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"I've never found him attractive"

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starfro · 08/01/2024 09:19

I've seen this both in real life and on here. Women will marry guys they don't find attractive, just because they want someone to support them and their desire for babies.

Then 10 years later they are in an awful sexless marriage, and either splitting or "staying together for the kids".

AIBU to find it totally dishonest and selfish from the women that do this?

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Comedycook · 08/01/2024 10:12

I have a friend who did this.... getting to late thirties and married a very kind dependable man..but she admits she has never found him attractive. It blows my mind to be honest....I couldn't bear to sleep with a man I didn't find attractive. They don't appear unhappy though....she loves him like a brother I think. She has a nice house and children. Conversely I know a woman who is single and childless and it's now to late for her to meet a man and have kids. I'm not sure thats an especially happier scenario

GrumpyMoose · 08/01/2024 10:12

I don't want great sex while my kids are poor. How could I even enjoy sex if my home is about to be repossessed or I have to live in a shitty home? Money is more helpful to the family than oh well at least mum orgasms every night.

JamSandle · 08/01/2024 10:08

I think a lot of people, both men and women, are scared of rejection and so don't go for the people they really want. If I've been deeply attracted to a really gorgeous man I've always assumed he's a player or cheat, perhaps to my detriment.

Nelliemellie · 08/01/2024 10:07

Similar characters also binds people, and common temperaments.

starfro · 08/01/2024 10:04

Having undesirable sex once a week is preferable to putting up with being poor.

But it's not sustainable and invariably leads to huge resentment. There's no way can someone feign excitement for decades. What happens in reality is the disinterested partner stops after a while, and both parties end up hating one another.

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PrincessCharlette · 08/01/2024 10:01

starfro · 08/01/2024 09:33

Men can be just as insecure as women, so will get with someone that shows an interest, even if that interest is quite unenthusiastic.

It mostly ends in disaster.

I'm not sure many men marry out of sense on insecurity. My man certainly didn't. We genuinely married for love. Sure we were very young and rarely left the bedroom but it's stood the test of time. I wish I could put my finger on exactly why but it's just one of those things. We clicked and it's worked. Perhaps it's my flaming red hair.

Worldgonecrazy · 08/01/2024 09:58

Women are sold a lie that looks and attraction are unimportant.

“Women settle. It’s social conditioning. They are frequently told to give ‘nice guys a chance’ and they give years to these apparent ‘nice’ guys who actually are just mediocre.”

This is so true. And whilst the early hormones can blind women to many things, once they wear off and you see your fat icky ugly husband, many women prefer to stay in the marriage for many and sometimes complex reasons.

This is not true for men. The various medical funny stories are evidence that men do not need to find a person or object attractive to enjoy having sex. I’m not even sure men get the ick the way women do?

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2024 09:50

Skidmarink · 08/01/2024 09:26

I had been in love twice with attractive men who treated me like shit and dumped me. So when I was in my 30s and a nice stable man wanted to spend time with me, I didn’t pay too much heed to the fact that he wasn’t very attractive and we weren’t in love.

Honestly you’re very lucky if you meet someone attractive who is also a decent person and wants to commit. Because it really doesn’t happen that often. Most of the women I know either settled or remained single.

So did you actually go along and marry someone you felt ambivalent about?

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2024 09:48

PrincessCharlette · 08/01/2024 09:28

I've seen it too, and with long standing friends, " I want to start a family and I'm looking for somebody to share/carry the cost". Quite why men agree to it I don't know as most seen ambivalent to having kids in the first place. I guess it's what's expected of them but it's a form of abuse, especially when it comes in form of an ultimatum.

So they've actually said "I have no attraction to him, I don't like him but I reckon I can con him into marriage and kids?"

GrumpyMoose · 08/01/2024 09:48

I would say be realistic than settle.

Skidmarink · 08/01/2024 09:48

starfro · 08/01/2024 09:42

There's "mind blowing sex", and even normal fun sex.

But 20 years of gritting your teeth and doing the deed once a week? It sounds awful for both parties.

Having undesirable sex once a week is preferable to putting up with being poor. The fact is, women still get paid less than men, motherhood still vastly reduces women’s earnings, and decent houses in respectable areas cost two salaries. You have to think about your kids as well as yourself - you do it to keep them in a nice house.

FurballFrenzy · 08/01/2024 09:47

Skidmarink · 08/01/2024 09:37

If they look for a stable provider,
funny, kind type AND someone that gets them hot under the collar

These type of men are highly in demand. Only the most attractive and desirable women are going to get them. If you’re not one of those women, you have to settle. Either for someone who’s sexy but not stable, or vice versa someone who’s stable but not sexy. The least attractive women have to settle for someone who is neither!

Nobody has to settle. I’d rather be single than married to a man I wasn’t keen on as a consolation prize.

GrumpyMoose · 08/01/2024 09:46

It might be bad for you but some people have a loe libido or find financial security a bigger turn on. People have different priorities and are willing to put up with different things.
I would give up good sex and good looks for a fat wallet.

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2024 09:45

Skidmarink · 08/01/2024 09:37

If they look for a stable provider,
funny, kind type AND someone that gets them hot under the collar

These type of men are highly in demand. Only the most attractive and desirable women are going to get them. If you’re not one of those women, you have to settle. Either for someone who’s sexy but not stable, or vice versa someone who’s stable but not sexy. The least attractive women have to settle for someone who is neither!

Except attraction isn't one side fits all.
By your logic I should be marked to an ugly dickhead because I'm not pretty or skin enough to be worthy of a decent bloke. In reality I'm married to an average looking guy who works full time, rarely goes out, supports me to have time away, does his share with the kids and house, works full-time, is good to him mom but not too much, and it's great at presents.

GrumpyMoose · 08/01/2024 09:44

Even hot successful women with hot successful men end up cheated on a d heartbroken. Nobody can have the whole package long term.

sickbucket67 · 08/01/2024 09:42

Skidmarink · 08/01/2024 09:37

If they look for a stable provider,
funny, kind type AND someone that gets them hot under the collar

These type of men are highly in demand. Only the most attractive and desirable women are going to get them. If you’re not one of those women, you have to settle. Either for someone who’s sexy but not stable, or vice versa someone who’s stable but not sexy. The least attractive women have to settle for someone who is neither!

Then you make your peace with ending up alone. It’s much better than wasting your time with a dud.

i got one of the above ^ - very pleased I didn’t settle.

also- contrary to your point above, I’m probably not the ‘hottest’ woman out there!

starfro · 08/01/2024 09:42

There's "mind blowing sex", and even normal fun sex.

But 20 years of gritting your teeth and doing the deed once a week? It sounds awful for both parties.

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SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2024 09:41

I think the number of people who genuinely marry a guy they have zero attraction to is very very small. However I think people lose that and look back through smudge coloured glasses. They can't remember the time when they used to think the smile was cute, now it's just contemptuous. That laugh isn't hysterical it's annoying. He's put on weight and lost hair. He's picked up annoying habits or the repetition of habits over 10 years has made them annoying - suddenly leaving dirty socks on the bathroom is something to commit murder over whereas once it was a funny quirk.

Skidmarink · 08/01/2024 09:37

If they look for a stable provider,
funny, kind type AND someone that gets them hot under the collar

These type of men are highly in demand. Only the most attractive and desirable women are going to get them. If you’re not one of those women, you have to settle. Either for someone who’s sexy but not stable, or vice versa someone who’s stable but not sexy. The least attractive women have to settle for someone who is neither!

GrumpyMoose · 08/01/2024 09:33

Have you heard of post nut clarity?
Time gives you perspective. Sometimes we lie to ourselves or don't realise something will matter later because we know we can't have a perfect life with a perfect partner.
People get swept up by all sorts of things and only later see things more clearly. I don't think that's malicious, it's just life and maturity.
Also so what if you were physically attracted before? People lose their looks literally (aging, weight, illness, hairloss..) or metaphorically (ugly irritating personality..).
In the end, whether you started with attraction or not doesn't matter if it's over it's over.

And why didn't the other partner pick up on no attraction? Both deceived themselves.

starfro · 08/01/2024 09:33

PrincessCharlette · 08/01/2024 09:28

I've seen it too, and with long standing friends, " I want to start a family and I'm looking for somebody to share/carry the cost". Quite why men agree to it I don't know as most seen ambivalent to having kids in the first place. I guess it's what's expected of them but it's a form of abuse, especially when it comes in form of an ultimatum.

Men can be just as insecure as women, so will get with someone that shows an interest, even if that interest is quite unenthusiastic.

It mostly ends in disaster.

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SallyWD · 08/01/2024 09:33

I've never heard anyone say this. I'm sure it happens sometimes but I don't feel it's really common.

GingerScallop · 08/01/2024 09:32

To be fair, marrying for love and love only is a fairly new concept and is not universal. There are several reasons people marry. If you've never been in their shoes you cannot understand and there is no reason to criticise them. Others marry for companionship and it works for them and they are contented. Equally some marry for love then it goes tits up. Life is strange. It has zillions of mixes when it comes to partnerships with zillions of possible outcomes. Life is nor black and white for many. If you are one of those who have been absolutely in love with your mate since you where 16 and have been together for 55 mind blowing years with mind blowing sex then thank your lucky stars.

sickbucket67 · 08/01/2024 09:32

you’re looking at this all wrong.

Women settle. It’s social conditioning. They are frequently told to give ‘nice guys a chance’ and they give years to these apparent ‘nice’ guys who actually are just mediocre.

If they look for a stable provider,
funny, kind type AND someone that gets them hot under the collar- there is quite often baying harpies telling them they are being too picky and they will end up alone. A thread like this pops up weekly with someone expressing faux concern for their ‘picky’ friend ending up alone.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 08/01/2024 09:32

If you are unattractive to many men and desperate for kids I can see why it would be a valid choice. I couldn't have sex with someone I didn't fancy though, I would rather use a sperm donor if I wanted kids that much.