Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Highly sensitive empath burn out

241 replies

Keepingscore · 23/11/2023 18:57

So, this is me and looking for opinions on how to manage this trait, especially at work. I work in the charity sector so whilst being empathic and a degree of sensitivity is good when supporting our users and their families it isn't so good working in a toxic team culture, my team members do not share my sensitivity or empathic approach.

It affects me to the point where I am not able to work in a room where there is a lot of negativity, gossip and narcissim. I find it draining. I appreciate we can't all work in positive environments but how do I get over this? it is getting me down and I am regularly burnt out.

This has always been an issue for me so indeed the less people I work with in a team or office the better i am. However this is not always possible, at least not in my field of work. I have pretty good boundaries and don't take on more work than is necessary, I look after my needs and generally say No when I don't want to do something.

Is there anybody who is also an empath/highly sensitive who can share some nuggets of wisdom?

OP posts:
Watchkeys · 23/11/2023 20:42

I think that you, like everybody else who is unusual (i.e. 'everybody') need to find somewhere to work that you like, with people you get on with, or where there aren't too many people, if people in general burn you out.

This isn't about 'tips and tricks for empaths'; this is learning that people who describe themselves as empaths are often people who are hyperaware, due to having been forced to stay in situations they weren't comfortable with, usually as children. It's about recognising that now, as an adult, you can walk away, rather than having to endlessly 'put up with' situations that upset you.

The world doesn't need to change for you, nor you for the world. You are responsible for finding where you fit in, though, so, if you're not comfortable, you need to change your circumstances, rather than yourself.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:42

Lex345 · 23/11/2023 20:38

I'm not sure true "empaths" exist, but I do think there are people with more empathetic traits that others.

If being an empath is a thing, I find it hard to understand how they would function, the world is so full of distressing news, it would be truly exhausting to not be able to ever switch off from that.

This was what I was referring to as empaths/hsp having coping strategies, where you have to force yourself to turn off to certain things/people/events, otherwise you'll implode (well not literally but hopefully you get my meaning).

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:40

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:36

This may well be true - it's unkind to tell anyone who claims to be an empath that 'they're actually a narcissist', as some here have done.

Well they’re not a bloody ‘empath’ either and it’s certainly unkind to validate such nonsense. No one can deny that some people can pick up on micro signals of emotions, but there are several ways of explaining this beyond ‘yes you are very special and sensitive and have a gift’.

LittleCrackers · 23/11/2023 20:39

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 23/11/2023 19:08

I find most who say that they are empaths, are highly self interested and don't actually see how they and their self interest/importance negatively affect others!

Agree with this.

There also tends to be a direct correlation with anti-vax types IMO.

MargaretThursday · 23/11/2023 20:39

What I want to know is how people know that they feel emotions more than other people. Rather than they make more of a fuss than other people who feel more but don't show it?
If someone can explain how they know this then maybe I'll take it more seriously as a diagnosis.

I mean it's like pain thresholds. Asked for pain out of 10, ds gave appendicitis 2; dd gave a paper cut a 8. I am certain that appendicitis is more painful, but they measure on a different scale.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:39

Catsmere · 23/11/2023 20:38

"Highly sensitive empath" aka "thin-skinned"?

Calling the others in the office narcissistic, and dismissing disagreement in the thread as being mean and nasty ... hmm.

Thin skinned? 🙄

Lex345 · 23/11/2023 20:38

I'm not sure true "empaths" exist, but I do think there are people with more empathetic traits that others.

If being an empath is a thing, I find it hard to understand how they would function, the world is so full of distressing news, it would be truly exhausting to not be able to ever switch off from that.

Catsmere · 23/11/2023 20:38

"Highly sensitive empath" aka "thin-skinned"?

Calling the others in the office narcissistic, and dismissing disagreement in the thread as being mean and nasty ... hmm.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:37

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:35

You describe yourself as an “empath” don’t you? 🙄🥱

Do you always answer an actual question with a diversory insult?
Are you qualified in any way to have made the initial assertion?

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:36

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 23/11/2023 20:19

Empaths and narcissists make it about themselves
It's like the far left and the far right. Hard to tell the difference

This may well be true - it's unkind to tell anyone who claims to be an empath that 'they're actually a narcissist', as some here have done.

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:35

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:34

Are you a qualified psychologist/psychiatrist/mental health expert?

You describe yourself as an “empath” don’t you? 🙄🥱

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:35

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:30

well, you’re clearly not empathetic at all.

maybe you need a crystal? 🥰

Quite the opposite actually. I pick up on the nuances of people’s emotions all the time. But I recognise that from a horribly abusive childhood which has made me in constant fear of negative emotions and makes me overly sensitive to ‘people pleasing’. I’m still working on unraveling all that, but at least I’ve take the healthiest route of facing why I’m like this and why it’s something I need to work on. Rather than assume I’m a special flower with magic feeling power 🙂. Or worse, be the sort of awful person who tries to convince others it’s some special ability that needs money spent on silly stones to fix.

Takenwithtea · 23/11/2023 20:34

While I'm sceptical about empaths being a thing, there are interesting things you could google about "cognitive" empathy and "affective" empathy that might be helpful. I read up on it years ago when trying to gain more understanding of autistic friends who described experiencing what I imagine is a more "affective" kind of empathy, where you yourself feel emotions others are expressing, as opposed to the more "cognitive" distance of imagining what someone might be feeling, without actually experiencing that emotion yourself.

Not sure I've explained that at all clearly! I think also what the pp above said about childhood abuse is often key. Also, noticing where the emotions are actually your own, perhaps due to past experiences, rather than really much to do with random gossipers or moaners in the workplace.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:34

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:32

I’m fairly confident that most people who describe themselves as an “empath” are really just narcissists. They want to be seen as special but are attention seekers.

There are people are are genuinely empathetic but they don’t make every situation about themselves.

Are you a qualified psychologist/psychiatrist/mental health expert?

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:34

Desecratedcoconut · 23/11/2023 20:15

Omg, unless you can read the mind of a passing Klingon ship and tell the captain to put up the shields in advance of an attack - you are not an Empath.

🤣👏🏼🤣👏🏼

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:32

I’m fairly confident that most people who describe themselves as an “empath” are really just narcissists. They want to be seen as special but are attention seekers.

There are people are are genuinely empathetic but they don’t make every situation about themselves.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:32

Greentomatic · 23/11/2023 20:31

I used to think I was an empath.

Turns out I had ASD (diagnosed)

Have a read around it, especially presentation in females.

I am also ASD.

still an empath

Greentomatic · 23/11/2023 20:31

I used to think I was an empath.

Turns out I had ASD (diagnosed)

Have a read around it, especially presentation in females.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:31

APocketOfGooseFood · 23/11/2023 20:26

Fuck me.

No thanks

i don’t eat goose food

LolaSmiles · 23/11/2023 20:31

See herein lies the problem. You've gone straight to 'everyone's being mean to me' rather than engaging with the points being made. Some people have been blunt but nobody's been nasty that I can see.
That's being 'highly sensitive' but not particularly 'empathetic'. They are not the same.
This is a 'you' problem, not a 'them' problem
I'm inclined to agree. It mirrors my experience of self-professed empaths as being permanently in victim mode.

I think PP make valid points about how many empaths are reimagining their poor emotional regulation as being an 'empath'. It's probably more comforting to consider oneself special, extra caring and super in tune and not like the ordinary people than it is to acknowledge poor emotional boundaries and/or a tendency to place oneself in permanent victim mode where nobody understands how hard it is being special.

If OP's work environment is actually toxic, she needs to leave. That's no different to anyone else who is hating working in a toxic environment.

It might be worth speaking to someone professionally though to get to the bottom of why any negativity in the workplace prompts such an intense response because otherwise this is going to follow OP in many workplaces.

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:31

Grimchmas · 23/11/2023 20:28

Yep, page one of the replies are exactly as I would expect mumsnetters to react to somebody saying they are a HSP/Empath.

This isn't the forum to talk about this really, people on MN just don't get it and understand as a rule.

You'll have more luck if you search Facebook for relevant groups.

Yea, don’t listen to critical thinking, find an echo chamber for your belief system rather than get some real help. Oh and spend £20 on some pretty stones that do absolutely fuck all.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:30

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:29

Actually, if someone really feels they are an empath or even very sensitive, then they HAVE to develop strategies which protect them from absorbing so much of everyone else's energy that they burn out and simply cannot function.

I also think there's been unnecessary unkindness on here - whether OP truly is an empath, highly sensitive or something else, for whatever reasons, she's clearly asking for advice and not trying to be superior in any way.

Edited

Absolutely this

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:30

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:25

Ah, of course the charlatans are money making off people who think they’re special…

well, you’re clearly not empathetic at all.

maybe you need a crystal? 🥰

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:29

WalkingThroughTreacle · 23/11/2023 20:27

Doesn't seem that you're that much of an empath then if you can simply switch off to opinions that don't suit you.

Actually, if someone really feels they are an empath or even very sensitive, then they HAVE to develop strategies which protect them from absorbing so much of everyone else's energy that they burn out and simply cannot function.

I also think there's been unnecessary unkindness on here - whether OP truly is an empath, highly sensitive or something else, for whatever reasons, she's clearly asking for advice and not trying to be superior in any way.

CaptainJ · 23/11/2023 20:29

Assuming you feel you find your work fulfilling and want to manage the stimuli in the short term:

Something I've found helpful have been mediation and sensory things: I keep silencers on (not the guns...) my earphones nearby. It's not a chatty office but I do like to keep my WFH habits when I'm in the office.

Other folk that I've learnt things from are Embodied Astrology Renee Sills who gives great guidance, visualisations and movement.
Here's one example (pretty grounding)

Another go to to help me keep my energy close is this 10 minute morning meditation

Giving yourself lots of space to break and move out of the space you are in - if you are a sensory person earphones, calming peppermint spritz, affirmations etc. All can help.

Longer term, maybe assess what the triggers are and if these are manageable, or movable for you. Have you felt like this in previous workspaces / teams? Otherwise what would the alternative be.

Being a Tree | Moon Days Somatic Space | Embodied Astrology

This Practice: Made From Star StuffFrom April 10th, 2023 Somatic Space with Renee SillsIt’s a good day to calibrate the frequencies of your imagination and a...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07vydWzprA

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.

Swipe left for the next trending thread