fucking Stephen Fry

You say you're not ageist, yet in every post you refer to "older men". You are ageist and misandrist.

YANBU

Cannot stand the man

What an extraordinary thread.
I agree with op about people who like the sound of their own voice and Lordy are there a lot, mainly male. But this was an article based on a radio interview. He’s not knocked on your door @Showmethesunny, barged in and is plonked in your sofa chatting 💩
I’ve also watched
Dopesick and Painkiller and had no idea it was prescribed here and interested to hear the doctor’s reasoning.

I'd rather not thanks

I think he's great. He does press interviews because he's a public figure who needs to maintain his profile and people are interested.

I'd far rather read about him than some footballer or reality TV star. He has interesting ideas and writes good books.

He feels like an uncle or something. I'm glad he's found stability and happiness after all his problems in earlier life. He's been in the public eye for more than 40 years, which is a big achievement.

OP, will you fade gracefully as an older woman?

Jesus op what did Stephen fry do to you.
If you don't like the article don't read it.

Do you work for a drugs company? Trying to discredit any criticism of the drugs sounds suspiciously defensive.
Before OxyContin (and still now) people WERE given morphine…typically for end of life care, when frankly the risk of addiction was not a key consideration. OxyContin is way more powerful than morphine and increasingly was being prescribed for general pain under the guise of “it’s not morphine so you’re ok…nothing to see here!” meanwhile boosting profits for drugs companies.
Fact is, the drug companies are not making these drugs because they care about lessening your pain. They are making them because it makes them huge profits….especially when they are prescribed long term.
Ive no doubt they help pain relief…but at what cost?

He was contributing to a conference about his own experience of his voice having been used (stolen) via AI to broadcast things he had never said: the issue that has caused the Hollywood actors strike, and is an economic, ethical, security etc risk right now.

There was no coverage if the extent Or severity of his injuries after brief reports on the night which don’t mention broken pelvis.

An eye witness in one report from September talks about it being dark and there being no handrail… there has been precious little discussion or outrage about the importance of his, or anyone’s, life in that context from the press (though I imagine it is subject to an inquiry so out of the press atm).

I hope he continues to recover well, a gruelling experience for anyone.

Crikey, what an embarrassing post OP!

It says far more about you than it does Stephen Fry.

I like Stephen Fry but agree we don't need to know his medical history.

However, in the article what jumped out was the doctor saying it wasn't for his sake but the sake of the NHS because it would be a longer recovery without it. Which I think speaks more to the state on the NHS that they have to think about what will get people discharged quicker rather than what is necessarily right or what the patient needs/wants.

Could that be the reason It's being mentioned? To shine a light on what the NHS doctors are having to do?

It’s vanishingly unlikely that the Dr actually said that in the way it’s presented.

This thread is appalling. I hope the OP and a number of PP have the excuse that they were pissed when they posted their bile.

I genuinely think that if Sandi Toksvig had told the same anecdote on Claudia Winkleman’s Radio 2 show it would have been picked up by the Guardian in the same way. Their US edition has done a huge amount of investigative reporting on the opioid crisis. Is she a pointless old woman?

One of my Dc was given Fentanyl, the opioid that Michael Jackson was addicted to, after extreme bone surgery. It wasn’t for expediency or ‘the state of the NHS’, it was because it was the best painkiller under the circumstances to enable recovery.

The physio is crucial to recovery, and needs painkillers to make it possible.

He was excellent in the Dropout recently and a very funny intelligent nan

Absolutely.

What a deeply unpleasant thread. OP - your backpedalling last night simply doesn't wash.

I can take him or leave him but the irony of calling him "pointless" when your contribution is limited to weird shit-stirring like this is immense.

He suffered extensive serious fractures didn't he? Of course he's going to be offered the really strong opiate pain relief, where's the news? Also why the need for a thread about it?

Yes you have - and then you go on again about a 'certain type of older man', thus reinforcing the point.

Appalling posts from you.

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OxyContin is a brand name of a modified release version of oxycodone. Anyone who has fractured a pelvis, hip and legs will require analgesia; most patients will be offered morphine or oxycodone as the level of pain from these injuries will demand it. It’s not like he was being offered opioids willy nilly and discharged with the telephone number of the local drug dealer FFS!

Guardian with a non story there.

Yes. He says he broke his leg in two places, his hip and pelvis in 4 places and also broke ribs.

Horrific.

Ouch! I didn't see articles or threads like this when Jeremy Renner had his accident and suffered similar severe injuries.

It was a really odd article. Man Prescribed Strong Painkiller For Appropriate Medical Reasons is hardly news.

Didn't change my view of Fry, but I did wonder why on earth the Guardian ran with it.

But who’s forcing you to read it? You said you had no time in your life for people like him, yet you start a thread about it.