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Dave is Back!!!

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LadyMacB · 13/11/2023 10:00

Dave Cameron is back in the cabinet…. desperate throw of the dice or inspired move to limit the inevitable defeat?

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Araminta1003 · 13/11/2023 11:47

“Perhaps Tories are "shy" because they don't want to take any personal responsibility for how badly the country has gone downhill under the party they voted for?”

There are a lot more floaters these days though aren’t there? Just judging by my friendship group a lot of past Labour or past Tory has gone Lib Dem in the last five years and definitely post the previous Labour stint, a few ended up voting Tory due to the Iraq war. And many people could not bring themselves to vote for Corbyn.

Not everyone is firmly Red or Blue.

BIossomtoes · 13/11/2023 11:47

Pigeon31 · 13/11/2023 11:46

He wasn't solely responsible for the Brexit vote, but he sure was responsible for running away without having any input into what Brexit should look like, or fighting harder for a form of Brexit that would have been less damaging.

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He was the one who instigated the referendum in the first place.

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 11:47

To be fair Cameron didn't so much run away as as jauntily trundle while humming a happy tune.

Leaving the country to "the bastards" who had ground government to a halt until they got what they wanted.

Pigeon31 · 13/11/2023 11:46

Lobelia123 · 13/11/2023 11:44

I agree with many of the points made on the thread, but not with this one. Cameron was not responsible for Brexit.... Brexit was caused by US, the British voters - either not pitching up to vote in alliance with our principles and beliefs, or turning up to vote in our ignorance and narrow view of the world and what it means to be British in the modern world. Only we are to blame. This is a thing that many people seem to find hard to face up to - the politicians are only the enablers - we the voters are the ones to blame, for not supporting the right policies, for not educating ourselves on what the parties believe in and stand for, for not being critical thinkers when it comes to examining track records and figuring out whether or not we can trust any of these glib and shiny people.

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He wasn't solely responsible for the Brexit vote, but he sure was responsible for running away without having any input into what Brexit should look like, or fighting harder for a form of Brexit that would have been less damaging.

Flowers4me · 13/11/2023 11:46

Blimey that's a shock; I thought he was consigned to history. I'm wondering whether its an attempt to bring the party more to the centre which may not be a bad thing. It wouldn't convince me to vote for them though; they've caused a lot of damage and I personally haven't forgiven them for the mismanagement of the pandemic.

PeaceBreaksOut · 13/11/2023 11:45

Pigeon31 · 13/11/2023 11:24

It does feel as though after all that upheaval in the last 7 years, nothing has really changed. What was Brexit even for?

I'm pretty sure the point of Brexit wasn't to get rid of David Cameron. There would have been much cheaper and easier ways to do that.

verdantverdure · 13/11/2023 11:44

IslandsInTheSunshine · 13/11/2023 11:37

Is there anyone on Mumsnet who dares to say they are a Conservative?

(That's not to say they approve of all they do.)

Never appears that way when the Left pile in on these threads.

Perhaps Tories are "shy" because they don't want to take any personal responsibility for how badly the country has gone downhill under the party they voted for?

Lobelia123 · 13/11/2023 11:44

Sourisblanche · 13/11/2023 10:12

Wow Cameron. Responsible for the Brexit mess then ran away, followed that by being at the centre of the biggest lobbying scandal in uk history.

I agree with many of the points made on the thread, but not with this one. Cameron was not responsible for Brexit.... Brexit was caused by US, the British voters - either not pitching up to vote in alliance with our principles and beliefs, or turning up to vote in our ignorance and narrow view of the world and what it means to be British in the modern world. Only we are to blame. This is a thing that many people seem to find hard to face up to - the politicians are only the enablers - we the voters are the ones to blame, for not supporting the right policies, for not educating ourselves on what the parties believe in and stand for, for not being critical thinkers when it comes to examining track records and figuring out whether or not we can trust any of these glib and shiny people.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 11:42

IvorTheEngineDriver · 13/11/2023 11:35

OMG if only. But if he couldn't put the final nail in when he was PM (as many of us wished he would) he'll have trouble doing it as Foreign Sec.

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This is Rish! signalling to the extreme Brexiteers that their day has come and gone. They had their chance and well and truly fucked it up.

Obviously we'll be left with the smell of the turd that is Brexit for decades - long after I'm in the ground.

But as a message to the ERG that they can go and fuck themselves, it's a pretty unambiguous.

It's also a fuck you to Boris.

Everythinghasgonetoshit · 13/11/2023 11:40

Surely this is Rishi exiting through the side door now?

FloofCloud · 13/11/2023 11:38

I hope he's bringing a fucking big broom to clear up the Brexit fuck up he started!

BIossomtoes · 13/11/2023 11:38

IslandsInTheSunshine · 13/11/2023 11:37

Is there anyone on Mumsnet who dares to say they are a Conservative?

(That's not to say they approve of all they do.)

Never appears that way when the Left pile in on these threads.

Tell us you’re a Tory without telling us you’re a Tory! 😂

BloodyHellKen · 13/11/2023 11:38

Araminta1003 · 13/11/2023 11:23

Next, Starmer will bring Blair back?!

Whatever anyone on here thinks of Blair you can't deny he had bucket loads of charisma. I think Starmer is a good, decent person, but he is not half the leader Blair was IMO.

IslandsInTheSunshine · 13/11/2023 11:37

Is there anyone on Mumsnet who dares to say they are a Conservative?

(That's not to say they approve of all they do.)

Never appears that way when the Left pile in on these threads.

Everythinghasgonetoshit · 13/11/2023 11:37

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 11:33

If the irony that the end of Brexit is signalled by an unelected bureaucrat beaing made foreign secretary isn't God telling us something, I may well start going to church.

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😂

derxa · 13/11/2023 11:36

egowise · 13/11/2023 11:32

I just burst out laughing in the office, getting lots of puzzled looks hahah

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I honestly find this pig's head business totally unfunny.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 13/11/2023 11:35

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 11:24

And that is the final nail in the Brexit heart. It's architect and arch remainer as foreign secretary.

OMG if only. But if he couldn't put the final nail in when he was PM (as many of us wished he would) he'll have trouble doing it as Foreign Sec.

SerendipityJane · 13/11/2023 11:33

If the irony that the end of Brexit is signalled by an unelected bureaucrat beaing made foreign secretary isn't God telling us something, I may well start going to church.

Frabbits · 13/11/2023 11:33

Christ the tories are desperate. The world's stupidest man appointed home secretary and a washed up ex mp taking a break from the book tour in as foreign sec.

egowise · 13/11/2023 11:32

GettinChillyHereFFS · 13/11/2023 10:04

The man fucked a pigs head. He should be no where near the leadership of this country.

I just burst out laughing in the office, getting lots of puzzled looks hahah

Vivolvolo · 13/11/2023 11:32

JustEatTheOneInTheBallPit · 13/11/2023 11:10

David Cameron: Awarded life peerage by an unelected prime minister, so that he can walk into one of the most important jobs in government office and make decisions about our lives.

…. But at least we’re not still being ruled by those “undemocratic bureaucrats” in Brussels, eh?

Spot on

Everythinghasgonetoshit · 13/11/2023 11:31

AzureBlue99 · 13/11/2023 10:53

I wish Rishi would resign. He is out of his depth.

Agreed, he wasn't even a good chancellor and is responsible for a lot of the economic mess we are in now, even though Truss was a great scapegoat and did contribute to it.

Good point about Cameron not being an MP. I totally overlooked that.

SisterBethina · 13/11/2023 11:29

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guess GIF
BIossomtoes · 13/11/2023 11:28

Hbh17 · 13/11/2023 11:25

There wasn't "devastation", he brought in sensible economic policy after many years of profligacy.

He ruined public services. You may regard that as a good thing. I don’t. And he didn’t even reduce the national debt while he was doing it. It increased.

Dave is Back!!!
letterfromschool · 13/11/2023 11:28

KeyWorker · 13/11/2023 10:15

Good god. I didn’t even realise he was still an MP. Desperate times for Sunak.

this!