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Dave is Back!!!

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LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 10:00

Dave Cameron is back in the cabinet…. desperate throw of the dice or inspired move to limit the inevitable defeat?

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Smileycup · 13/11/2023 10:29

KimberleyClark · 13/11/2023 10:07

Fucked a pig’s head and responsible for Brexit. Sheer desperation from Rishi.

Well. Yes. Both are true. I can never forgive him for walking away after Brexit when he promised he wouldn’t. He should have stayed and helped us manage the mess he’d put us in. But…

At least he has some empathy for his fellow human beings. With all his faults, and I’d never choose him or vote Tory, when I look back, if we have to have a Tory government (and don’t get me started on the masses of turkeys in this country that vote for Christmas) then I’d rather him than some of the other heartless, cold blooded psychopaths.

But agreed that this is likely a ploy to try and claw back some more centrist right wing voters.

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/11/2023 10:28

piscofrisco · 13/11/2023 10:27

I'm confused as I didn't think he was an MP anymore and on top of that I didn't think you could be in cabinet if you weren't an MP? Obvs Im wrong on at least one of those counts!

He's being made a life peer so will sit in the House of Lords.

It is allowed, I think thatcher did it as well with someone in her cabinet. But in my (inexpert) opinion, it should be allowed. He won't be answerable in the House of Commons

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 13/11/2023 10:27

The man who gave us Brexit. I absolutely despise him for that and I always will.

piscofrisco · 13/11/2023 10:27

I'm confused as I didn't think he was an MP anymore and on top of that I didn't think you could be in cabinet if you weren't an MP? Obvs Im wrong on at least one of those counts!

MaggieFS · 13/11/2023 10:24

What a fucking mess. It looks dire or desperate for Sunak. Cameron is unanswerable to the commons. He's the twat that caved to the Tory right and gave us Brexit.

FFS.

Cornettoninja · 13/11/2023 10:24

VikingVolva · 13/11/2023 10:21

Gordon Brown was keen on getting a way for the Commons to summon a Lord who held government office so they could be answerable. IIRC, it was because it would make it easier to appoint from a wider (and quite probably more experienced) group.

I'm guessing nowt has come of this

You can’t enjoy facism if you start letting the throngs think they have any input in governing.

VikingVolva · 13/11/2023 10:24

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/11/2023 10:20

In his speech to the Tory conference, Sunak apparently said

”We’ve had thirty years of a political system which incentivises the easy decision, not the right one.
Thirty years of vested interests standing in the way of change.
Thirty years of rhetorical ambition which achieves little more than a short-term headline.”

Doesn’t time fly! It doesn’t seem like 30 years since DC was PM.

Presumably trying to be heir of Thatcher (33 years since she left office)

Elastica23 · 13/11/2023 10:23

God, they really are desperate.

He's a much more decent bloke that many of them but at the same time with the Brexit referendum made the probably worst decision which has ever been made for young people and small businesses in this country, plus education and the NHS with all the departing staff, plus all the racism which has proliferated since then, and I will never forgive him for that.

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/11/2023 10:22

KeyWorker · 13/11/2023 10:15

Good god. I didn’t even realise he was still an MP. Desperate times for Sunak.

He isn’t an MP. He’s being given a peerage so he can be in the House of Lords.

ilovesooty · 13/11/2023 10:22

KeyWorker · 13/11/2023 10:15

Good god. I didn’t even realise he was still an MP. Desperate times for Sunak.

He isn't. He'll have to be elevated to the Lords.

VikingVolva · 13/11/2023 10:21

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/11/2023 10:16

He isn't. He's being given a peerage and will serve in the House of Lords.

Allowed but outrageous imo. He won't be answerable to MPs in the House of Commons, as he won't be able to speak there.

Gordon Brown was keen on getting a way for the Commons to summon a Lord who held government office so they could be answerable. IIRC, it was because it would make it easier to appoint from a wider (and quite probably more experienced) group.

I'm guessing nowt has come of this

eddiemairswife · 13/11/2023 10:21

Tired of 'chillaxing'?

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/11/2023 10:21

Bunnycat101 · 13/11/2023 10:20

I don’t get what’s in it for him though? He seemed to have a nice life with his shepherds hut. Why come back for a year unless he thinks he can win the next election. I bet Sam Cam is furious.

He's been made a life peer. He's not just getting a job for a few months before the next election

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/11/2023 10:20

In his speech to the Tory conference, Sunak apparently said

”We’ve had thirty years of a political system which incentivises the easy decision, not the right one.
Thirty years of vested interests standing in the way of change.
Thirty years of rhetorical ambition which achieves little more than a short-term headline.”

Doesn’t time fly! It doesn’t seem like 30 years since DC was PM.

Bunnycat101 · 13/11/2023 10:20

I don’t get what’s in it for him though? He seemed to have a nice life with his shepherds hut. Why come back for a year unless he thinks he can win the next election. I bet Sam Cam is furious.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 13/11/2023 10:18

@KeyWorker he's not an MP, he probably will be a lord by the end of the week.

HamstersAreMyLife · 13/11/2023 10:17

Locutus2000 · 13/11/2023 10:14

The man who started the current shitshow rewarded with a peerage and top government job.

This country is a banana republic at this point.

This. I suspect the peerage is his only motivation and Rishi is desperate. He will try to steer towards a moderate Tory party over the next 12 months ahead of the election I reckon but hopefully no one is so short memoried that they will fall for it!

monsteramunch · 13/11/2023 10:17

He won't be answerable to MPs in the House of Commons, as he won't be able to speak there.

I didn't know this. How on earth does that work?! God what an absolute embarrassment this government is.

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/11/2023 10:16

KeyWorker · 13/11/2023 10:15

Good god. I didn’t even realise he was still an MP. Desperate times for Sunak.

He isn't. He's being given a peerage and will serve in the House of Lords.

Allowed but outrageous imo. He won't be answerable to MPs in the House of Commons, as he won't be able to speak there.

monsteramunch · 13/11/2023 10:16

Isn't it mortifying for Sunak to essentially admit that not one of his MPs is up to the job? That his 'team' is that shit that in a rare move, someone will have to be presumably rushed through the peerage process as they aren't even an MP?! Even just optics wise it's a shit show.

VikingVolva · 13/11/2023 10:16

Sunak doesn't exactly have a good field of potential candidates to choose from though.

I think Cameron would do well at the diplomacy and fostering relationships angle of the job. He's a supporter of maintaining aid budgets.

If he's having to react to a crisis, formulate new policy or get closely involved in tough negotiations, then I really have no predictions about how he'll do (but that's also truse of just about anybody)

KeyWorker · 13/11/2023 10:15

Good god. I didn’t even realise he was still an MP. Desperate times for Sunak.

Locutus2000 · 13/11/2023 10:14

The man who started the current shitshow rewarded with a peerage and top government job.

This country is a banana republic at this point.

Sourisblanche · 13/11/2023 10:12

Wow Cameron. Responsible for the Brexit mess then ran away, followed that by being at the centre of the biggest lobbying scandal in uk history.

determinedtomakethiswork · 13/11/2023 10:12

This man is the reason we're in the mess we are now. His austerity measures are the reason why all government services are massively underfunded now and in trouble. He brought about Brexit by not listening to other people. Then he scarpered as soon as the referendum results came in. Why on earth is that will be celebrating him coming back?