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Burnt arm 3 year old

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Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 20:25

My 3 year old burn his arm on the oven door surface this evening whilst cooking.

It's a thin white line with red irritation around it.

I think we should go to a and e as NHS says any burn under 10 years needs medical attention. DH says no Biggie as we ran under water and put him to bed.

He is not in discomfort. AIBU?

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Pinkpinkpink15 · 15/12/2023 21:44

@Tuftytoo

aww bless, poor little poppet. Hopefully he's learnt a lesson here, so it doesn't happen again.

i wouldn't A&E for that.

scaring depends on many factors. You seen excessively worried by that, is there a particular reason?

Don't put any oils, butter, honey on it or any other food.

have you considered doing a St John's paediatric course? It's a goid course & I think all parents should do it.

ive heard your favourite breakfast help the record process! ☺️

Jonas25 · 15/12/2023 21:43

My 4-year old had a whitie coloured burn that didn't blister but was in so much pain I took him to a minor injuries unit. They said I was right to bring him in as it was a bad burn so the skin was unable to blister. I then had to attend two follow up appointments to check healing. Fine now thankfully. Not saying this applies to you OP but in case anyone reading thinks no blisters means don't worry.

Humbugg · 15/12/2023 21:36

Agree with others definitely do not put oil on burns! It keeps the heat in which keeps the burn going…skin needs to cool down not stay hot

Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 21:30

@BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou thanks for your input appreciate it. I will watch and wait and see how is tmrw. Hopefully it'll look better in the morning.

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BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 15/12/2023 21:23

That looks like a superficial burn - i.e. no broken skin or blistering. I would treat that with 20 mins (at least) under COOL running water (not really cold). No need for anything like cling film as skin not broken. A burn gel should only be applied when you are 100% sure there is no heat left in the injury.
In a child a burn in the arm should get medical attention if the skin is broken or blistered or if if the area is the size of the child’s hand (which is approx 1% of body surface area).

Utterlypeanuterly · 15/12/2023 21:22

There's a gel for burns. Burnshield hydrogel I think and it's amazing. Really soothing.

Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 21:22

@Mostlyoblivious I mean I think it's definitely a bit ouchy. Tbh we've been trying not to touch it. I'm not sure it would penetrate muscle from a touch and remove scenario? But could be wrong

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rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:18

Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 21:15

@rosyglowcondition reassuring to know you've worked in as an a&e nurse so probably seen it all! I will keep an eye on it. You just worry about everything when they are this little

Bless him that does look quite sore. He must be a resilient poppet.

blorm · 15/12/2023 21:17

Do not put peppermint oil or lavender oil on it

Mostlyoblivious · 15/12/2023 21:15

Is there pain when they touch it? If not then that’s an issue.

AuditAngel · 15/12/2023 21:15

Boots sell a soothing burn gel that is good to apply after cool water. We always keep a bottle in the kitchen

Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 21:15

@rosyglowcondition reassuring to know you've worked in as an a&e nurse so probably seen it all! I will keep an eye on it. You just worry about everything when they are this little

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Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 21:10

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Burnt arm 3 year old
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SleepyRich · 15/12/2023 21:08

Horary in 111 giving out sensible advice shocker!!! So used to hearing them send people to A&E to get checked out, suspect that winter pressures might be having an effect.

I think you did everything right here, cooling under running water is the critical treatment for that type of burn normally recommended to occur for 20 minutes, which is a lifetime for a 3 year old so I'll be amazed if you made that but with the contact being fleeting and distress being minimal sounds like you did it for long enough.

A big part of the guidance around going to A&E is more so it can be judged whether it was a done to the child deliberately, burning children is quite a common abuse mechanism.

MissBuffyAnneSummers · 15/12/2023 21:04

Phone NHS out of hours (don't know what is called in England) for advice before you go and spend 10-12 hours sitting in A&E or at least go to. Minor injuries unit instead.

Wishiwasatailor · 15/12/2023 21:04

only You can see how bad it is and whether it needs review. First aid advice for all burns run under cool water for as long as it’s tolerated ideally 20mins. You can apply a thin layer of Vaseline which will keep the burn hydrated and help healing. Don’t apply savlon or other creams as it actually slows healing.
Obviously red hot swelling unwell or further concerns get it checked out. - paediatric MIU nurse

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:02

Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 20:58

@rosyglowcondition yes it was a quick touch and removal. Just worried as baby/toddler skin is still growing and different to ours. I would not be worried if I did this to myself (which I have many a time)

Yes, it does scar quite readily...think chickenpox! But it can also be very forgiving...think chickenpox! I'm sure he'll be fine. Used to be an A&E nurse lol.

DataMum88 · 15/12/2023 21:01

Please don't put any oil on it, this actually retains heat and makes things worse.

111 for sure and follow their guidance - there are lots of cases that need to be seen in A&E, including any burns bigger than palm of victim's hand, burns on hands, face, throat, genitals etc., burns caused by oil, acid, electricity etc., burns with a black edge or skin broken. It doesn't sound like these, but still on a young child.

Run under cold water for at least 20 mins, cover loosely with cling film to keep clean if skin is broken and remove tight fitting clothing in case of swelling. Don't use ice or ice packs.

If in doubt always go to A&E or at very least, contact 111.

Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 20:58

@rosyglowcondition yes it was a quick touch and removal. Just worried as baby/toddler skin is still growing and different to ours. I would not be worried if I did this to myself (which I have many a time)

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Tuftytoo · 15/12/2023 20:56

111 said to run cool not cold water on it and let it breathe so no cling film around it and send him to bed and check on his arm in the morning.

Just in case anyone reads this thread with same issue they also said if he becomes unwell in himself, temperature or the appearance of the burn worsens then call back or go get checked out.

I concur I did not fancy a and e tonight BUT would have taken him if they deemed necessary and thought it might scar or cause long term damage without treatment

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Melonely · 15/12/2023 20:56

Going to go against the grain because I always thought white burns are the most serious? He might not be crying because it's numb from the damage

SD1978 · 15/12/2023 20:54

Surprises me that the recommendation and most people feel that any burn has to go to A&E. If you've done appropriate aftercare, and he's not distressed, I'd be seeing a GP as that seems very minor.

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 20:54

If the skin is unbroken and not blistered and you're sure it was just a quick touch and removal then no risk of underlying damage, it won't scar.

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 20:51

A friction burn is not strictly speaking a burn, but a large open wound area, which has a high risk of becoming infected, especially if it was outdoors. Also very painful.

A thin while line isn't as big as a 50p piece, it's a thin white line, but only OP knows precisely how long this is so in the best position to judge. The issue with burns is they can cause damage to the underlying structure and that is dangerous. However a very quick touch on the cooker door and pulling away is unlikely to result in this kind of injury. It would need to be sustained contact. 111 should give adequate advice. A&E in a Friday night will be hell on earth.

Skyisbluegrassisgreen · 15/12/2023 20:49

I’d put peppermint oil on it to take the heat out of the burn and help with the pain, and apply for a couple of days then lavender oil to help it heal.

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