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Dave is Back!!!

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LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 10:00

Dave Cameron is back in the cabinet…. desperate throw of the dice or inspired move to limit the inevitable defeat?

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MaggieFS · 13/11/2023 13:21

IslandsInTheSunshine · 13/11/2023 11:37

Is there anyone on Mumsnet who dares to say they are a Conservative?

(That's not to say they approve of all they do.)

Never appears that way when the Left pile in on these threads.

Happy to say I used to be a Tory. Not sure what I am now. Certainly not a fan of Sunak who was always pro-Brexit.

I was hopeful when he came in (behind a low base with Johnson and Truss, of course), but he's been ineffective.

jgw1 · 13/11/2023 13:20

lovescats3 · 13/11/2023 13:16

4 junior ministers have quit which is interesting

If they quit now they can do nothing for 6 months and then when they lose their seats in a May GE go straight into another job, whereas if they stayed as ministers until the GE they would have to wait 6 months before they could lobby the remenants of the Tory party.

lovescats3 · 13/11/2023 13:19

Shows at least they have some common sense!

MotherofPearl · 13/11/2023 13:18

roarrfeckingroar · 13/11/2023 10:01

I'm glad to see him. I'm a long time Tory voter but of the centrist liberal variety, not the recent mess.

There are no liberal centrist Tories left. The Tories are now the party of the far-right. Sunak has just committed electoral suicide (not that I care, as a non-Tory).

HamstersAreMyLife · 13/11/2023 13:18

MrsHarrisAParis · 13/11/2023 12:34

If you were going to bring back a name from the past (currently unelected since it doesn't seem to matter) which Tory would you make Foreign Sec?
It seems like an esoteric Buzzfeed quiz.
Personally I'd have brought back Rory Stewart. He, at least, has years of experience in the Middle East.

Dominic Grieve, sensible man

sherloc · 13/11/2023 13:17

Cruella out.
James Cleverly (pro Ukraine) Foreign Sec becomes Home Sec so harder to blame immigration, border force and the police for racism.
Chillaxed Dave as Foreign Sec, can't be grilled in the HoC. Abandons Ukraine (Boris and James C were drivers), does Donald Trump's peace deal - albeit in rather more than 24 hours - UK and US taxpayers save a fortune, inflation and interest rates drop, Tories and Democrats retain power in 2024.
As mad as Nad, or a possibility?

lovescats3 · 13/11/2023 13:16

4 junior ministers have quit which is interesting

KingscoteStaff · 13/11/2023 13:16

Look, look look at this shiny new appointment!!!!

Don't look over there at that nasty former cabinet Minister...

MotherofPearl · 13/11/2023 13:16

lovescats3 · 13/11/2023 13:14

So the architect of the shit show of austerity and Brexit is back, we truly are in a banana republic now

Exactly.

lovescats3 · 13/11/2023 13:14

So the architect of the shit show of austerity and Brexit is back, we truly are in a banana republic now

ButDaddyILoveHim · 13/11/2023 13:14

PeaceBreaksOut · 13/11/2023 12:58

Rory Stewart's reasonably keen on Rishi as a person I think. They're in very different places on some policy areas though.

I think the next couple of episodes of The Rest Is Politics will be very interesting! Rory's most recent book was politely scathing about Call Me Dave...

RedToothBrush · 13/11/2023 13:13

Wheresthebeach · 13/11/2023 12:51

I guess Rory Stuart wouldn't touch this lot with a barge pole.

Astonishing. Desperate.

Well David Cameron wasn't an MP, he was at least a Tory Party Member.

Rory Stewart is no longer a member of the Tory Party so I think bringing him back might have been a step too far.

TrashedSofa · 13/11/2023 13:11

Pigeon31 · 13/11/2023 12:39

I probably would have left Cleverly at Foreign Sec and appointed Theresa May as Home Sec.

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I kind of wonder whether May would've accepted. She seems to be quite enjoying herself on the backbenches.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 13:10

Israeli ambassador has just X'd (formerly twitter) pointing out the 1962 and 1994 pork laws

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 13:02

Therese Coffey gone ?

So this is the dream team that Rish! is setting up as the Tories election machine. Res ipsa loquitur as Boris might say.

MrsHarrisAParis · 13/11/2023 13:01

I don't like that he's unelected and I don't like the lack of accountability but I have a sneaking admiration for the tacit admission that the current shower of Tories are so bloody awful that they have to go back to the vaults to find someone.
Although I am concerned and slightly uneasy about what it means is going to happen next from an UK/Middle East diplomacy pov.

Hippobot · 13/11/2023 12:59

Stroopwaffels · 13/11/2023 10:46

I think it's an inspired move by Rishi. What with Ukraine and the Middle East, he needed someone with experience and who is a known face to international leaders. Think what you like of his politics, but he has that credibility on an international stage.

đŸ˜‚the man has zero credibility on an international stage. A cursory glance at some international newspapers during his premiership would tell you that. He turned the UK into a laughing stock in the eyes of the world. Look at the instability he caused in Europe with Brexit and the damage he caused in Libya. His track record is appalling, from the bedroom tax to tax evasion. Perhaps he'll encourage Rishi to revive The Big Society đŸ™„-- was such a suscceful slogan last time whilst the gulf between rich and poor grew astronomically.

PeaceBreaksOut · 13/11/2023 12:58

Rory Stewart's reasonably keen on Rishi as a person I think. They're in very different places on some policy areas though.

Wheresthebeach · 13/11/2023 12:51

I guess Rory Stuart wouldn't touch this lot with a barge pole.

Astonishing. Desperate.

newnamethanks · 13/11/2023 12:47

At least its knocked Cruella's press coverage down. She must be very disappointed. That's good.

Flyhigher · 13/11/2023 12:45

He's disgusting and took us into Brexit. And he's not even elected. This govt is a disgrace. Imagine if Labour tried this on.

This country is a tin pot shambles. How can anyone vote Tory. How can anyone think this is ok. .

MrsHarrisAParis · 13/11/2023 12:44

BloodyHellKen · 13/11/2023 12:38

That's a good point. I think RS could be very good. Maybe he doesn't want the job though?

TBH I'd rather get paid for having a chat with Alistair Campbell once a week than joining the current govt.

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I really dislike Alistair Campbell but For Sec in the current climate and with no accountability to the Commons feels like such a poisoned chalice, it would be a difficult decision to call.

TropDrĂ´le · 13/11/2023 12:42

It's like taking of your underwear, turning it inside out and putting it back on again.

I'm not British, nor live in the UK so from outside, it looks equally perplexing as it is for all of you.

Pigeon31 · 13/11/2023 12:39

MrsHarrisAParis · 13/11/2023 12:34

If you were going to bring back a name from the past (currently unelected since it doesn't seem to matter) which Tory would you make Foreign Sec?
It seems like an esoteric Buzzfeed quiz.
Personally I'd have brought back Rory Stewart. He, at least, has years of experience in the Middle East.

I probably would have left Cleverly at Foreign Sec and appointed Theresa May as Home Sec.

Hippobot · 13/11/2023 12:38

Bunnycat101 · 13/11/2023 10:20

I don’t get what’s in it for him though? He seemed to have a nice life with his shepherds hut. Why come back for a year unless he thinks he can win the next election. I bet Sam Cam is furious.

Guaranteed income and prowess for life as an unelected Lord. That's what is in it for him.