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AIBU - Ring disappointment...

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Mmmmpavlova · 25/12/2023 00:47

I'm feeling a bit hurt about a situation with my DH, but maybe my expectations are too high.

We've been together years and married nearly a decade. Unfortunately I lost my engagement ring earlier this year. It wasn't an expensive one, but obviously for sentimental reasons I miss it.

We both decided that it would be nice to get a new one, so we went to the jewellers together to pick one out. I was excited, expecting it to be a lovely bonding experience. But during the appointment he was acting completely checked out. He clearly found the whole thing boring, and spent most of the time on his phone. I chose the one as close as possible to my original - simple and well under budget. He couldn't care less what one I picked.

By the end, I was a bit embarrassed and really surprised at his behaviour; it made me feel as though he doesn't really care about the relationship any more.

For me, the point of wearing a ring is the sentiment. I don't want it as just a shiny object, I honestly couldn't care less about that. I want it as a reminder of our love for each other. I want it to be truly from him to me. I explained this after the appointment, and thought he got my point.

The chosen ring needed resizing, so we have been waiting to pick it up. I thought he might redeem himself and present it to me in a nice way (down on one knee, a few nice words and a big bear hug kind of thing); but it's just arrived, and he is hungover and grumpy today and I can see that he has just bunged the bag under the Christmas tree for me to open myself tomorrow.

I really want to avoid this ring being forever associated in my mind with disappointment/semi rejection… so I tried to give him a gentle tip-off this evening that I would like him to give me the ring himself; maybe with some sort of sentiment attached?

Well maybe I didn't explain myself well, but that seemed to send him into even more of a grump, and now he's asleep and I think I'm getting the silent treatment… I really dread the silent treatment.

In my head I know it's a first world problem and we're not newlyweds any more, and maybe I should lower my expectations for having some sort of grand romance, and just get on with life.

But honestly, that makes me so sad. We've always had the most close, loving relationship, and this is making me feel like maybe something has changed. It just hurts a little bit. AIBU to be so disappointed?

OP posts:
RoachFish · 25/12/2023 11:35

I would get serious stage fright if my partner told me to get him a ring and then do a performative gift giving ceremony. It’s not a proposal, he’s already done that. This is just a piece of jewellery.

Also, to all those saying he’s abusive, he’s not giving the op the silent treatment, he’s asleep. Not at all the same thing. If I was approached by all these demands just as I was going to bed I would shut up and sleep too.

Ladyj84 · 25/12/2023 11:05

Oh for goodness sake most men aren't sentimental like us get your ring and wear it lol

GustyFinknottle · 25/12/2023 10:54

There are people who don't attach sentiment to things. I'm one of them. I treasure people and experience and memories but not things. I couldn't get excited by buying an almost identical replacement for something you'd lost. Instead of always seeing his behaviour as wrong and deficient, might it be worth wondering whether you are being unreasonable to expect such a song and dance over it? It's just a bit of metal and some stones like the one you lost. The years you've had together are what, IMO, you should be celebrating.

Carmargo · 25/12/2023 10:15

1983Louise · 25/12/2023 08:20

Keep the ring and trade in your husband, problem solved - Merry Christmas

She'd be more likely to trade him in if he went along with this bended knee re-enactment bullshit.

Don't men get that? I don't think they do.
A acquaintance's of mine's wife was a right cow and - outrageously-asked him not to speak to his own parents for six months as she felt he was 'too close' to them.
Ball-less AND cruel bastard did just that. His mum was seriously ill at the time too. She still shagged his best mate and kicked him out.
Probably lost all respect for him. F* I certainly would.

Though I do appreciate your comment is meant to be light-hearted.

stayathomer · 25/12/2023 10:03

caringcarer
that’s what I was saying too!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 25/12/2023 10:00

caringcarer · 25/12/2023 01:06

There is just no excuse for him spoiling your new ring experience. He sounds like a real grump. I'd refuse to where it until he ups his game. Don't open it unless he gives it to you.

🤭🤣🤣

Birdcar · 25/12/2023 09:57

"I thought he might redeem himself and present it to me in a nice way (down on one knee"

You're expecting too much. Real lift isn't instagram.

That aside, he sounds like a dick. The silent treatment is not an effective adult strategy for achieving anything.

Caterguin · 25/12/2023 09:51

I think you'll get different responses on here, depending on people's personalities. I don't get the fuss; you lost the ring, then you wanted to re enact it, but what's the point? If I were your dh and didn't feel the excitement, I wouldn't be able to pretend just to please you. Not a grown adult.

Dh lost his wedding ring the other year. We haven't bothered to replace it, because it's just an object, when all is said and done.

Ladybrrrd · 25/12/2023 09:51

I find expecting people to react a certain way to anything, and then holding them to it, rarely ends well. That is very unreasonable to me. People can't help how they react or feel about things, and asking them to fake it is very odd.

I think the sentence where you say you feel very guilty and you wanted him to make you feel better is telling. He's not responsible for your feelings.

Well done for listening to advice though. Hope you have a lovely Xmas day OP. Give him a smile and wink when you open the ring.

Oh, and people need to stop throwing around the word abuse when there is zero evidence. That's a very serious word, let's not minimise it.

Calliopespa · 25/12/2023 09:50

LumpyPumpkin · 25/12/2023 01:02

He bought you a ring. You lost it. Now he is expected to buy you another one, act excited about it and re-propose to you? You're being unreasonable.

I understand why you thought it could be a nice romantic experience but what does he actually get out of this? He already (presumably) picked a ring out for you, paid for it and proposed. That is when the romance was due.

Now it's a decade on. You have lost the gift he gave you and you expect him to be excited about buying you another ring.

Did you get him an engagement gift? Would you get him another if he lost the first?

If, as you say, he's usually a loving partner. I think you need to let this one slide.

I’m sorry I agree OP. Some guys actually find all the bended knee stuff an ordeal the first time round. My instinct is he’s grumpy because he’s feeling you are trying to puppeteer him into that and he really doesn’t want to. I think you might just have to content yourself with the fact he’s replaced it ( presumably without a whinge that you lost it, which in itself might have tested his self restraint) and take the pressure off him.

LadyBird1973 · 25/12/2023 09:49

He agreed to go shopping for a new one and therefore shouldn't behave like a grumpy arse in the shops. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that buying a new ring is meant to be pleasurable (irrespective of how the original came your way be lost) and he ruined that for the OP.
Silent treatment is also arsehole behaviour - OP is only focusing on a big presentation because she's worried he doesn't love her/has mentally checked out, so is looking for some reassurance on a way that would be meaningful to her. It's fucking horrible to call someone a princess, who is basically just worried.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/12/2023 09:47

Crikey, I never had an engagement ring at all. At the time (back in the Dark Ages) dh thought ‘getting engaged’ was desperately uncool. He’d probably have said ‘naff’ if the word had then been invented.

He did give me a lovely ring right after the birth of dd2, which meant a great deal more to me.

3peassuit · 25/12/2023 09:46

I think if I lost my ring my husband would buy me another but he would see it just as a replacement; rather like buying a toaster if the old one packed up. It doesn’t mean your DH doesn’t love and value you, he just views this in a different way.

caringcarer · 25/12/2023 09:45

stayathomer · 25/12/2023 09:36

Whenever myself and dh have a fight dh uses the word ‘irrational’ to get me riled up and I always say ‘I couldn’t care less if I’m irrational, feelings are irrational in general but it’s how I feel!’ That kind of applies here, it doesn’t matter whether it’s necessary or unnecessary for him to do this a certain way or act enthusiastic, but it’s not a big deal and no skin off his nose to do it enthusiastically or make an effort

They are married, he should know his wife well enough to know she was excited to be getting the replacement ring and act accordingly to make it special for her. When I had a replacement wedding ring because my fingers swelled up when pregnant my dh bought me an identical ring in a bigger size and when we were out for a meal held me hand, looked into my eyes and slipped it on my finger telling me he always wanted to be married to me. It took him 2 minutes but made me happy. I think that's all OP was looking for a bit of enthusiasm and romance. He just couldn't be arsed.

Nanny0gg · 25/12/2023 09:40

Mmmmpavlova · 25/12/2023 01:15

Yes, I think you're right. You've phrased that in a way I needed to hear... I am reading into it as a symbol of our feelings for each other.... maybe he is not.

Also - yes, I am very lucky that we can get a replacement. Completely.

To add - he originally seemed as keen on the idea as me, which is why this seems a turn around.

He still didn't need to behave the way he did in the shop.

Rude

Qwerty556 · 25/12/2023 09:38

brainworms · 25/12/2023 01:03

Men are so fucking crap, honestly.

Women are so fucking needy, honestly.

stayathomer · 25/12/2023 09:36

Whenever myself and dh have a fight dh uses the word ‘irrational’ to get me riled up and I always say ‘I couldn’t care less if I’m irrational, feelings are irrational in general but it’s how I feel!’ That kind of applies here, it doesn’t matter whether it’s necessary or unnecessary for him to do this a certain way or act enthusiastic, but it’s not a big deal and no skin off his nose to do it enthusiastically or make an effort

caringcarer · 25/12/2023 09:36

Grimpo · 25/12/2023 08:03

But how is he supposed to know how a "new ring experience" is meant to go? It's not as if there's any sort of established tradition around it. It's not as if it's a formal renewal of vows or anything, it's simply replacing something that got lost.

OP has given him a heads up. He just chose to be on his phone disinterested.

ActDottie · 25/12/2023 09:34

Sunnydays0101 · 25/12/2023 00:59

I think you were/are expecting too much re the ring. You see the ring as like a second engagement/proposal - your DH sees it for what it is, a replacement for the ring you lost.

This. I can’t imagine losing my ring and expecting my husband to propose again and go all romantic.

Sugarsun · 25/12/2023 09:34

Itsnamechange · 25/12/2023 09:32

They've been married for a decade.

You are completely right! I thought it said they’d been engaged for a decade, which is why OP was so upset!
Thanks!

Itsnamechange · 25/12/2023 09:32

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They've been married for a decade.

PSG · 25/12/2023 09:31

There’s a time and a place for everything and the engagement has already taken place x years ago. I wouldn’t have been able to come across as too bothered either.

Itsnamechange · 25/12/2023 09:30

I really think Hollywood has ruined women's perception of romantic love. You're looking for a performance here. What you've imagined isn't the norm, why would he propose to you again? He's not a mind reader, why would he even know you're looking for that?
The silent treatment isn't OK, address his communication skills with him. However you need to think more about what's really important in a relationship.

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Lifeasiknowitisout · 25/12/2023 09:25

HowAmYa · 25/12/2023 08:19

So the silent treatment is acceptable?

Its not about the ring or the experience. Its about just being a dick then thinking it's ok to also be controlling. Seriously whats happened to people's standards in how to treat one another these days?!

I'm going by what the op described. I couldn't treat my dp like that.

Firstly, he went to bed.

You might bang on talking all night but most don’t.

But also be quiet isn’t always the silent treatment and it’s not always abusive.

It can be a reaction to abuse. And a million things in between.

They aren’t getting engaged. He is replacing a lost engagement ring. And he had even given it to her when she was complaining about how it was given to her.

Most people couldn’t be fussed about with a discussion, about how one person made up that it was a reenactment of their engagement and expected a proposal style presentation of the present, told me I shoved it under the tree and they didn’t like that the situation they made up in their head didn’t happen. All on Christmas Eve before I had even given the present.

Its bonkers. He shoved the ring under the tree? Doesn’t even make sense. The addition of the word shoved is there to portray he didn’t care yet millions of people all placed gifts under trees last night and it’s usually seen as an act of care.

But because op assumed she wasn’t getting the fantasy she made up in her head, it’s not an act of care? Or because it’s a man it’s not an act of care?