Shall I pay for shoes

If you know the right fifteen-year-olds, certainly! But the point is that good shoes of whatever type cost money. £150 doesn't strike me as strange in the slightest. And I am someone who dresses herself almost exclusively from charity shops, apart from underwear and footwear.

Could be cultural? I wasn't born here and the idea of buying £7 shoes from the supermarket fills me with bemusement and horror in equal measure. Even the plastic crap they sell in Deichmann's for £50-60+ with no arch support is terrible. Not worth wrecking your feet on.

Decent Goretex shoes for hiking can easily cost £170+

The peaks are awash with 15 year olds in Goretex 🤔

A lot of 15 yos still have growing feet so it's irrelevant if the shoes last years, because they won't wear them for years.

It's also very unlikely the teen was visiting wearing her "proper " running or hiking shoes (if she's even into that kind of stuff).

Finally, can we stop pretending that paying £100s for shoes is normal,expected or a even some kind of necessity? It really isn’t.

Offtopic, but lol at all the "150 for shoes?!" comments. My classic Dr Marten shoes (not even boots) are priced at £139 and I wouldn't class them as designer. Decent Goretex shoes for hiking can easily cost £170+. Proper running shoes (Saucony, Brooks, whatever) can easily be in that bracket as well. They all last well and support your feet. Cheap shoes are always a false economy.

I would contribute something towards the cost, OP, but not all. Kid has contributory negligence as well. 50/50 seems fair.

I'd never wear my shoes in someone elses home and everyone takes theirs off to come in to mine, not optional 😁

But OP wasn't around when the friend came so how could she secure the puppy or move the shoes? She was in the bathroom.

Your daughter should pay, her friend her responsibility to remind friend of the rules.

It’s really sad to see how many posters have accused you of having an XL bully and have pre-judged you for it.

Their opinions are invalid because they’re only saying whether YABU/NBU based on what breed of dog you have, which says more about them than you.

My first instinct was to say that YABU because you should pay for any damage your dog does but I actually think YANBU.

If you had a porch that leaked and told someone to not leave their shoes in the porch because they’ll get wet, then they can’t moan if they leave their shoes in the porch.

I would feel a bit guilty and I would remind guests every time they come over to put their shoes on the stairs but she has been told before and DD was there.

I would perhaps compromise and see if you can find someone who can repair them and how much it costs.

I definitely wouldn’t pay for brand new ones.

@CatamaranViper

Exactly? It's a home - someone is visiting it - the hosts are responsible for making sure (within reason) they & their property are ok.

The utter entitlement of 'they were told before' and 'actions have consequences' in the context of an unmanaged puppy, that the owners couldn't be bothered to either secure or ensure a visitor's property was safe.

It utterly isn't.

It's someone's home for goodness sake not a hotel. Sure I agree that the DD should have reminded her friend, but that's where the blame ends. The 15 year old friend should have remembered the rules, she didn't and her shoes got nibbled as a result. Actions and consequences and all that.

@CatamaranViper

No, it's nothing like that!

The visitor should be looked after by the hosts. That includes OP (really, in the moments she was in the bathroom, the puppy got to the shoes & damaged them?) and her DC. They proactively a) move the shoes and b) secure the puppy so it can't wander around destroying things.

Placing blame on a visitor because they were previously advised about their shoes is utterly wrong.

Well it is really hard to be in 2 places at once. OP was in the bathroom when her DD brought a friend round.
Should OP be permanently standing by the door ready at all times for surprise guests?

It is a guarantee that puppies will chew something. They're young and they're learning. You can just click your fingers and they're perfectly trained. Guest was aware there was a shoe chewing dog in this house and still chose to leave her shoes out. It's like walking out on a road with your eyes closed and being surprised when you get hit.

This. She's probably lied to her parents and pretended you never mentioned about putting them somewhere safe. No way would I pay.

Your own DD invited her, let her in the house and took her upstairs.. The 15 year old took off shoes (left at the door ?).
Your DD lives in the house and didn't remind the girl of your house rules.
If your DD didn't remember the rule how can you expect the guest to remember!

I would speak to her parent.Explain the circumstances, emphasising the fact that girl had been told previously.
I would then offer to replace the shoes.
Hopefully, her parent will laugh it off.

Offer to compensate. I have dogs and would.

People started taking shoes off indoors when they moved from caves and huts into houses.

Also a seat next to said shoe closet as personally, I hate trying to hop around and balance when going to someone’s house who wants shoes off. No issue with that, but have a seat ffs.

To my mind it depends whether you make people take their shoes off or not. If not, and the girl took them off and left them lying around, then her tough luck I think. Whereas if you make people take shoes off, then you have more of a responsibility for them once they are off and asking for people to toss them into some stairs seems a bit weird and prone to error. What if one falls off? What if one is knocked odd as people go up/down, there should be a secure shoe closet in the case of a shoe munching dog if people are made to take them off.

Unbelievable.

It isn't the 15 yo guest's responsibility to guard their property against an untrained, unmanaged pet.

How hard would it be for OP or her DC to make sure the shoes were out of reach of the dog, having thought to remind the visitor?

Your dog chewed them. You should offer to replace(but say you can't afford 150 but you can buy a cheaper pair )
You didn't tell her to put the shoes away this time

@FestiveSandman But the OP had set up and explained a system of how the guest could keep their shoes safe. The guest is 15 and would have seen the stairgate as a visual reminder. It isn't the OP's fault a 15yo failed to safeguard her own, expensive, property.

Guest been before . Told to put shoes on stairs . Puppy can’t get them as there is a stair gate . How is that entitled?

Can't get over this as well as other posters' views on this - of course you are responsible for protecting a visitor's belongings from your untrained pet.

They were told to put them on the stairs. You should have checked & ensured that did, and supervised your dog.

That said, I wouldn't go asking for money or a replacement if it was my DC it happened to. But I'd certainly be gutted.

If I were you I'd offer a voucher or small payment.

And for those aghast at the cost - teens wear expensive trainers (I've 3 teens). They get them for birthdays or Christmas only. It's completely normal - if expensive. I wouldn't spend it on myself but it's absolutely the norm for most teens.

It isn’t up to a guest to remember that shoes go in a particular spot in a house. It isn’t the same as remembering a rule in your own home. The host should remind upon arrival.

Your animal caused damage. You won’t take responsibility for that. That’s what makes you entitled.

You are part of the reason why we have so many dog attacks these days.

And also exactly why I would never allow my child to stay over at a house where there’s a dog. You can’t be trusted.

Definitely not pay

and can people stop writing ddog 🙄😂