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am I being wrongly suspicious?

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Sunbeamsandshadows · 21/12/2023 22:14

This is an odd one that I could do with some opinions on please.
things have been strained between my husband and me for some time now and as a result sex life has been pretty non existent. We are trying to work through things but I’m not sure we’ll make it long term. We have 3 kids all under 7 and he works away 2 weeks on, home 2
weeks,
recently our eldest son had to stay in hospital overnight for a routine test. For a few reasons we decided it was best for my husband to stay with him overnight while I stayed at home with the other 2. This was a few weeks ago and last night my son said something really odd to me ☹️he said very seriously that when he was in hospital, in the evening a woman came to visit them and brought q present for him and a coffee for his dad and her and his dad were laughing a lot and as she lefy he saw them hold hands and he saw them kiss. He said he didn’t want me to be sad so was telling me. i didn't want to grill him but he said it wasn't a nurse as she was wearing a black jumper and jeans and left quickly.
i mentioned this as causally as i could this morning to my husband and he laughed it off saying nonsense, it must have been a nurse or another parent on the ward stopping to chat, or someone from the charity workers who give out small gifts to children and a toothbrush care package to parents. but something in his "whaaat? nonsense" response just didn't feel right somehow.
something is ringing alarm bells for me as my son doesn't lie, he does have an imagination yes but this was so so specific down to the clothes she wore. I just don't know what to do next ☹️

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SeparatedAndFree · 24/12/2023 00:00

Can you check his phone? I suspected my ex was cheating on me for a while but whenever I questioned anything I was crazy. I eventually checked his phone and found all the evidence in black and white. Any old phones lying about you can check?

It might be nothing, maybe your son was confused with being ill but you won't know for sure unless you check!

FreshStart90 · 23/12/2023 23:42

Okay so to check his past location you need to be able to get into his phone (which phone is it?) and if he is logged into gmail then that is a good way to check as Google location services are usually on by default (some people choose to switch them off but for most they are on in the background all the time). So let me know what type of phone he has and whether you can get into it when he’s asleep: I would be looking through all messages in case he has forgotten to delete some, his WhatsApp, (including any deleted folder) his emails, and to check his past location history you need to go into Google and if he’s logged in to any Google account then click on the initials in the top right, then “manage Google account”, then “manage your data and privacy”, then “things you’ve done and places you’ve been” and then check on that page whether location history is on or off/paused? If it is on you can click on that or the maps timeline to see where he’s been.

LadyGAgain · 22/12/2023 10:08

I feel sad for your son. He is worried and he told you what he believes he saw so regardless of whether your DH is having an affair or not, your son thinks he is and will be terrified of the consequences/fall out. Yet he told you which suggests that his love for you is greater than his fear which is so sweet. Whilst you try to work out your next move, please do not forget that he is feeling confused, sad, nervous, worried. And this is not his fault.

amylou8 · 22/12/2023 08:46

It's a very odd thing for your son to make up, but he was in a stressful and unusual environment, so not beyond the realms of possibility he's mistaken or dreamt it. I think in the absence of any other suspicions you've really got no choice but to put it down to this. I'd certainly be a bit more vigilant going forward though.

Sunbeamsandshadows · 22/12/2023 08:32

I don’t know who would have been in at that time so no one to message ☹️

it so hard to say as things have been not great between us for a while so we yes he is on his phone a lot etc but he does have a lot of work admin to do when not away so I’ve never really bothered about it, but now I’m wondering if he could be in touch with someone? It’s just I can’t wrap my head around it. I wouldn’t know the first thing about hiring a private detective and it feels sort of movie like to do it, again perhaps in naive but is this really something people do in normal every day life? I worry if I’m wrong here and my husband found out I’d hired a detective to follow him he’d be either worried for my mental health or really angry (I can’t imagine if the roles were reversed and u I found out he’d paid someone to follow me and take pictures without me knowing) ☹️

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Allfur · 22/12/2023 08:17

Perhaps have another chat with him, this time with more details

Abbimae · 22/12/2023 07:41

Make plans to leave/make sure you can leave. Can’t offer anything other than sympathy as it does sound fishy

C1N1C · 22/12/2023 07:35

As I've said in another post, I think a good metric of relationship stability is sharing phones. Let your phone drain and simply ask him if you can borrow his phone to look up train times, theatre tickets etc. If he makes up some excuse, then feel free to worry. I'd have no qualms about handing my phone over, ever.

But secondary questions... does he seem happier? More evasive? Is he generally hiding his phone or messaging more?

marcopront · 22/12/2023 07:22

Do you know any of the other parents who were at the hospital at the same time?
Could you talk to one of them?

LaurieStrode · 22/12/2023 02:07

I think your boy could have misinterpreted a handshake/handclasp and an air kiss. Some people are effusive and kiss everyone they know.

Was he anesthetized? That can muddle things.

Was your husband keen to accompany him to hospital?

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autienotnaughty · 22/12/2023 01:46

I'd check his social media see if he's friends with anyone matching that description and I probably would check his phone even though it's wrong to do so.

Mostlyoblivious · 22/12/2023 01:29

If it’s GOSH then they have ward liaisons and very lovely nurses and they know when people are popping around with presents - as big a place as it is, they do know the comings and goings.

It is odd - running the scenario that he is having an affair then it’s a bit cocky to invite her and either not care that DS would note something, think he wasn’t capable of understanding (still under the arrogant heading!) or felt able to call his son a liar if he did say something, which the dismissal could well be. If it is an affair, it might be a sign she wants to get to know the children or have a bit of a saviour complex. It clearly unsettled your boy and you haven’t been able to dismiss it so it’s clearly unsettled you.

Check his phone when he is next asleep if you feel you are being lied to. Go from there. I’m sorry you’re having to countenance any of this OP.

Copperoliverbear · 22/12/2023 00:59

Men do some strange things, my friends ex husband took her oldest child about three or four to stay at his girlfriends house for the night, while she was in hospital giving birth to their second child.

Sunbeamsandshadows · 22/12/2023 00:08

no- we have seperate accounts but a joint account for bills so no, i wouldn’t know if he was spending money on meals or anything with her ☹️☹️do you really think they’d meet just for 10 mins when our son was in hospital? My head just can’t imagine this but I know I’m naive ☹️☹️

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Sunbeamsandshadows · 22/12/2023 00:06

So brazen, I mean I guess if this is a long term relationship she may have wanted to see him but I can't believe it would all be going in under my nose and me miss it all ☹️my dad had an affair and my mum only found out when i happened to walk in when he was on the phone to her and i heard enough to tell my mum and then the truth all came out and he was the most unlikely person to have an affair so i know it can happen ☹️

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determinedtomakethiswork · 22/12/2023 00:04

I disagree with people saying that this wouldn't happen if you were having an affair. The people I know who have had affairs would do anything at all to meet up. They would drive for hours just for a few minutes together.

OP, I would absolutely believe my son. There was no reason for him to make it up, no delirium or anything like that.

The fact your husband works away from home is very significant. What about bank accounts? Would you notice if he was spending money on meals out?

travelallthetime · 21/12/2023 23:57

Im not sure I buy that. I mean, if your having an affair then it seems a) an odd place to meet and b) its so public, like right in front of your son? Very brazen if so.

All you can do is sit down and ask your husband to be honest, say you would just rather know. Keep an eye on kdd outings or being precious over his phone but I wouldnt read too much in to it

TinyKittenPaw · 21/12/2023 23:57

I would be inclined to believe your son, your husbands response is weird too, he didn’t find it strange or want to try and understand how the confusion could have happened, just quickly said it was nonsense.

if your husband says he bought the fidget toy, ask where from as you’d like to get others for the other kids. Look on the bank statements for a purchase from which ever shop around the same time - also where could he have bought it when he was stuck at the hospital?

it feels like the toy is physical evidence that backs up her being there, especially if you DH could t have actually bought it?

If it’s a long term affair and she lives near by it wouldn’t be that crazy that she would turn up to support him and bring him coffee - even do something to hasten you finding out so they can be together, if that is her hope? They may pert have thought your son was asleep when they kissed.

Could it be the case that he comes home a day after his shift finishes and leaves a day early to see her?

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 21/12/2023 23:54

My friend's child is admitted to hospital fairly often due to a genetic condition, she is always visited at least once by charity workers and always comes home with new toys that they give. It could easily have been that, with the kiss being a miss interpretation - she bent over near him to pick something up etc, or she got tangled in a dream he had. I would let this one go.

Sunbeamsandshadows · 21/12/2023 23:51

How do you check past location on a phone? Sorry I am so so new to any of this!

my son said he wasn’t sleeping when she came, said the woman came in and gave him a present for being brave and gave his dad a coffee and sat chatting to his dad very close and laughing and his dad looked at her like he loved her ☹️then she got up to go and as she left he saw them kiss. ☹️☹️

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NeurodivergentBurnout · 21/12/2023 23:49

When DD was about 7, she told my then H (now XH) that she thought I had a new boyfriend..her swimming teacher! All because I had a quick chat with him 🤣 so yeah, kids can get muddled up!
Does your H have social media? Particularly Snapchat? I did OLD last year and a few guys asked to Snapchat rather than stay on the app or WhatsApp, including a couple who worked on the rigs. I was a bit suss that some of them were in relationships and Snapchat vanishes leaving little trace 😬 I’d be stalking his social media in your situation..

Sunbeamsandshadows · 21/12/2023 23:48

I’m loathe to ask my son anything as he changed the subject to transformers once he’d said what he wanted to say and I don’t want to make him talk about it if he feels weird about it ☹️I don’t know what an air tag is but could Google it 😊he’s on Facebook but rarely ever posts and as for relatives they are nearly all in Australia and he’s not super close with them. His friends are his work mates mainly and I doubt they’d let anything slip (again I’ve no idea as never been in this position before but they are very close as work away together so are more like best friends than colleagues I think)

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FreshStart90 · 21/12/2023 23:47

You’re definitely not going mad OP, so just reassure yourself. Most men in this situation will attempt to gaslight until actual evidence is brought to them. It is possible it is all innocent, however I would also do some digging to find out for certain. If he won’t let you look through his phone for some peace of mind, then can you get a hold of his phone bills, see who he called or texted that evening? You can also go through his WhatsApp which of course he can delete, and his social media messages: he would have to be very honest and open and if my DH wasn’t honest and open with his phone after something like this, then I would think he has something to hide.

you can also check location history on his phone for dates you’ve ever felt uneasy or unable to get hold of him.

did your son say that his dad asked him to keep a secret or anything like that, or was your son sleeping and woke up to see this? (I’m thinking it would be brazen for any man to do this when son is fully awake). did your son actually speak to the woman?

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