Men using Mumsnet

I read it differently and thought he was talking specifically about the OP, who basically shit and ran.

Yes because nothing screams 'not at all bothered' like immediately calling someone an odious cunt who shouldn't create because they don't share your view 🤔🙄

Funny to question the intelligence of @LeonieSN93 when you evidently lack the intellect to word any form of reasonable rebuttal, or offer a different way of looking at the matter. (Like other repliers did). Nothing screams dim witted like just yelling CUNT at anyone you disagree with.

We're not missing out on much from being spared your offspring methinks.

@VanityDiesHard "I'm female and I agree with him TBH. The whole idea of a 'safe space' is pretty ludicrous anyway, and even if it wasn't, women are no 'safer' or less offensive than men."

I wasn't talking about whether or not Mumsnet is a safe space. I was being amused at a man describing women discussing the concept as "trolling". 🤣

I have no problem with men being on Mumsnet and in fact in many ways I think it's a good thing: it exposes them to the realities of women's lives and their opinions and the challenges they face in an unfiltered way. I also think in theory it should be helpful to men who want to learn about parenting.

Nor do I believe Mumsnet is designed to be a "safe space". AIBU is often anything but. It's a debate forum and you have to take the rough with the smooth.

I do find it irritating when a certain type of man tips up as if his arrival on the thread signals the arrival of the cavalry. Such posts are usually signalled by the announcement "Man here". But you can usually ignore this fairly easily.

In reality there is never going to be more than a minority of men on here. Just tolerate them as long as they are not dicks and crack on.

There have always been people without children on MN. Some who aren’t at the stage where they’re thinking about whether to have them or not, some who don’t want them, some who desperately want them and are having fertility treatments, some who couldn’t have them but wanted to. They found MN and liked it so they stayed. There really aren’t many female dominated sites out there.

The child-free section is new.

Any grown adult who thinks a public internet forum is a safe space, is dim imo 🤷‍♂️

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I think it’s a bit naive to consider any online space made up of anonymous users a safe space.

I don’t really have strong feelings either way on men using mumsnet, but I do think it’s one of the meanest sites on the internet so it’s never felt safe to me!

That's funny. I tend to find that men's opinions are absolutely everywhere, front and centre. I find it refreshing to go somewhere that they aren't.

I imagine because kids are part of everyone's life in one way or another?

It's not that hard to fathom.

Good lord, get over yourself really. The tone of your sexism is evident all the way through your post.
It’s an online anonymous forum not a changing room. 🙄 If you don’t like it, ignore and read on. MN will always be predominantly female based. We’re not at risk of a male takeover. It’s good that men can get perspective and advice from reading through threads if it benefits the females in their lives. What exactly is it about men having access to Mumsnet that you’re so dead against? You’ve not given any context or reason to your post other than just to whinge for the sake of it. Anyone posting offensive comments, derailing threads or breaking MN guidelines gets their comments removed anyway. Women are guilty of this every single day.

was literally populated almost exclusively by women until relatively recently.

Untrue. I've been on here donkeys years and there have always been quite a few male posters.

I don't see as many old fashioned misogynists lecturing or 'just asking questions' on the feminism board as there were in the past.

Why do you think it’s alright to call someone dim? Whether you agree with it or not, whether she’s right or not, it’s hardly that mind blowing a notion to say that, in the main, women find safety with other women. That’s clearly what she meant.

Of course it’s a funny thing to say about a site like MN because there are so many caustic wankers on here. As your post highlighted very well.

OP, I do agree with you. The site is very obviously for women. That same obviousness also extends to it being a site about childrearing. There’ll always be those people that insist on occupying - nay, commandeering - spaces that really aren’t for them though. I take their irrelevant responses on female/mothering matters with a hefty pinch of salt so I’d say you ought to do the same. Take what you need from here and move along with real life.

Especially if their DWs ever visit the LTB Relationship Forum

Have to say I agree with @LeonieSN93 i cannot understand why child free people would come to a forum entitled MUMS-net and bitch about kids!

Yabu

I don’t even know where to start with unpacking that.

Why do you think that what I said = men are terrible? Do you think the gender pay gap is anti men too? Have you looked at your attitude to women? I’m assuming you’re female. There’s a lot on internalised misogyny there.

Some of those men are going to be single dads due to loss or break up and are looking for advice.

And the internet is in no way a 'safe space'.

YABU.

I do get what you're saying but it doesn't bother Me at all, DH isn't on here but he regularly asks me to share what I'm reading about etc..

Jeezus, it's like a 1970s sitcom! 🙈

YABU.

Despite the name, MN is, and always has been 'By parents, for parents'. And in fact it's open to non parents as well. There are specific boards which make this clear but of course everyone is welcome on any topic provided they post appropriately within talk guidelines.

It's certainly absolutely appropriate for fathers to be present on a parenting site!

What's unusual and good about MN is that it's majority female.

Not at all, I just think your post is lacking in thought and intelligence. It is clear you are not that bright and your post is clearly a reflection of that.

I'm female and I agree with him TBH. The whole idea of a 'safe space' is pretty ludicrous anyway, and even if it wasn't, women are no 'safer' or less offensive than men.