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Highly sensitive empath burn out

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Keepingscore · 23/11/2023 18:57

So, this is me and looking for opinions on how to manage this trait, especially at work. I work in the charity sector so whilst being empathic and a degree of sensitivity is good when supporting our users and their families it isn't so good working in a toxic team culture, my team members do not share my sensitivity or empathic approach.

It affects me to the point where I am not able to work in a room where there is a lot of negativity, gossip and narcissim. I find it draining. I appreciate we can't all work in positive environments but how do I get over this? it is getting me down and I am regularly burnt out.

This has always been an issue for me so indeed the less people I work with in a team or office the better i am. However this is not always possible, at least not in my field of work. I have pretty good boundaries and don't take on more work than is necessary, I look after my needs and generally say No when I don't want to do something.

Is there anybody who is also an empath/highly sensitive who can share some nuggets of wisdom?

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HappyMavis · 23/11/2023 20:56

Fascinating. Out of interest OP do you have an overbearing mother?

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:56

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:47

As I’ve said (and is being proven more and more on this thread), it’s likely someone who believes themselves to be an empath is simply just autistic. And as definitely been proven by one or two here, they cannot seem to understand the emotional response factor of their autism. It is not a separate entity of being ‘an empath’, it’s still just autistic traits of emotional processing difficulties.

Suggesting a person may be autistic, if done in a sensitive way, is a lot more helpful and kind than suggesting they are a narcissist. I don't think all hsp/empaths are necessarily autistic, but there is definitely overlap in the issues that can arise.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:56

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:48

Maybe you need more crystals… 🤔

I’m good thanks 💅🏻

MillarMountVandal · 23/11/2023 20:55

I've only ever encountered one person who labelled themself an 'empath' and, in common with the experiences of PP's, she was a pompous pain in the arse. She was incredibly self piteous (thus habitually unhappy) and judgemental (the antithesis of empathy!).

Most of us have the odd scuzzy aspect to our character, life is easier when you accept that without judgement.

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 23/11/2023 20:55

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:31

Yea, don’t listen to critical thinking, find an echo chamber for your belief system rather than get some real help. Oh and spend £20 on some pretty stones that do absolutely fuck all.

I once accidentally touched someone's crystals they'd left in shared kitchen at halls, of course they had a chilled, relaxed reaction...

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:54

LittleCrackers · 23/11/2023 20:39

Agree with this.

There also tends to be a direct correlation with anti-vax types IMO.

Just had my flu jab, my 5th Covid jab and all my babies are fully vaxxed

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 23/11/2023 20:54

I've always been of the belief that empaths are just neurodivergent.

Either through past trauma or through autism and being hyper empathetic.

In which case I would treat the burnout the same way I would treat autistic burnout, and take the same steps to preventing it in future. If you haven't considered it before I would consider seeking a diagnosis even if the wait lists are long in your area, just so you can get your medical letter to say you are on the wait list as evidence for work.

First, time off. Second, loop ear plugs. Third, reasonable adjustment request where you ask for additional breaks when you're overwhelmed, perhaps work in a smaller team, different part of the office, or more work from home time, or even shorter hours.

You need to distance yourself away from the cause of the negativity.

It may be that the line of work you are in inhibits you from distancing yourself from it so I would consider a new line of work in that instance, and look at retraining options.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:53

Lex345 · 23/11/2023 20:45

Interesting-but I think everyone has coping strategies to cope with situations and events that they find distressing-from a strict definition stand point, an empath would find it impossible to "switch off" or "tune out" wouldn't they?

Most very sensitive people (incl empaths in that if you believe they exist) have to force themselves to learn how be less sensitive/turn off, because they've seen what happens when they don't. Different things work for different people, and of course we all develop coping strategies to some extent.

bonzaitree · 23/11/2023 20:52

Listen to positive / upbeat / relaxing tunes all day (if possible). Get out and have a walk in your dinner hour.

mugofstew · 23/11/2023 20:50

doesnt change that im an empath

What do you believe that being an Empath means?

ghostyslovesheets · 23/11/2023 20:50

I mean I don't think 'empaths' are a thing (unless, as some one said, they are on Star Trek) but I am empathetic - and honestly OP you need to toughen up that skin asap.

I care very much about the people I work with and support, it's a passion that keeps me in my job, but I work in a multi agency way and often come across people who care a lot less or who just disagree with me! You have to learn to work with others including those who have different views.

You also need (in many cases within charity/social work) to drop the hero complex - you just can't save/help everyone the most you can probably do is make a tiny difference to a shit life - you make that difference as impactful as possible but never imagine you can solve everything or save everyone, not matter how empathetic you are - that's where the burn out lies.

As an 'empath' I am surprised you aren't more tuned into your co workers feelings and experiences - because they sound cynical and burnt out as well - yet to you they are all 'bad people' and you are 'the good' one - that's not healthy.

PosterBoy · 23/11/2023 20:49

It's almost a type of self harming behaviour to work in the field you are in if you are so affected by others emotions. I certainly wouldn't see it as a plus - for you or the people you support. See also high levels of burnout in other caring professions that attract people who can't boundary their emotions but work in a highly stressful environment.

Try accountancy, book keeping, librarianship, science, anything with less emotional inputs.

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:48

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:43

What? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

im sure the people who come to me for help don’t think I make it all about me… quite the opposite. I get burn out from it.

Maybe you need more crystals… 🤔

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:47

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:44

It's unkind, and a big jump, to go from not believing someone is an empath to suggesting they are a narcissist. They could be neither, or have something else painful going on.

As I’ve said (and is being proven more and more on this thread), it’s likely someone who believes themselves to be an empath is simply just autistic. And as definitely been proven by one or two here, they cannot seem to understand the emotional response factor of their autism. It is not a separate entity of being ‘an empath’, it’s still just autistic traits of emotional processing difficulties.

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:47

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:42

🤣 Hilarious that you now think the term empath is an insult.

Go and read the whole thread rather than trying to pick a fight with me.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, merely wondering if you're qualified to make the assertion you made.
Also my reference to insult was the use of your little emojis in your 'question'.

cardibach · 23/11/2023 20:46

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 23/11/2023 19:08

I find most who say that they are empaths, are highly self interested and don't actually see how they and their self interest/importance negatively affect others!

I used to have a friend who said she was soooo sensitive that everything was harder for her. Seemed to be because she would openly cry whereas I felt things just as deeply but kept my feelings private. She also definitely felt her ‘sensitivity’ made her a better person. Nope. Just someone who made everything all about her.

Catsmere · 23/11/2023 20:45

Getting burned out from being in a helping role - especially if it's a relentless one - doesn't mean anyone's an empath, or special, or highly sensitive. It means they're a normal human being who can get ground down by this stuff.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:45

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:35

Quite the opposite actually. I pick up on the nuances of people’s emotions all the time. But I recognise that from a horribly abusive childhood which has made me in constant fear of negative emotions and makes me overly sensitive to ‘people pleasing’. I’m still working on unraveling all that, but at least I’ve take the healthiest route of facing why I’m like this and why it’s something I need to work on. Rather than assume I’m a special flower with magic feeling power 🙂. Or worse, be the sort of awful person who tries to convince others it’s some special ability that needs money spent on silly stones to fix.

Horribly abusive ex husband, also a people pleaser

doesnt change that im an empath

just because you don’t ’believe’ doesn’t mean it’s not true

TheRealLilyMunster · 23/11/2023 20:45

Get a new job. In the meantime, try to rise above it and not take it personally, and don't get involved in the drama.

I manage an office full of women who are never happy and constantly complain and backstab each other. It's like being sat with the Dementors from Harry Potter, sucking my soul out all day long.

Life's too short for that shit!

LolaSmiles · 23/11/2023 20:45

Nonoatchristmas
I take my hat off to you for starting to unravel your experiences and find a way forward. I can imagine that's quite a complex package to unpack.

Lex345 · 23/11/2023 20:45

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:42

This was what I was referring to as empaths/hsp having coping strategies, where you have to force yourself to turn off to certain things/people/events, otherwise you'll implode (well not literally but hopefully you get my meaning).

Interesting-but I think everyone has coping strategies to cope with situations and events that they find distressing-from a strict definition stand point, an empath would find it impossible to "switch off" or "tune out" wouldn't they?

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:44

Nonoatchristmas · 23/11/2023 20:40

Well they’re not a bloody ‘empath’ either and it’s certainly unkind to validate such nonsense. No one can deny that some people can pick up on micro signals of emotions, but there are several ways of explaining this beyond ‘yes you are very special and sensitive and have a gift’.

It's unkind, and a big jump, to go from not believing someone is an empath to suggesting they are a narcissist. They could be neither, or have something else painful going on.

Sauvblanctime · 23/11/2023 20:43

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:32

I’m fairly confident that most people who describe themselves as an “empath” are really just narcissists. They want to be seen as special but are attention seekers.

There are people are are genuinely empathetic but they don’t make every situation about themselves.

What? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

im sure the people who come to me for help don’t think I make it all about me… quite the opposite. I get burn out from it.

sparklefresh · 23/11/2023 20:42

@Winederlust has a very sensible take on this.

Meowandthen · 23/11/2023 20:42

sollenwir · 23/11/2023 20:37

Do you always answer an actual question with a diversory insult?
Are you qualified in any way to have made the initial assertion?

🤣 Hilarious that you now think the term empath is an insult.

Go and read the whole thread rather than trying to pick a fight with me.

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