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Rwanda vs Palestine

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jgw1 · 15/11/2023 12:41

Have I understood correctly that the UK government is spending more on not sending refugees to Rwanda than on helping displaced people in Palestine?

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usernamealreadytaken · 16/11/2023 15:22

VeniVidiWeeWee · 16/11/2023 00:18

What happened to the Picts?

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I'm fairly certain they were subsumed in to Gaelic Scotland - perhaps they might rediscover themselves and attack the highlands to reclaim their territory? Not sure what that has to do with Hamas terrorists attacking Jews though.

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jgw1 · 16/11/2023 06:47

Trulywonderful · 15/11/2023 22:31

Surely you could just start a thread about Rwanda if you want to talk about that. However obviously you don't this is just another thread letting everyone know you think the government should do more for Gaza etc

I might start a thread with the title:

LEGOLAND VS PALESTINE

because the two situations have about the same amount in common as OPs title

I look forward to reading the contributions to your thread.

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VeniVidiWeeWee · 16/11/2023 00:18

usernamealreadytaken · 15/11/2023 22:52

Because obviously Jewish people had no right to live somewhere they’d been in for a couple of thousand years 🙄

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What happened to the Picts?

ShadowCipher · 15/11/2023 23:53

jgw1 · 15/11/2023 21:29

I am pretty sure the only problem those in the government are interested in solving is how they remain in power for as long as possible. Unfortunately rather a lot of the UK population have cottoned on to how little they have done for the country in the last 13 years and so would like the opportunity to vote them out.

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good luck with the perspective of the general population voting in a different party,

Wintersgirl · 15/11/2023 23:12

Because obviously Jewish people had no right to live somewhere they’d been in for a couple of thousand years

You didn't read what I posted, a previous poster said Palestine had nothing to do with Britain, I was pointing out that it actually has a great deal to do with us...

Shouldimove · 15/11/2023 23:07

Dotjones · 15/11/2023 13:31

Well the Rwanda plan is to solve a pressing issue that is on our doorstep. Palestine is nothing to do with us, it's bloody miles away and contrary to popular belief it's not "our fault" there's a big fight going on there. We were forced to take control after WWI due to the collapse of the Ottoman empire. The US, Jews and Arabs didn't agree with the way we were running the region (the Jews and Arabs both killing our people) so we passed control to the UN with the requirement to find a solution that satisfied all sides. They didn't, and it's a mess now.

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JayAlfredPrufrock · 15/11/2023 23:04

Critical thinking is sadly failing.

Trulywonderful · 15/11/2023 23:03

cestlavielife · 15/11/2023 22:58

War and conflict will lead to many more people wanting to flee and seek asylum.
Solve immigration by stopping war, conflict, poverty elsewhere....

You are too logical I am afraid. Definitely wouldn't make a good politician

cestlavielife · 15/11/2023 22:58

War and conflict will lead to many more people wanting to flee and seek asylum.
Solve immigration by stopping war, conflict, poverty elsewhere....

usernamealreadytaken · 15/11/2023 22:52

Wintersgirl · 15/11/2023 21:56

Palestine is nothing to do with us,

It has actually......

Balfour declaration by the British government in 1917 in support of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine and the ensuing conflicts with Arab communities there.

Because obviously Jewish people had no right to live somewhere they’d been in for a couple of thousand years 🙄

Trulywonderful · 15/11/2023 22:31

Surely you could just start a thread about Rwanda if you want to talk about that. However obviously you don't this is just another thread letting everyone know you think the government should do more for Gaza etc

I might start a thread with the title:

LEGOLAND VS PALESTINE

because the two situations have about the same amount in common as OPs title

JayAlfredPrufrock · 15/11/2023 22:26

In other news, I’m popping to the fridge for a top up

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Stomacharmeleon · 15/11/2023 22:24

I didn't say that I did. I wish they would process people in Calais's so they didn't need to get in a boat in the first place.

I think people do care though particularly the voters for the conservative party. I do think that by making this all about the daily mail you are discrediting their legitimate concerns. It will effect how they vote hence the pledges.

Not everything is an attack. I am just saying.....

Wintersgirl · 15/11/2023 21:56

Palestine is nothing to do with us,

It has actually......

Balfour declaration by the British government in 1917 in support of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine and the ensuing conflicts with Arab communities there.

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jgw1 · 15/11/2023 21:46

Stomacharmeleon · 15/11/2023 21:36

People may disagree on here but jo public particularly voting Jo public think that small boats and immigration is an issue. And they would like something done about it.
Both sides of the political spectrum know it needs to be sorted. We know the Tory route.... I have to honest I am unsure what labours is.
We need open dialogue about immigration and how to move forward. Processing in Calais etc?

Less than 1/3 of those surveyed by yougov in a September survey placed immigration in the top 3 most important issues facing the UK.

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Perfect28 · 15/11/2023 21:43

@Stomacharmeleon where is the evidence that this is a big issue for people? Then prove that it was a big issue for people before the conservatives and the daily mail started making it a big issue.

Stomacharmeleon · 15/11/2023 21:36

People may disagree on here but jo public particularly voting Jo public think that small boats and immigration is an issue. And they would like something done about it.
Both sides of the political spectrum know it needs to be sorted. We know the Tory route.... I have to honest I am unsure what labours is.
We need open dialogue about immigration and how to move forward. Processing in Calais etc?

MissyB1 · 15/11/2023 21:33

missmollygreen · 15/11/2023 20:47

Illegal immigration

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Nope! They reckon only about 100 of the present asylum seekers would meet the criteria. The numbers per year would be peanuts. And it won’t deter anyone. It’s a gimmick.

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jgw1 · 15/11/2023 21:29

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 15/11/2023 21:09

Well the Rwanda plan is to solve a pressing issue that is on our doorstep.

I don't believe that anyone in government thinks for one minute that it will actually solve any kind of problem.

I am pretty sure the only problem those in the government are interested in solving is how they remain in power for as long as possible. Unfortunately rather a lot of the UK population have cottoned on to how little they have done for the country in the last 13 years and so would like the opportunity to vote them out.

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jgw1 · 15/11/2023 21:28

missmollygreen · 15/11/2023 21:03

Well I said Illegal...
But you would have to ask someone in the government that question

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For the avoidance of doubt all asylum seekers are legal at the point they seek asylum.

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CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 15/11/2023 21:09

Well the Rwanda plan is to solve a pressing issue that is on our doorstep.

I don't believe that anyone in government thinks for one minute that it will actually solve any kind of problem.

missmollygreen · 15/11/2023 21:03

jgw1 · 15/11/2023 20:48

How does sending perfectly legal asylum seekers to Rwanda solve that?

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Well I said Illegal...
But you would have to ask someone in the government that question

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jgw1 · 15/11/2023 20:48

missmollygreen · 15/11/2023 20:47

Illegal immigration

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How does sending perfectly legal asylum seekers to Rwanda solve that?

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missmollygreen · 15/11/2023 20:47

jgw1 · 15/11/2023 20:41

What pressing issue is it solving?

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Illegal immigration