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To think there’s too much ‘stuff’

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autumnnightsaredrawingin · 26/11/2023 12:06

This time of year is always bad for it, and I know one can ignore the endless marketing emails, the Christmas markets, the shops full of ‘stuff’, the Instagram ‘must haves’ and on and on it goes.

We are having a big declutter at the moment, and it really brings home home much stuff there is that we’ve accumulated, but also just generally how consumerism has really got crazy. I am myself guilty of buying too much stuff.

Eg: Christmas decorations. Why do some people buy a whole new set/colour scheme every year? Same for decorations for the house, there are piles and piles of different things in shops, so much. It surely can’t all be needed/bought.

Black Friday, yes it’s a good deal if you actually need the stuff, but often it’s not things you actually ‘need’.

I just find it all quite sad and obviously from an environmental aspect it’s terrible. I am really, really going to try to cut back on this stuff. Anyone else? Or are you already pretty good? I have added things to online baskets over the last few days and then cleared them and not bought them which is a start.

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WolfFoxHare · 26/11/2023 20:01

I keep suggesting to our PTA that they do a Christmas jumper sale sometime in November so people can offload their kids’ outgrown ones, other people can get cheap jumper for their kids and the PTA can make a small profit. But no. So I buy a size up every other year and DC wears it for Xmas jumper day, Xmas lunch day, and the carol concert, and then it does the same duty the next year, before getting handed down to a friend with a younger D .

(And yes, I know I could join the PTA myself instead of criticising but I have a taxing full time job, a number of health conditions and a DC with some additional needs.)

Shadowonasun · 26/11/2023 19:10

Meh. I love Black Friday, this one was especially good for me. I was tracking some things before it, and bagged great deals. That said, I bought stuff I need and will use, not pointless crap: a laptop, 2 heated blankets and other bits and bobs I do need. Laptop was £200 cheaper than normal (I know how much it costs, wasn't a fake deal), blankets half price.

That said, whilst I'm not frugal for its own sake and I don't worry about consumerism at all, I pretty much never buy pointless shit just because. I don't always buy just 'practical' stuff obvs, but if I buy something, I will use it/keep it, I won't bin it in a week or after the season.

Changing decorations, etc every year is just completely alien to me. Not because of frugality or whatever, but it's just weird. Why would you? The ones I own are beautiful, I like them and they're perfectly fine, why would I chuck them and buy other ones? I grew up in a wealthy household, but the concept of chucking good stuff/changing furniture very often (non-broken furniture), etc wasn't heard of. Even among the rich people (I'm not from UK). It was thus: you buy good/best quality possible and you stick with it. Not forever, but you stick with it and don't just replace it every year on a whim.

The most baffling aspect re UK and Christmas for me are cards. Every year I read on here: 'he/she/they forgot a card', 'He didn't even bother to buy me a card', 'where do you buy beautiful cards?', etc. Now I know what they're for, but.. Why? Just call/message? And if you're giving a present, just give a present, why do you need a card on top? And what do people do with them all, straight in the bin? Store them somewhere and look at them from time to time? I don't judge, it's a cultural difference, I'm just interested.

Agii · 26/11/2023 18:49

Wednesday6 · 26/11/2023 13:11

I'm originally not from the UK and have been living here for 10 years. I still wince when I see the amount of cards and wrapping paper. We don't wrap presents where I'm from we re-use gift bags instead and there aren't cards unless you want to write a specific message or the gift is from several people who are not present. Not that I expect UK to change but there is LOT of waste over Christmas. It's not just one present.. it's tons and tons of things you're supposed to have: matching pj, stockings, multiple gifts, etc etc it's over the top. I'm sure many feel same as you and I think it's important to set your own traditions (I like same Christmas decorations that are older) and fight consumerism.

I feel the same, as I'm in the same boat regarding Christmas traditions abroad. Less waste, less pushing for countless presents that aren't necessary.

NeelyOHara1 · 26/11/2023 18:11

YNBU but countries don't seem to be allowed any alternative economic system other than the consumerist growth one.

Jellycatspyjamas · 26/11/2023 18:09

My kids can wear their Christmas jumper throughout December in school, so they get lots of wear. I buy a bigger size, they get at least two years wear - DDs is in her third year and still going strong. I think if you buy carefully you can do some Christmas stuff without the excess waste.

My Christmas tree has decorations that are 30+ years old, we buy a new bauble each year so the tree has grown with is and is full of memories.

User18598390 · 26/11/2023 18:08

I got some Christmas pyjamas in the Next sale last year, I just wear them as normal pyjamas in the winter, it doesn't really matter they are Christmas themed, I can still wear them, they were a good price.

mogsrus · 26/11/2023 18:07

Exactly this but po still fall for it.

bombastix · 26/11/2023 18:04

mogsrus · 26/11/2023 17:50

Black Friday is nothing more than a sale at a certain time of year. Most of the items have been on sale before & the money they knock off is not a huge amount, the question is if they can afford to reduce the items, how come they do not sell at the price they reduce them to as the normal price? Profit to cover losses

What they do is increase the price at least 28 days before the day, and then "reduce".

StaringAtTheWater · 26/11/2023 18:00

@ItsRainingTacos79 I think a Christmas jumper swap rather than a sale works better. At our school you bring in your jumper the day before, receive a ticket, and change your ticket for a different jumper the following day. The same approach is done for Halloween costumes, and wellington boots.

autumnnightsaredrawingin · 26/11/2023 17:59

Also, some of the biggest displays of excess and consumerism and general OTT comes from the very wealthy. As I’ve said, it’s not just the cheap shit. All those ridiculous ‘Christmas doors’ with balloon arches, plastic Christmas stuff… it might look beautiful in some cases, and I admit to think oh that looks lovely. Necessary? No. But then I guess so much of what we buy/have isn’t strictly necessary.

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Topofthemountain · 26/11/2023 17:38

My winter PJ's are long trousers and long sleeved top, it can be a struggle to get anything other than a Christmas style that fits the bill. I wear them for half the year. My towels come out every year, there's lots of things that I only use a few times a year, especially the summer beach stuff, but I still have them. I'm not sure why the Christmas items gets people so wound up.

Replacing them every year is a different issue.

Yeah I agree with this. My DC do get matching ‘Christmas pyjamas’ that I buy in maybe November time. They wear them (in rotation with their other nightwear!) from then until it gets too hot in the summer for winter pyjamas. I do try to get them to wear them on Christmas Eve though!

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mogsrus · 26/11/2023 17:50

Black Friday is nothing more than a sale at a certain time of year. Most of the items have been on sale before & the money they knock off is not a huge amount, the question is if they can afford to reduce the items, how come they do not sell at the price they reduce them to as the normal price? Profit to cover losses

SamphireAndSalmon · 26/11/2023 17:49

Well yes it's called capitalism op. And we are now drowning in plastic. It's sad.

MammaWeasel · 26/11/2023 17:48

The worst I've seen was a Christmas themed loo brush holder......

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 26/11/2023 17:40

Ywlala92 · 26/11/2023 12:08

Do you actually know people who buy entire new sets of decorations each year? 😳

I think Black Friday works in that I only buy things I've wanted but couldn't afford and / or Christmas presents for better value

I used to know someone who did. Blue, purple, gold, silver…. She used to complain a lot about being skint, too!

Topofthemountain · 26/11/2023 17:38

mogsrus · 26/11/2023 17:30

With you all the way to what you have said, what is the actual point? senseless beyond belief.

My winter PJ's are long trousers and long sleeved top, it can be a struggle to get anything other than a Christmas style that fits the bill. I wear them for half the year. My towels come out every year, there's lots of things that I only use a few times a year, especially the summer beach stuff, but I still have them. I'm not sure why the Christmas items gets people so wound up.

Replacing them every year is a different issue.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 26/11/2023 17:38

KimberleyClark · 26/11/2023 12:36

I do know people who’ve got rid of their perfectly good sofas because they didn’t match the new decor, rather than redecorating to match the sofas.

They often end up in charity shops. In a local one, for the hospice, I’ve seen sofas that must have cost many hundreds of £££ new, if not £2k ish, for say around £150. In good condition, too.

autumnnightsaredrawingin · 26/11/2023 17:34

Also, this thread was not meant to be judgy. In my OP I said I actually like shopping and buying things. It’s just the amount that seems to be out there as PP have said. I think actually part of it is as ridiculous as it sounds, the mental load of having so much choice and ‘stuff’, have I bought x enough, is it ok to get x niece a present of higher value than y, where can I keep it all so the DC don’t find it etc etc. I also know that this a hugely privileged position to be in. As I also said, I am actively cutting down on stuff compounded by realising the amount of stuff we have accumulated during a clear out.

I also read something interesting which was that things that are marketed as ‘limited edition’ or very unique or whatever create an impression that they are a must have and more people try and buy them than otherwise would have.

To be honest, I do a lot of ‘shopping small’ ie supporting small businesses and brands (again, fortunate position to be able to do this). I am happy to do this and support people’s businesses. But even that has got a bit ‘manic’ recently with ‘drops’ and ‘countdowns’ and ‘limited edition.’ At the end of the day, although a lot of it is beautiful and lovely quality, if you don’t really need, say, another hand knitted jumper for your child, it’s still just stuff.

I think the point I’m trying to make, not very well, is that there is just too much. And it doesn’t matter if it’s too much in The Range, or too much in John Lewis or Selfridges, it’s just too much.

2024 I am really going to be taking a long hard look at my spending and shopping.

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mogsrus · 26/11/2023 17:30

NoCloudsAllowed · 26/11/2023 17:23

Yanbu.

I hate the Christmas themed stuff - towels, rugs, pyjamas, bedding, plates eetc.Why the fuck would you buy something you can only use for a few weeks? People who give their kids Christmas pyjamas on Christmas Eve that are then too small for them the following year?

With you all the way to what you have said, what is the actual point? senseless beyond belief.

Topofthemountain · 26/11/2023 17:29

I wear my Christmas themed PJ's all winter, and my socks I wear all year. Both to the annoyance of my teenage daughter. Not everyone only wears the items for one day / night.

sHREDDIES19 · 26/11/2023 17:28

I hate it with a passion. I’m very much influenced by my mother and the fact we were quite poor growing up so had to make do and mend. Her own mother kept things for decades like pots, pans, furniture etc as they were still in good condition. I follow the same way of living in that we buy quite good quality larger items that have so far lasted us nearly 20 years. I buy second hand nice clothes. Same plastic tree for the last ten years, same decorations, we don’t do silly gimmicks for the kids. They are very grounded and appreciate what they have. Don’t get me started on the likes of Temu and Shein.

NoCloudsAllowed · 26/11/2023 17:23

Yanbu.

I hate the Christmas themed stuff - towels, rugs, pyjamas, bedding, plates eetc.Why the fuck would you buy something you can only use for a few weeks? People who give their kids Christmas pyjamas on Christmas Eve that are then too small for them the following year?

Fionaville · 26/11/2023 17:23

Topofthemountain · 26/11/2023 17:13

I was shocked, however at the amount of tat in places like homebargains and B&M. Do people really have special Christmas bed sets and door mats?! Crazy!

Yeah, I do. Mat will come out every year, as do the towels and tea towels. We also have Christmas bedding, two of the singles came from a charity shop and the third from a free page. I have a new one as we have a new SK bed, but it will be used every year.

In the grand scheme of things, these are just items that get used a few weeks a year whilst our main ones have a little break.

We all have Christmas bedding. Which is used for the whole of December (taken off washed and dried in day) We've had the same sets for years. Same with Chistmas towels.
I also have a thick Christmas rug I bought in Costco about 10 years ago, which comes out every year.
They are all like new, so will last for years to come. It's they're used for years, I don't see the problem.

Topofthemountain · 26/11/2023 17:19

My tree is 20+ years old though, I would like a new bigger one, but then I see the price of them and don't bother.

Topofthemountain · 26/11/2023 17:13

I was shocked, however at the amount of tat in places like homebargains and B&M. Do people really have special Christmas bed sets and door mats?! Crazy!

Yeah, I do. Mat will come out every year, as do the towels and tea towels. We also have Christmas bedding, two of the singles came from a charity shop and the third from a free page. I have a new one as we have a new SK bed, but it will be used every year.

In the grand scheme of things, these are just items that get used a few weeks a year whilst our main ones have a little break.

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