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Woman's weird behaviour at duck pond?

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QT3point14 · 29/12/2023 20:34

Aibu to find this woman weird?

Dh and I took the kids to our local park today. The park has a little pond with some ducks and swans and we walked down to the water as our kids wanted to see the birds.
At this pond, there was another family consisting of a Mum, Dad, and two young children. This family had brought some bread to feed the ducks. Their kids seemed to be loving it and were giggling away, the animals were loving it and our kids were loving watching it.

A random woman walks by with a toddler. She stops and passive aggressively tells her child using a very loud voice, so the other family can hear her that you shouldn't feed the ducks as it's not allowed. The other family ignored her and continued with what they were doing.

The random woman then took her child over to a rusty, dirty old sign and very loudly read it out to her child. The sign states not to feed the ducks as it can attract vermin. Again the family ignored her. She read the sign very loudly again! She then rants that they are feeding the ducks white bread and this is so super harmful. This behaviour went on for a good 5 minutes with the other family continuing to ignore her.

At this point I'm thinking wtf is she trying to achieve here? Either have the balls to approach the family and share your concerns or mind your own business. What on earth was she hoping to achieve by passive aggressively randting in the background? The park was pretty busy and loads of people were staring at this poor family that just wanted to enjoy some time together.

Is it just me or is this a bit bonkers?

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WhatNoRaisins · 01/01/2024 08:26

Am I the only one who when someone pulls this passive aggressive shit finds it makes me want to continue whatever behaviour is being crapped on about? If possible makes me want to behave even worse?

Seriously if you really want to change people's behaviour grow up and talk to them directly. This approach will do nothing for me except make me think you're a bit of a twat.

PurpleSilverPetal · 01/01/2024 06:01

RSPB say bread in moderation is fine.

Woman's weird behaviour at duck pond?
Justfinking · 01/01/2024 05:08

Yeah, I'm with random woman, hopefully the family took the hint!

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/01/2024 05:06

If bread swelled in ducks stomachs and killed them, there'd be dead ducks all over the country, we'd have wiped out the duck population by now and clearly, that hasn't happened and this is a myth.

There is no doubt that cheap white bread or even artisan wholemeal seeded whatever is not an ideal diet for birds... but spreading total myth and fantasy is really not helpful.

Pinkyandthebrain96 · 01/01/2024 05:05

QT3point14 · 30/12/2023 18:37

To all those that just joined and didn't read the fucking thread...

It's not illegal to feed bread to ducks, nor is it going to harm them! Plenty of links and posts throughout this post to clarify this if you have any confusion.

It is incredibly harmful. I have kept ducks for a number of years and no duck keeper would ever entertain giving their ducks bread .Either layers pellets or mash will grit .

Pinkyandthebrain96 · 01/01/2024 05:02

I keep ducks and would never ever give them bread .It swells in their stomach and will kill them. Mine have layers mash with grit mixed in .I haven't read all the thread but I am team random woman. Infact I would have gone to the family and told them the harm bread can do .In a nice way of course .

Snuggleyou · 31/12/2023 19:14

This level of passive aggression is annoying as hell. Saying that she’s not wrong about bread being harmful, I used to take my daughter when she was little but now we are more informed of the dangers. Why on earth would anyone encourage their little ones to harm wildlife, that’s not an act of kindness.

pineapplesundae · 31/12/2023 08:13

Why not give them proper food?

PurpleFlower1983 · 31/12/2023 07:47

I watched something about ducks and bread, it said that while bread is not great, many people stopped feeding altogether after bread being bad became widely known resulting in a lot of animals starving.

pineapplesundae · 31/12/2023 07:43

A duck developed gout from eating bread and another, at a different pond, lost the ability to fly. Knock off the bread and spread the word.

Genericusername3 · 31/12/2023 00:08

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/12/2023 23:32

When OP tries to be clever but fails miserably. Wrong but can't admit it. Quoting one post when the majority and those qualified tell you otherwise shows lack of intelligence.
She's waved and signed off as she didn't like people not agreeing with her. 👋 OP.

Totally agree and so passive aggressive with the majority of her responses too (those I’ve seen anyway).

Think she just wanted everyone to agree that the random woman was rude and obnoxious.

The irony being that what OP has done is very much similar to what she initially complained about in her thread 🙄

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 30/12/2023 23:32

When OP tries to be clever but fails miserably. Wrong but can't admit it. Quoting one post when the majority and those qualified tell you otherwise shows lack of intelligence.
She's waved and signed off as she didn't like people not agreeing with her. 👋 OP.

pineapplesundae · 30/12/2023 23:06

You should have joined her! The family should be mindful of the hazard they posed to the ducks and everything else.

QT3point14 · 30/12/2023 21:26

Carpedimum · 30/12/2023 20:37

There are circumstances where feeding of waterfowl or indeed any birds, could be illegal. Within 13km of many airports and airfields, restrictions are in place to control the numbers of certain species so that the risk of a birdstrike is not increased. If there are signs saying not to feed birds, it is very wise to pay heed, because to feed birds would be a breach of the Air Navigation Order and a criminal offence with a hefty fine. Birdstrikes are a very real threat to air safety.

Who phoned the duck police? 🤣

Please kindly explain where on earth in this post I mentioned my local park being remotely close to an airport?

If this was the case I'm sure the signs would read 'do not feed the ducks as it's illegal" instead of "don't feed the ducks as it attracts vermin"

I'm done with this post now 👋

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QT3point14 · 30/12/2023 21:22

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 20:42

Let me just explain something to you OP as an ecologist yes one of those people who are qualified to know what they are talking about unlike yourself.

Feeding ducks bread is bad, full stop.

Numerous reasons, Let me educate you on to why you are 100% incorrect.
1st feeding ducks bread (old or moldy bread) can cause aspergillosis a fatal lung infection.
2nd feeding ducks and ducklings bread affects their learned behaviour especially that of fear of humans and foraging techniques that later kill them.
3rd excess bread from people like yourself feeding them results in duck malnutrition affecting development and growth. Particularly with ducklings as they go for the easiest option (least resistance and energy loss) just eating bread.
4th feeding like this causes over crowding of breeding areas , leading to over aggression with territorial disputes of wild fowl.
5th Feeding bread to ducks attracts rats that bring disease in their urine "leptospirosis" that affects adults and children. Rats also attracted by bread and human waste foods results in the destruction of other wildlife from predation of rats including the destruction of endangered water voles they prey upon.
6th Bread sinks to the bottom of ponds causing eutrophication, where the rapid spread of toxic algae removes vital oxygen from the water body killing wildlife and aquatic life, it can also lead to toxic algae blooms that harm people and pets.

I could go on all night but just to say, I did read the fucking thread and your wrong very wrong.

You obviously didn't because I didn't feed any birds 😂

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Sometimeswinning · 30/12/2023 21:12

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 21:00

One is covered under Section 9 of Schedule 5 of the Countryside and Wildlife Act for good reason the other is not.

One predates the other, one is endangered the other is certainly not.

You obviously think your being clever, so I`ll leave it here. As arguing with stupid tends to make you so 😊

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Well the only rat on my river is the water rat (vole) The biggest issue is sewage waste. That is a problem for a natural habitat. Not a few pieces of bread.

Don’t worry about sounding stupid. You did the second you announced you were an ecologist and threw the rat population under the bus!

Rosiiee · 30/12/2023 21:12

I’m team family too OP! Can’t believe the replies! There’s always people feeding ducks at our local park and it attracts other birds too. All the kids love it and there’s no signs that say not to do it.

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 21:00

Sometimeswinning · 30/12/2023 20:56

I doubt rats are part of a food chain. More a web. Natural or not natural. They have just as much right.

Do you consider a water Vole akin to a rat?

One is covered under Section 9 of Schedule 5 of the Countryside and Wildlife Act for good reason the other is not.

One predates the other, one is endangered the other is certainly not.

You obviously think your being clever, so I`ll leave it here. As arguing with stupid tends to make you so 😊

Sometimeswinning · 30/12/2023 20:56

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 20:53

Are asking me if rats are part of an natural eco system where by they fit neatly into a food chain and their reproduction levels are maintained in a stable manner or are you actually asking me if rats attracted by anthropogenic activities are unnaturally supported with an anthropogenic biome, which is not good for wildfowl?

I doubt rats are part of a food chain. More a web. Natural or not natural. They have just as much right.

Do you consider a water Vole akin to a rat?

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 20:53

Sometimeswinning · 30/12/2023 20:48

Are rats not part of an eco system??

Are asking me if rats are part of an natural eco system where by they fit neatly into a food chain and their reproduction levels are maintained in a stable manner or are you actually asking me if rats attracted by anthropogenic activities are unnaturally supported with an anthropogenic biome, which is not good for wildfowl?

TerfTalking · 30/12/2023 20:48

I’ve heard peas defrosted are enjoyed by ducks, and preferable to bread. Perhaps peas should be the way forward.

Sometimeswinning · 30/12/2023 20:48

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 20:42

Let me just explain something to you OP as an ecologist yes one of those people who are qualified to know what they are talking about unlike yourself.

Feeding ducks bread is bad, full stop.

Numerous reasons, Let me educate you on to why you are 100% incorrect.
1st feeding ducks bread (old or moldy bread) can cause aspergillosis a fatal lung infection.
2nd feeding ducks and ducklings bread affects their learned behaviour especially that of fear of humans and foraging techniques that later kill them.
3rd excess bread from people like yourself feeding them results in duck malnutrition affecting development and growth. Particularly with ducklings as they go for the easiest option (least resistance and energy loss) just eating bread.
4th feeding like this causes over crowding of breeding areas , leading to over aggression with territorial disputes of wild fowl.
5th Feeding bread to ducks attracts rats that bring disease in their urine "leptospirosis" that affects adults and children. Rats also attracted by bread and human waste foods results in the destruction of other wildlife from predation of rats including the destruction of endangered water voles they prey upon.
6th Bread sinks to the bottom of ponds causing eutrophication, where the rapid spread of toxic algae removes vital oxygen from the water body killing wildlife and aquatic life, it can also lead to toxic algae blooms that harm people and pets.

I could go on all night but just to say, I did read the fucking thread and your wrong very wrong.

Are rats not part of an eco system??

Sometimeswinning · 30/12/2023 20:46

Vermin have just as much right to be fed as swans! The bread thing was posted on social media and people went mad.

However, I have no issue with passive aggressive people. It’s the best aggression!

orchiddottyback · 30/12/2023 20:42

QT3point14 · 30/12/2023 18:37

To all those that just joined and didn't read the fucking thread...

It's not illegal to feed bread to ducks, nor is it going to harm them! Plenty of links and posts throughout this post to clarify this if you have any confusion.

Let me just explain something to you OP as an ecologist yes one of those people who are qualified to know what they are talking about unlike yourself.

Feeding ducks bread is bad, full stop.

Numerous reasons, Let me educate you on to why you are 100% incorrect.
1st feeding ducks bread (old or moldy bread) can cause aspergillosis a fatal lung infection.
2nd feeding ducks and ducklings bread affects their learned behaviour especially that of fear of humans and foraging techniques that later kill them.
3rd excess bread from people like yourself feeding them results in duck malnutrition affecting development and growth. Particularly with ducklings as they go for the easiest option (least resistance and energy loss) just eating bread.
4th feeding like this causes over crowding of breeding areas , leading to over aggression with territorial disputes of wild fowl.
5th Feeding bread to ducks attracts rats that bring disease in their urine "leptospirosis" that affects adults and children. Rats also attracted by bread and human waste foods results in the destruction of other wildlife from predation of rats including the destruction of endangered water voles they prey upon.
6th Bread sinks to the bottom of ponds causing eutrophication, where the rapid spread of toxic algae removes vital oxygen from the water body killing wildlife and aquatic life, it can also lead to toxic algae blooms that harm people and pets.

I could go on all night but just to say, I did read the fucking thread and your wrong very wrong.

Carpedimum · 30/12/2023 20:37

There are circumstances where feeding of waterfowl or indeed any birds, could be illegal. Within 13km of many airports and airfields, restrictions are in place to control the numbers of certain species so that the risk of a birdstrike is not increased. If there are signs saying not to feed birds, it is very wise to pay heed, because to feed birds would be a breach of the Air Navigation Order and a criminal offence with a hefty fine. Birdstrikes are a very real threat to air safety.