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Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 16:21

I need to know if I’m being unreasonable.

I work in a demanding environment, a very stressful environment with an assistant manager and a manager.

The assistant manager came into our work place 4 months ago, initially we hit it off and got along well. They opened up to me about themselves and everything was great.

However over the last 4 months, this assistant manager has snapped at and shouted at myself, and other members of staff including throwing items down in crates while stomping or storming off.

Aggression towards clients, to the point they’ve argued with paying clients for the business in front of others.

Inappropriate relationship with a team member who’s role is way below theirs, the team member tried to end things amicability and they’ve become obsessed to the point of trying to physically hurt this person at work accidentally on purpose, tried causing a pile on with other members of staff, with open bitching, belittling of said team member, shouting at said team member and harassing them after work as in sat down staring them out.

Im lost on what to do because this person has declared to myself and others that they are autistic, and suffer with being over stimulated.

I’ve tried raising concerns with my direct manager and nothing has been done, it’s getting to the point where I dread coming to work due to the atmosphere and being snapped at, shouted at and spoken to passively aggressively throughout my working day.

Can someone try and help me understand if I’m being unreasonable in thinking that there’s no excuse for this behaviour and they shouldn’t be enabled or excused for doing it? Or is it reasonable in that this is reactive behaviour of someone who doesn’t understand their environment correctly ?

Yes I’ve gone to HR, the problem has still remained.

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DPotter · 29/12/2023 18:19

In your shoes I would be moving heaven and earth to get a new job in the New year. Clearly this employer is incompetent - but this doesn't mean you to have accept being treated in this way, by anyone.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 29/12/2023 18:06

Oh dear - let's hope with compelling evidence someth8 g is done. Life can be pretty shit when work is shit

Beyourself1 · 28/12/2023 22:10

A major incident happened which resulted in me reporting them to my direct manager and they had a cosy chat with them to ensure that they never did it again, and that this person was under extreme stress which was a lie.

It hasn’t been resolved and it’s only gotten worse in just gathering evidence now to report to the higher ups

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 25/12/2023 16:00

Did the problem ever resolve? Can you video/record them in full abusive mode?

pinguins · 19/11/2023 20:30

Doggymummar · 19/11/2023 17:32

Sounds like retail , or a pub. I would be getting a doctor's report to test they do really have autism and deal with it from there, special amendments to the workplace etc. autism awareness training for rest of staff etc

🤣🤣🤣
A doctor's report... to test if they have autism.

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

It takes about 8 hours and you'd need a qualified specialist psychiatrist. Average cost is over £1000. But clearly OP just has that down the back of her sofa and can also get this individual to cooperate with being "tested for autism" LMAO.

No wonder people think "everyone has autism these days" if they think a GP can just listen to your chest, weigh you, and diagnose it. 🤣 See also: ADHD.

rwalker · 19/11/2023 19:50

You need to go down the formal route
with documented information
it would be done better if it was done collectively

formally make your manager awa your struggling to work with them

FarEast · 19/11/2023 19:44

You can be disabled, and still be an arsehole.

Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 19:22

@Wonderously No it isn’t a large chain

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Wonderously · 19/11/2023 19:20

Is it a large chain?

Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 17:58

Sorry I missed who asked I work in a hotel

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Wonderously · 19/11/2023 17:44

id be writing to the head of the organisation listing these incidents and the lack of HR/manager resolution.

Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 17:43

@Saschka like I’ve previously explained certain people on our team join in and are snipey, aggressive and openly bitchy in our work environment on the back of this persons behaviour. I have gone over their head which like others have suggested I now need to raise a grievance.

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Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 17:41

All support that has been offered to this person has been rejected, they won’t accept any help.

Even when I’ve been working with them, if I’ve needed to help out or assist they’ve stormed off while I’ve been mid explanation or assisting.

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Saschka · 19/11/2023 17:41

Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 17:25

Okay it’s nerve wracking doing this but a grievance is the way forward, I’m worried they are going to freeze me out with certain other team members like they’ve done to the person they were briefly seeing. That person is too scared to talk out against her in work due to how aggressive and obsessive she’s been towards them.

You have this one bonkers employee. How frozen out can you be? Nobody else is going to join her in freezing you out. She might start blanking you herself, but is that better or worse than her screaming at you? Just go over her head if you need anything.

Mumofazoo · 19/11/2023 17:37

As an employee with autism and bipolar disorder, autism is not an excuse for being a dick.

SmudgeButt · 19/11/2023 17:32

I agree that being autistic does not excuse bad behaviour. The company might help the individual organise some sort of behaviour modification therapy but ultimately if someone cannot do a job and they alienate both staff and clients they need to go.

Some people will suggest this is discrimination but it isn't if it is handled appropriately. Obviously no one is going to say "you're fired because you're autistic" but will need to log the patterns of behaviour that are disrupting business.

Doggymummar · 19/11/2023 17:32

Sounds like retail , or a pub. I would be getting a doctor's report to test they do really have autism and deal with it from there, special amendments to the workplace etc. autism awareness training for rest of staff etc

Nopenott0day · 19/11/2023 17:30

Autism isn't an excuse to be a knob head. I'm fed up of it been used as a reason for poor behaviour. We still know right from wrong.

Wonderously · 19/11/2023 17:29

What’s your line of work

Wonderously · 19/11/2023 17:28

Is there a regulating body for your place of work?

Formal complaint to HR listing all incidents.

Report anything reportable to the police.

join a union and get them to act

Look at the legislation around safety at work https://www.hse.gov.uk/violence/employer/reporting-learning-from-incidents.htm

yes autism is a disability which is a protected characteristic but people with autism have to abide by the laws everyone else has to abide to

what support is the assistant manager being offered https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/professional-practice/probation-support

Violence and aggression at work - Reporting and learning from incidents

https://www.hse.gov.uk/violence/employer/reporting-learning-from-incidents.htm

Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 17:27

@CuriousGeorge80 we don’t have a hotline ☹️

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CuriousGeorge80 · 19/11/2023 17:27

I would raise a whistleblowing complaint if you have a hotline?

Beyourself1 · 19/11/2023 17:25

Okay it’s nerve wracking doing this but a grievance is the way forward, I’m worried they are going to freeze me out with certain other team members like they’ve done to the person they were briefly seeing. That person is too scared to talk out against her in work due to how aggressive and obsessive she’s been towards them.

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Fallenangelofthenorth · 19/11/2023 17:22

Your company will have to address this. It's already affecting the team as well as most likely costing them clients too.

Definitely raise a grievance. You shouldn't have to leave, but I can see why you would if this is how they handle toxic behaviour.

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