Men using Mumsnet

Don't need to jmagine it, just look back on the many threads on it.

(I've never had children and at 51, that's unlikely to change...)

I mean it literally happens all the time. All the time. With all the beats of but its MUMsnet.

I find it baffling that you think this doesn't happen

Can you imagine if someone posted to complain about the fact that there's women on here who aren't Mums?! Despite it being called 'Mumsnet' there'd be uproar

And of SAHDs apparently.

It's like living back in the 1950s with some posters.

These days the Scouts (aka, Boy Scouts in days of old) allow girls in, yet Girl Guides don’t allow boys.

Leaving aside the trans issue for the time being. I have been a guide leader and a scout leader. I have had plenty of parents (pre the change in scouts) asking if their daughters could attend.

I never once, not once, had a parent who asked if a boy could attend Guides.

Because its seen as socially okay for a girl to do something more "masculine" but funnily enough it wasn't seen as okay for boys to rush to be more "feminine"

That's why men weren't whingeing. Because they saw those activities as something they wouldn't want their sons to do.

Of course now with TRAs your assertion that men aren't whining about not being able to join women's groups is frankly laughable.

I have no issue with men on MN. But let's not pretend that parents not wanting boy to join Guides is somehow due to some superiority of men's behaviour rather than a result of patriarchal bullshit about "womens" activities

There’s useful input by men on MN every day - most male posters don’t point out they’re a man unless it’s relevant (but I’ve got a good idea who is and who isn’t from their previous posts).

Just because you can’t be bothered to find said input doesn’t mean it’s not true, and I doubt you’d be willing to accept it either way as it’d be contrary to your argument.

I’m a man, and I post / interact on MN because it’s a great resource as a parent.
Like it or not, there are certain topics in life where balanced input from a particular gender is useful - such as when an ‘all men are arseholes’ thread pops up for the fifth time that week.
All men aren’t arseholes, and I’ll have my say to that effect.

Some of the comments on this thread are ridiculous - MNHQ has frequently let it be known that men are welcome here.

These days the Scouts (aka, Boy Scouts in days of old) allow girls in, yet Girl Guides don’t allow boys.
Do you see all men whinging about that? No, we just get on with our lives - as posters complaining about men being present on MN need to.

The world is a better place when we all show a little kindness and acceptance.

Apparently you are completely unaware of PigletJohns existence on MN....

This conversation is ridiculous. The dads I know are all great parents and are more than capable to contribute valuably to these forums.

Clearly there are some who aren't but that can just as easily be said about all posters not just men.

Most posters here are women, but not all - the only problematic ones are those who make a big deal about being a man as if that gives what they say more importance.

And given that most posters here are women, I've often suspected some of the really obvious 'Man here' windup merchants/trolls are women anyway, just pushing the buttons of MNetters who get annoyed about it.

Trolls gonna troll no matter what sex they are.

I'm happy to recant, simply post a link to any contribution yourself or any male has made that proved enlightening to the mothers present.

Mumsnetters are not your personal assistants. You're just as capable of finding posts like that as anyone else.

So you're ok with gay male parents and single male parents accessing parenting advice/relationship advice/advice on their children if they have SEND for example, or any other of the vastly diverse topics on MN, just not men who are part of a couple?

Is this because you still see parenting as women's work if they have a woman in their lives to do it?

But as said earlier - I'm happy to recant, simply post a link to any contribution yourself or any male has made that proved enlightening to the mothers present.

You're not always going to know, are you? Some threads are about things like periods, menopause, childbirth, breastfeeding, so I would probably query a man speaking up then, especially if he starts with "man here" - but if it's about a child being bullied at school or a TV programme or an unidentified plant in the garden or the family pet behaving oddly or something, then a poster's sex isn't that relevant, and as it's an anonymous forum with millions of users, it's quite likely thst you've read some posts by men, thought, fair point, and moved on, without realising they're a man.

Most posters here are women, but not all - the only problematic ones are those who make a big deal about being a man as if that gives what they say more importance. Unless it was a thread about prostates or ED, it's not likely to be relevant that they are a man, and posters who mention it tend to get shot down for doing so. If people are contributing okay, then carry on. If they're clearly trolling, report them.

Seriously in italics: If I was sporting a penis and the sign on the door said Mums I'd walk on for sure. Elton or David I'd deem an exception, and one parent fathers of course, there's always exceptions, but as a general rule - no. I wouldn't wander in, pull up a chair, and don a badge saying turbomaxplus. But as said earlier - I'm happy to recant, simply post a link to any contribution yourself or any male has made that proved enlightening to the mothers present.

What might sway me a little is if someone can provide a link to a post where we can all think thank goodness a man was here, we'd never have got there without.

Fascinating way of looking at things.

Can you provide a link where other posters can think thank goodness you were here, we'd never have got there without?

Mumsnet is a massively diverse public forum with an abundance of topics that suit lots of different people, regardless of what they might have between their legs.

I get that allowed to be here, but what I don't get is why they'd want to.

You don't get why a parent might join a parenting forum?

Seriously?

Obviously it's the internet, and all sites crave traffic as dictates their advertising numbers. I get that allowed to be here, but what I don't get is why they'd want to. My DH doesn't have to go down the pub when the girls around, but does out of courtesy as knows hanging about would change the dynamic. And chirping in comments, defensive and over sensitive, as happening now, an unlikely Damascus. What might sway me a little is if someone can provide a link to a post where we can all think thank goodness a man was here, we'd never have got there without.

Yeah, but imagine the relationships board without the male refugees from reddit and slashing the instances of women being called "females"?

If that girls night in was held in a public arena with roughly 8 million other people, then yes, it would be akin to that 🙄

Honestly people are allowed to post where they like. This is the Internet. If you only want to talk to one type of person join a real life group.

Don't be ridiculous 🙄

"Mumsnet. By parents for parents."

I totally agree, every thread I browse men keep popping up like meerkats, it's creepy, akin to spying on a girls night in.

The OP wants them to leave.

Everyone knows that MN permits men to join. No one ever starts a thread saying 'Are men allowed on MN?' We already know, they are! The threads about men on the site are from women who would prefer it if they weren't, is all. Like the threads complaining about smelly dogs in cafés, on people with BO on the train. They know they're 'allowed to' be there, but they dislike it nonetheless.

Completely agree.

Mumsnet has a dadsnet section, which implies that the powers that be are aware of and have no issue with men using the site.
Therefore it is not a single sex space and shouldn't be policed as such. IMO.