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Dave is Back!!!

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LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 10:00

Dave Cameron is back in the cabinet…. desperate throw of the dice or inspired move to limit the inevitable defeat?

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ChocoChocoLatte · 13/11/2023 11:28

Hbh17 · 13/11/2023 11:20

The referendum was obviously a huge mistake but, otherwise, he was a good PM. He has status and experience, which will serve him well in the FCO. He's moderate, centrist and socially liberal - all good. It does now feel like a grown up is back in the room.

Oh. Dear. God

They're all a bunch of self serving sycophants who aren't deserving of the post or the power it brings or democracy it requires.

The last 7years have surely shown that at least?!

justaboutdonenow · 13/11/2023 11:27

Absolutely, 100% a desperate throw of the dice.

tescocreditcard · 13/11/2023 11:27

How much damage do we think he can do in one year? Anyone care to pontificate?

Araminta1003 · 13/11/2023 11:27

What is Cameron’s position on Israel and if he cannot stand in house to answer questions, what are the implications?

AlecTrevelyan006 · 13/11/2023 11:26

Apparently the reshuffle will create a ‘United team’

well here’s a quote from Dave last month

“Today’s decision on HS2 is the wrong one. It will help to fuel the views of those who argue that we can no longer think or act for the long-term as a country; that we are heading in the wrong direction.

HS2 was about investing for the long-term, bringing the country together, ensuring a more balanced economy and delivering the Northern Powerhouse. We achieved historic, cross-party support, with extensive buy-in from city and local authority leaders across the Midlands and North of England. Today’s announcement throws away fifteen years of cross-party consensus, sustained over six administrations, and will make it much harder to build consensus for any future long-term projects.

All across the world, we see transformative, long-term infrastructure projects completed or underway. They show countries on the rise, building for future generations, thinking big and getting things done.

I regret this decision and in years to come I suspect many will look back at today’s announcement and wonder how this once-in-a-generation opportunity was lost.”

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 11:26

I think it's a good move. The more power the far right of the Tory party has had the worse things have gone for our country,

We've had a dreadful run of l Foreign Secretaries. You have to go back to pre-Brexit Hammond and Hague to find a half decent one.

The Tories have already given us incompetent governance in a pandemic. Let's not triers it for the potential path to WW3.

Hbh17 · 13/11/2023 11:25

There wasn't "devastation", he brought in sensible economic policy after many years of profligacy.

Exasperatednow · 13/11/2023 11:25

Unelected PM (not even by his own party) and unelected foreign secretary ...

And cameron won't be able to be questioned in house on foreign policy...

ChocoChocoLatte · 13/11/2023 11:25

I literally just can't. The man responsible for one of the biggest political cluster fucks of our time and he's waltzing back in. I feel like I'm stuck in a bad dream.

Pigeon31 · 13/11/2023 11:24

It does feel as though after all that upheaval in the last 7 years, nothing has really changed. What was Brexit even for?

derxa · 13/11/2023 11:24

Hbh17 · 13/11/2023 11:20

The referendum was obviously a huge mistake but, otherwise, he was a good PM. He has status and experience, which will serve him well in the FCO. He's moderate, centrist and socially liberal - all good. It does now feel like a grown up is back in the room.

I totally agree

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 11:24

And that is the final nail in the Brexit heart. It's architect and arch remainer as foreign secretary.

Vivolvolo · 13/11/2023 11:23

The man who gambled on Brexit and opened the doors to what we have now. And whose austerity measures harmed so many. Man’s shameless.

Araminta1003 · 13/11/2023 11:23

Next, Starmer will bring Blair back?!

DdraigGoch · 13/11/2023 11:23

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/11/2023 10:28

He's being made a life peer so will sit in the House of Lords.

It is allowed, I think thatcher did it as well with someone in her cabinet. But in my (inexpert) opinion, it should be allowed. He won't be answerable in the House of Commons

It's also how Gordon Brown brought Peter Mandelson back into the government after his stint as a European Commissioner.

BIossomtoes · 13/11/2023 11:23

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 11:19

350 Tory MPs and none of them can be trusted in the Foreign Office?

To be fair not many of them would want it. Four junior ministers have resigned this morning.

Araminta1003 · 13/11/2023 11:22

If the Tories kick out all the far right, then Labour and Starmer will have no choice but to get rid of the far left and the antisemitic elements too. If they get all the extremists out on both sides, that can only be a good thing. I frankly do not care anymore who gets into power as long as no crazies are left over in their party who hold the whole country to ransom. I just want the very far right out and then the very far left, in that order.
So I assume that is what Sunak is now playing at.

Everythinghasgonetoshit · 13/11/2023 11:22

GettinChillyHereFFS · 13/11/2023 10:04

The man fucked a pigs head. He should be no where near the leadership of this country.

You mean fucked a pigs head and set the wheels in motion for a massive fucking of the country too. The pigs head is a metaphor for the UK.

I bet he is only arounds to make money since taxpayers money is a free for all for the already very wealthy. He's jumping on the gravy train before it grinds to a halt.

I can't honestly say there is a Tory left who I trust. The only decent ones were Rory Stewart and those that left during the Brexit shitshow during May's reign. There's nobody decent left, just the dregs of the party.

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 13/11/2023 11:22

I've just woken up after a 7 year sleep and instead of finding Bobby Ewing in the shower I get David Cameron in the cabinet office.

BIossomtoes · 13/11/2023 11:22

Hbh17 · 13/11/2023 11:20

The referendum was obviously a huge mistake but, otherwise, he was a good PM. He has status and experience, which will serve him well in the FCO. He's moderate, centrist and socially liberal - all good. It does now feel like a grown up is back in the room.

He was a dreadful PM. Did you miss the devastation caused by austerity?

Hbh17 · 13/11/2023 11:20

The referendum was obviously a huge mistake but, otherwise, he was a good PM. He has status and experience, which will serve him well in the FCO. He's moderate, centrist and socially liberal - all good. It does now feel like a grown up is back in the room.

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 11:19

350 Tory MPs and none of them can be trusted in the Foreign Office?

Ellie56 · 13/11/2023 11:19

LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 10:00

Dave Cameron is back in the cabinet…. desperate throw of the dice or inspired move to limit the inevitable defeat?

FFS David Cameron has so much to answer for and they bring him back?

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 13/11/2023 11:19

oviedo · 13/11/2023 11:16

I think the same thing happened to Peter Mandelson

Yes, he was made a Lord so he could be in the cabinet as First Secretary of State (which isn't always a position that's filled, there currently isn't one).

BloodyHellKen · 13/11/2023 11:18

TBH I don't mind David Cameron. He's quite liberal and a centrist which is the sort of conservative I prefer 😁