Men using Mumsnet

What a depressing thread

I don't. Which is to an extent, my point. If men want to be on here as any other poster, contributing to discussions as equals, not dominating, keeping their opinions to themselves about things that as men they are not qualified to speak about, rather than this 'as a man, i think youre wrong' business; not pushing MRA agendas; not interrupting discussions where women are talking about issues that effect us, like male violence for example, to inform us about a time a woman behaved badly to them; not heading off with 'from a male perspective' as though they've suddenly been elected spokesperson for their sex; not announcing 'man here' and expecting more attention to their comments because of that; then I'd not be any the wiser.

Only if I can be "grandfathered" in despite posting a lot of nonsense because I've been here virtually forever.

you can't just amend the vote with imaginary numbers just so it backs you up.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of humour or compassion - can you give examples to prove this?

Just think if we had to rate each other's posts, and only those who received over a certain rating after their first X amount of posts or Y of time were allowed to continue as worthy enough...

I've been on countless threads where a poster has said something extremely inspired, insightful or just plain hilarious, and thought, I'm so glad you're on here, because you've educated me, given me a new perspective, or simply made me laugh out loud.

How do you know some of those posters weren't men?

I've been on countless threads where a poster has said something extremely inspired, insightful or just plain hilarious, and thought, I'm so glad you're on here, because you've educated me, given me a new perspective, or simply made me laugh out loud. Never once have I felt this way because the poster announced 'Man here...!'. Partly because I don't subscribe to the view that one individual man can give a 'male perspective', only his own. Partly because I feel a disproportionate amount of my time goes on hearing men talk. In the upper echelons at work, in politics, media, sports, in social groups. So its really great to have a space where I can listen to women for a change.

Only Deathbyfluffy answered eloquently.

So a man then? 🤣🤣🤣

I would like to think that my contributions to threads, and the couple of threads I've started myself, are valuable. However, I tend to stick to a very small area of MN. @Annieawakelate is right that there are lots of places to learn about DIY, but some of the things that I talk about here are pretty niche (e.g. applications to art schools, or the support threads around my DCs' interests and age cohorts).

I have taken to using a gender-neutral name and not mentioning my sex when on other threads, though.

So in response to your comments about the fact you think men have nothing useful to contribute you are now responding that the only poster who "answered eloquently" was in fact a man

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Fuck me you really can't make this shit up

I write with humour and compassion as best can, and not against men per se - I married one. I simply agree - as do 39 per cent of those who voted - with the OP's opening statement. And if discount the male vote who'd be invariably for, then I suspect the result closer to 50/50. Which doesn't warrant the use of caps, bold, and italics, and quoting out of context. All this shouting isn't winning me over. Only Deathbyfluffy answered eloquently. And Piglet John's plumbing advice may be helpful, but lots of dedicated DIY forums.

@Anjea, I hope you didn't suck his thumb after that.

Virtually or otherwise!

Now that definitely sounds like a euphemism 🤣🤣

Piglet.

Leave Piet John out of this. He unblocked my sink. Virtually.

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quite.

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You mean you didn't find the advice to women on how to be a "homely, loving wife and a slut in bed" life changing

Wow, thats such a shock...

Spoiler alert: if anyone is interested apparently sucking his thumb but looking suprised about it will change your sex life forever, I mean surely that's the enlightening sort of advice you have all been after on here...

Not all men on mumsnet are identifiable as such nor do they need to be. You will probably have seen lots of excellent posts from men and not realised they were male.

Everyone has a diverse background which contributes to these posts.

I used advanced search out of curiosity. It didn't take long. There's nothing enlightening.

PigletJohn has said he is a man before but my suspicion is that he is the most advanced AI around who instead of taking over the world and destroying humanity instead chooses to fix our DIY issues one damp house at a time

now, what contributions have youmade that have proved enlightening to the mothers present thus justifying your presence here?

I'd love to see the answer to this, although I have a feeling he or she won't be providing it.

Maybe you should read over your opening post and think about what you mean, particularly by the bit in brackets.

I can't stand gatecrashers but they may not be men and of course men can post on mumsnet. Could do without the interlopers posting made-up relationship scenarios in AIBU just to smuggle in some usually sexual agenda that they wouldn't get away with in Relationships but that posters here in their hundreds take at face value and offer earnest advice. I suspect those to be men but could be wrong.

I'm happy to recant, simply post a link to any contribution yourself or any male has made that proved enlightening to the mothers present.

as previous posters have said, PigletJohn (although I have to confess I don't know whether they've actually said what sex they are!). I don't know what sex many posters are though so I would have no idea which enlightening contributions were by men.

now, what contributions have you made that have proved enlightening to the mothers present thus justifying your presence here?

Blimey, there's been more threads about that than about the weather.

Have you really never seen them?

They make for painful reading and can really open your eyes to the level of unintelligence around.

The amount of posters who have never considered that people without children, might be interested in the majority of topics that aren't about parenting, is astounding.

And you can sometimes blow their minds if you mention they might be TTC or you know....actually related to some children.

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