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Is this a middle class saying?

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Toblecorleone · 17/12/2023 19:36

Light hearted!

earlier today DH and I took DD to a small petting zoo type place. Not many people there and at one point it was just us and another woman with a girl aged about 3. Woman seemed quite posh, well spoken, both dressed rather posh - the woman was explaining something about guinea pigs to her daughter and then broke off and said “do you want bog?”

The girl said she did so off they went to find the toilets. I was quite suprised by the this phrase from someone who seemed so well spoken but DH says it’s a very middle class saying and he’d have thought “toilet” would have sounded more “common”.

I totally disagree!! Before anyone starts I know it doesn’t matter, I’m just amused by it and interested in how others would perceive this saying?!

YABU - Bog is very middle class
YANBU - bog is common talk

OP posts:
ActDottie · 17/12/2023 20:10

Bog is definitely not middle class! I was always taught that bog was a horrible way to describe toilet… and I grew up in a middle class family.

stayathomer · 17/12/2023 20:11

If you even think that about someone who seems posh then you have a weird opinion of people- also is middle class posh?! Im probably lower/ middle class, and I’d look at people that are similar to the royal family and think ‘whoah they’re posh!’

auburnglow788 · 17/12/2023 20:12

I've never heard anyone say "Do you want bog?"
Bog is not middle class and even amongst the working class, it's not often used anymore.

narniabusiness · 17/12/2023 20:12

Thepeopleversuswork · 17/12/2023 20:02

There's nothing wrong with it at all, it's a perfectly good functional work. But in the U vs non U class system of the 1920s its considered very lower middle class. It's not a word the upper classes use.

Nancy Mitford wrote the U and Non U lists as a bit of a light newspaper column in the beginning but it proved to be very popular. The Non U words were often French in derivation - hence Toilet and Serviette. Why she had a downer on French words I don’t know. She lived in France for much of the latter half of her life.

QuestionableMouse · 17/12/2023 20:12

Bog is 100% not posh. Bog is what a hairy arsed builder would say.

5128gap · 17/12/2023 20:14

Everyone i know says toilet unless it's very informal when they might 'pop to the loo'. WC background but have friends and colleagues from all walks of life. I've never heard anyone say lavatory and only the very rough kids at school said 'bog' and got told off for it by the teachers.

SgtJuneAckland · 17/12/2023 20:14

Loo sounds the most MC to me, especially if you nip there.
Bog I've not heard since school, in a rough part of East London.

LSTMS30555 · 17/12/2023 20:15

I'd have thought "do you need a shit or do you need a piss"
Would clearly indicate lower class, however anything else is acceptable for most people.

MrsMitford3 · 17/12/2023 20:16

I loathe the word toilet

fishfingersandtoes · 17/12/2023 20:16

I grew up with 'going to the bog' and I was very working class. I think sometimes wc and posh have crossovers in language and also don't bother defending the boundaries as much as mc people perhaps do.

mummymayhem18 · 17/12/2023 20:16

Bog is most definitely "common". Nothing wrong with toilet. Blimey lol. Maybe it's said differently for different parts on the country lol. 🚽 😊

SgtJuneAckland · 17/12/2023 20:17

Posh is different, it's muddy, freezing leaking country pile, labradors everywhere (whose names you can't differentiate from the children's nicknames) , and will say absolutely anything without a second thought. Almost the antithesis of MC

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 17/12/2023 20:18

Toblecorleone · 17/12/2023 19:42

So are we saying bog is posher than toilet?

I think so, but it’s just odd to say it to a small child like that. Are you quite sure that’s what she said and that’s where they went?

Hollowgast · 17/12/2023 20:18

I think the polite term is "Dump station"

kittylion2 · 17/12/2023 20:19

Oh well you're all totally the opposite of posh - us poshies say Aunty Mabel's Donut in the Greenhouse. (Snooty face emoji)

Corgiowner · 17/12/2023 20:19

John Benjaman wrote a brilliant poem about it called How To Get On In Society:

Phone for the fish knives, Norman
As cook is a little unnerved;
You kiddies have crumpled the serviettes
And I must have things daintily served.

Are the requisites all in the toilet?
The frills round the cutlets can wait
Till the girl has replenished the cruets
And switched on the logs in the grate.

It's ever so close in the lounge dear,
But the vestibule's comfy for tea
And Howard is riding on horseback
So do come and take some with me

Now here is a fork for your pastries
And do use the couch for your feet;
I know that I wanted to ask you-
Is trifle sufficient for sweet?

Milk and then just as it comes dear?
I'm afraid the preserve's full of stones;
Beg pardon, I'm soiling the doileys
With afternoon tea-cakes and scones.

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 17/12/2023 20:20

It's a horrible expression imho, regardless of 'class'.

PrinnyPree · 17/12/2023 20:21

Benibidibici · 17/12/2023 20:05

"The bogs" was the standard word for the loos at my working class/lower middle class suburban comprehensive school during the 90s.

Same, although I say to my toddler "do you need the toilet" all the time in public, I had no idea I was being so uncouth!

I still have a working class accent although I live in a veeeeery middle class town and am probably technically "middle class" myself (in the sense of career, house, postgrad education etc) now. I'll say loo from now on 😆 in fact it reminds me of when I had a summer job when I was 20yrs old enrolling people onto adult evening classes and I pronounced Pilates to rhyme with pie-plates...

LauderSyme · 17/12/2023 20:21

I had an aunt by marriage who was the Honourable Lady Something and grew up in what is literally a National Trust property. She routinely employed the foulest language but always used the term "water closet" for the smallest room.

I was taught that "bog" is a terribly vulgar word and I was raised on a council estate.

ScruffMuffin · 17/12/2023 20:22

I haven't seen or heard Bog for many years. In our family, it's a word reserved for the particularly gross loos we were forced to use at secondary school.

Thighdentitycrisis · 17/12/2023 20:22

My mum’s pretty old and says lavatory. It’s outdated. I think I usually say loo. Bog was what we used at school 70’s and 80’s and I imagine teachers expected us to say toilet. What a minefield !

narniabusiness · 17/12/2023 20:22

@Corgiowner 😂I’ve not seen that poem before. I’m left wondering what’s wrong with some of the phrases though.

whiskeyfoxtrotcharlie · 17/12/2023 20:22

'Do you want bog' sounds horrid and very uncouth. Ugh!

My granny used to say (in cut-glass tones) 'Does anyone need to spend a penny?'

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/12/2023 20:22

Crapper.

LakieLady · 17/12/2023 20:23

I've always called it the bog. I'd never say "going bog", though, it would be "going to the bog". It was used at my (independent girls' grammar) school, so it might be posh, but it was also widely used on the dead rough Croydon council where I grew up.

I sometimes use "khazi", and occasionally "lavvy", but that started out as a pisstake of a friend's Scottish granny.

I hate the word "loo", it sounds really twee and mimsy to my ear. And it's widely used among the ILs, who are totally working class but with pretensions of gentility (think "serviettes", doilies and sandwiches with the crusts cut off).