous.

I have a diagnosis for a related LD. If you read the expert opinion at the end of the judgement it's "could have" "probably" "possibly" a reason that he said the word in full.

I can think of another reason

OneTC · 11/01/2024 15:46

Lasegna · 11/01/2024 15:35

Most people know

Just like most people know the replacement term "n-word".

And when I say most people, I mean everyone

Sesameseedless · 11/01/2024 15:38

Funny that some are like dogs with bones on perceived racism, yet are doubting his dyslexia being a factor. Doesn't a learning need rank highly enough for you? Normally you'd be climbing all over that when trying to be virtuous.

Lasegna · 11/01/2024 15:37

And when I say most, I mean everyone.

Again, he should have known that it would come across very badly for him to say it even if it is normalised slang

Lasegna · 11/01/2024 15:35

OneTC · 11/01/2024 14:43

I'm pretty sure that someone who's entire apparent frame of reference of black people is basketball and rap music and whos never heard the phrase "n-word" really gets the nuance between er and* *a

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Most people know

OneTC · 11/01/2024 15:26

And yeah him being white is an issue for me, male not so much. I mean if he wasn't white then it'd be a bit like his example and it'd be a black person saying it to another black person, like on a basketball court or in a rap tune and it wouldn't be racist and would be irrelevant to the whole scenario

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