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Dave is Back!!!

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LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 10:00

Dave Cameron is back in the cabinet…. desperate throw of the dice or inspired move to limit the inevitable defeat?

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baroqueandblue · 13/11/2023 20:35

Feels like we're in a time/mind warp (and not in a good way) đŸ¤¯

Throwhandsupintheair · 13/11/2023 20:15

It tells us a hell of a lot that Sunak could not find one half decent person in his entire group of 350 MPs to be Foreign Secretary for about 6 months until a general election. That is how bad this lot are. A bunch of crazy headbangers.

He’s now brought in grifter Cameron so they can pretend they are more moderate and hang on for a few more months whilst they rob the country fucking blind. They will strip us bare and salt the earth before the next administration comes in.

Throwhandsupintheair · 13/11/2023 20:08

He started the chain of event ls that brought us here.

It was his unnecessary austerity which caused misery and decimated our public services, rendering them unable to cope during Covid. Many were plunged in to poverty.

Then he blamed the EU for causing all of this.

Then he held a referendum that has driven the entire country to poverty and turned us into an international laughing stock run by crazy people. He skipped off to a shepherd hut whistling before grifting for Greensill.

People like Braverman, Cummings, 30p Lee, Rees Mogg, Sunak, Coffey, Truss would never have come close to the positions of power they held, if it wasn’t for him.

This is a desperate attempt to woo blue wall remainers. It’s too late. We’ve been abused for too long in despair whilst watching our country circle the plug hole by nihilists for the amusement of other cheerleading nihilists who pretend they’re patriots. Fuck him and fuck the Tory party.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 13/11/2023 19:18

I was shocked to see him back also and so were lots of people. Cannot be much worse than the likes of Liz Truss or some of those there now. Be interesting to see how it all plays out. I just keep thinking of the time he left his child in the pub and forgot the child....

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 18:52

I've just seen Rishi Sunak described as "weak enough to qualify as a homeopathic remedy" Grin

Naldas · 13/11/2023 18:46

If David Cameron is your solution then you really are in trouble.

Pebbles16 · 13/11/2023 18:39

And how much botox has Dave had?!!
@verdantverdure I agree with you
this is so much nonsense that I am even more ashamed of our government party

Spinnymop · 13/11/2023 18:05

The old bait and switch..

"Yeah, Cruellas gone!"

<David Cameron pulls up to number 10>

"Oh, fuck me"

Even Eastenders couldn't write it.

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 17:57

It "rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic", "tell us most of the 350 Tory MPs can't be trusted with responsibility" desperate stuff.

And it's undemocratic.

Time we had a General Election I think.

BIossomtoes · 13/11/2023 17:23

Motheranddaughter · 13/11/2023 17:20

It is an affront to democracy
Shows how desperate the Tories are

They’ve been affronting democracy for years. Remember proroguing Parliament? Ennobling the revolting David Frost? Introducing compulsory voter ID? They’d make elections illegal if they could get away with it.

Motheranddaughter · 13/11/2023 17:20

It is an affront to democracy
Shows how desperate the Tories are

jgw1 · 13/11/2023 17:15

Daphnis156 · 13/11/2023 17:14

To see that smug, fat, shiny face again, after all the mess he left. NO!
I suppose it'll be that dumbcluck George Osborne next.

I must say dumbcluck is an excellent description of George Osborne, I might if it is ok, borrow it.

Daphnis156 · 13/11/2023 17:14

To see that smug, fat, shiny face again, after all the mess he left. NO!
I suppose it'll be that dumbcluck George Osborne next.

LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 16:21

newnamethanks · 13/11/2023 16:08

I'm concerned that Dave will be having talks as FS that MPs can't question him about. I'm not sure that's ideal for UK given the state of things in the world.

In fairness, the Speaker is currently looking at ways the Foreign Secretary can be held to account by MPs, and there are a few options on the table. Lord Carrington was Foreign Secretary during the early part of Mrs Thatcher’s period in office, and I think Peter Mandelson was a Lord when he came back as Business Secretary under Gordon Brown.

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AutumnCrow · 13/11/2023 16:14

newnamethanks · 13/11/2023 16:08

I'm concerned that Dave will be having talks as FS that MPs can't question him about. I'm not sure that's ideal for UK given the state of things in the world.

The Speaker is apparently taking advice about this. But I'm not sure what Lindsey Hoyle has in mind.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 16:13

newnamethanks · 13/11/2023 16:08

I'm concerned that Dave will be having talks as FS that MPs can't question him about. I'm not sure that's ideal for UK given the state of things in the world.

If you wanted to unwind some of the more lunatic elements of Brexit in private, it's hard to think of a better way.

Personally I very much doubt that's the reason But it is enormous fun to float it as an idea past the Brexiteers and see them descend into apoplexy (a word we don't use enough these days)

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 16:11

Labour need to bring in PR then.

Mysteriously winning governments forget they ever suggested that.

newnamethanks · 13/11/2023 16:08

I'm concerned that Dave will be having talks as FS that MPs can't question him about. I'm not sure that's ideal for UK given the state of things in the world.

User135644 · 13/11/2023 16:03

jgw1 · 13/11/2023 15:54

Whether the Tories every govern again depends upon who they elect as their next leader. If they go for Braverman or another ERG member then they may well be finished as a serious political force.

We said that when they were appointing the likes of IDS and Howard after the 1997 drubbing. When it comes down to it they'll do anything for power. They'll let Labour have their turn, have an internal crisis and then do whatever it takes to win.

But if PR came in then they're finished as a political force.

jgw1 · 13/11/2023 15:54

User135644 · 13/11/2023 15:51

Labour need to bring in PR then. It's the only way to stop the Tories destroying another generation when they're next back in when Labour inevitably run out of steam.

You can't have one party in too long, whether it's Labour or the Tories.

Whether the Tories every govern again depends upon who they elect as their next leader. If they go for Braverman or another ERG member then they may well be finished as a serious political force.

User135644 · 13/11/2023 15:51

BloodyHellKen · 13/11/2023 14:35

But last time Labour were in power they lasted 3 terms under Tony Blair and then had definitely run out of steam by the time they were (deservedly) voted out in 2010

Labour need to bring in PR then. It's the only way to stop the Tories destroying another generation when they're next back in when Labour inevitably run out of steam.

You can't have one party in too long, whether it's Labour or the Tories.

DontListenToWhatYouveConsumed · 13/11/2023 15:51

@jgw1 that would just be so sad ......
My heart bleeds purple pish
D "pig molester" C, Rishi "spineless twonk" Sunak and the rest of the Tories can fuck themselves.
I'm done with the lot of them.
I'm another voting 'homeless ' atm.
Starmer has as much charisma as a slug I once stood on. But slugs politics were clearer (not the reason I stood on the slug).
The UK is definitely sliding slowly into Hades.......

jgw1 · 13/11/2023 15:41

Westfacing · 13/11/2023 14:16

Has Nad revealed who Dr No is? I can't keep up.

I'm worried that her book is going to so out of date by the time it is published next week it will just have to be pulped.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 14:55

AutumnCrow · 13/11/2023 14:51

I wonder if Sunak was threatening to walk, and the Party gave him Cameron to steady the ship and do all the work. Or something.

He hasn't the spine. This is much more likely to have been "suggested" to him. In much the same way the Windsor framework was. By someone who isn't a completely tone-deaf, self obsessed, narcissistic headbanger. Which means someone outside the Tory party.

Mind you, as I have just thought. If Cameron can comeback, then so can Prince Andrew. Maybe he's the new Children's minister ?

Eleganz · 13/11/2023 14:54

Well if ever there was a sign that the bottom of the barrel has been well and truly scraped through.

I do wonder if we'll see the letters of no confidence start rolling in from the Tory right.