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Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 22:16

So today a weird interaction happened. Im a TA in a primary school. My teacher is a new supply teacher to the school and is also newly qualified. He made a karate noise and then the class started laughing and someone shouted oh you werent here Mrs........ they then all began shouting and laughing and saying Mr ........ almost kicked this certain pupil in the head by doing a karate kick. I said what's that I don't understand. The teacher then said class what have I told you about telling tales and sheepishly laughing. Then he said you say someone did this and don't name names.
I later asked the boy who it happened to and he said yea it was so funny apparently I bent down and Mr...... almost kicked me in the head and said come on (pupils name).
This pupil it happened to seems to be one that this teacher singles out alot. He had previously called this child annoying to his face in front of the class. Always picks him out to tuck his polo in. Picks him out to answer questions and says oh I better do this otherwise (pupil name) would say something to me.
I don't know if he thinks it's just banter but I just feel weird about it. What do others think?

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Skyblue92 · 11/11/2023 08:53

OP, I’m reading a lot of excuses as to why you didn’t immediately report any concerns. I agree with a PP ask for more training.

You clearly didn’t listen in the training or you just didn’t understand. Concerns on staff always go directly to the head teacher.

There is no set list of what concerns constitute reporting or not, anything that is a concern should be reported.

You never investigate it yourself, that is down to the Head Teacher to investigate and gather all the facts.

the fact that you are discussing concerns on social media is concerning.

ilovesooty · 11/11/2023 08:52

SinnerBoy · 11/11/2023 08:45

Always picks him out to tuck his polo in.

Is the teacher tucking his shirt in?

Irrelevant.

AtomicBlondeRose · 11/11/2023 08:49

I’m a teacher. Yes it can just be a different style of teaching and a way of building a relationship with a class BUT if you have concerns you report them upwards - don’t talk to the teacher about it, just factually lay out what you’ve seen and heard. It’s up to the safeguarding lead to decide what to do from there.

Spirallingdownwards · 11/11/2023 08:49

Letsnowalready · 11/11/2023 00:17

I did actually ask the teacher at break too. I said oh what's all this karate business all about in a light hearted manner. He said something about how karate came up and so he did this action and almost kicked this pupil in the head because he bent down to get something. But then he tried to explain away the not telling tales thing. I can't really remember what he said exactly but it didn't really make sense.
Today he also snapped at another TA. We were sitting discussing a music lesson and she came in laughing because it looked difficult and it was in a sympathetic good luck way. He snapped and went "what are you laughing at". It was awkward as she didn't know what to say and just handed him an envelope. Was abrupt and he's abrupt like that.

OK so not only do you not like him you and another teacher were laughing together about him. That's nice.

ilovesooty · 11/11/2023 08:49

anbdoejpmb · 10/11/2023 22:47

I find it more concerning you are sharing this across different social media platforms instead of using the appropriate channels at your school to report concerns. You should have done training in this and know exactly what you should do 🙄

I agree.

Spirallingdownwards · 11/11/2023 08:47

Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 22:51

The training didn't really focus on staff. I just want advice because I don't want to be viewed as causing drama

Ask to be retrained immediately.

You clearly weren't paying attention to safeguarding training if you didn't think it focuses on staff too.

The boy himself says the incident you didn't witness was funny. Sounds like you are jealous of a young NQ teacher more tha there being a real issue.

SinnerBoy · 11/11/2023 08:45

Always picks him out to tuck his polo in.

Is the teacher tucking his shirt in?

Freshair1 · 11/11/2023 08:42

I'm struggling with how a TA is posting this on Mumsnet when they should be using their head and reporting to someone in their school..... Basic common sense!!!

Nothingbuttheglory · 11/11/2023 08:40

Male teachers often have a different rapport with their pupils, as do younger teachers.

Having a special rapport with one particular pupil, as OP outlines, is not appropriate. Sounds like there are a number of low-level concerns which she should report to the Head. This is fairly basic safeguarding stuff.

RedHelenB · 11/11/2023 08:35

charlotte361 · 10/11/2023 22:29

I later asked the boy who it happened to and he said yea it was so funny
It sounds as though he has a great rapport with his class.You sound a little old school and maybe a little jealous??

This. Male teachers often have a different rapport with their pupils, as do younger teachers.

elapaosnabsndl · 11/11/2023 08:32

"Yes it went over how to report those concerns but not what concerns you should report really. I just don't want to be seen making a drama out of something if the SLT think it's nothing"

Good lord if this is real you are more of a concern than this teacher. You report ALL concerns, anything, anything at all that has made you stop and question something. IF this is real you need to go into work and ask them to repeat the training because you are a danger to the children you work with. You also obviously need to report your concerns about this teacher.

Also the PP is right, why are you posting this in multiple places on social media? Your school should also have a clear social media policy and you shouldn't be talking about things like this in public online. You should be reporting it through the appropriate channels at your school.

I hope you're just making up stuff and trying to stir drama because it's a better option than you actually working in a school and behaving in the manner you are doing.

MaisyAndTallulah · 11/11/2023 04:07

The teacher sounds like a jerk. He's bullying on plain sight and got the class joining in.

iLovee · 11/11/2023 03:41

You need to report this to a DSL. You should have had safeguarding training. Follow your schools safeguarding policy.

You should not be posting about it online unless you have changed significant details. I would report you to the DSL if I recognised your post, and I'm sure others would too.

I think you need a wee refresh in safeguarding.

Letsnowalready · 11/11/2023 00:17

I did actually ask the teacher at break too. I said oh what's all this karate business all about in a light hearted manner. He said something about how karate came up and so he did this action and almost kicked this pupil in the head because he bent down to get something. But then he tried to explain away the not telling tales thing. I can't really remember what he said exactly but it didn't really make sense.
Today he also snapped at another TA. We were sitting discussing a music lesson and she came in laughing because it looked difficult and it was in a sympathetic good luck way. He snapped and went "what are you laughing at". It was awkward as she didn't know what to say and just handed him an envelope. Was abrupt and he's abrupt like that.

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SandyWaves · 11/11/2023 00:17

I hope you reported this, OP.

I would be very concerned and I am sure any parents on here would want to know if it was innocent or not.

LadyHag · 11/11/2023 00:03

Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 23:18

Yes it went over how to report those concerns but not what concerns you should report really. I just don't want to be seen making a drama out of something if the SLT think it's nothing

It's not your job to decide if a concern you have is possibly nothing.

That is the headteacher's job as concerns about staff should go directly to the head. You dont need to make the decision as to whether it is something or nothing.

There are lots of issues in your post that I would be unhappy with.

Escapefromhell · 10/11/2023 23:57

Also, you are not making a drama out of nothing. Very often it is the snippets of information that build a picture. Things that seem almost trivial when considered in isolation.

You will be doing this teacher a favour. He will hopefully get the guidance and training that he needs.

Or, you might save a child from being harmed…

Escapefromhell · 10/11/2023 23:53

Follow your safeguarding training protocol. If you have any doubts over any behaviours you need to inform your line manager or safeguarding lead who will then deal with it. This might form part of a larger picture. They might already be monitoring this teacher’s behaviour. There may be future complaints.

Bbq1 · 10/11/2023 23:33

Ideally, Op. you should have reported this to the Safeguard lead before leaving school today. Obviously, you need to get in slightly early on Mon to report first thing . Then, you know you've done right thing and the lead can investigate.

Mostlyoblivious · 10/11/2023 23:27

Have you been keeping a note (incl. date) of these incidents?

Go with your gut and talk to your manager. An adult telling children not to talk about something that happened is a red flag. The teacher targeting a pupil is also an issue.

I’d take the weekend to note down what you can remember has happened and then speak with someone come Monday

dapsnotplimsolls · 10/11/2023 23:19

Talk to your line manager.

Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 23:18

SisterMichaelsHabit · 10/11/2023 23:14

Because safeguarding training is mandatory for all staff employed in a school and it will have covered how to report concerns about members of staff, it is mandatory content for a mandatory course that you cannot possibly work in a school unless you have completed, even if you are supply or new or untrained you have to complete this training before you start working in a school with children.
HTH.

Yes it went over how to report those concerns but not what concerns you should report really. I just don't want to be seen making a drama out of something if the SLT think it's nothing

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SisterMichaelsHabit · 10/11/2023 23:14

Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 23:07

I'm new to this job so actually I don't know. Why am I being attacked for asking for advice on something I'm unsure of. Surely this is the point of posting? To seek advice

Because safeguarding training is mandatory for all staff employed in a school and it will have covered how to report concerns about members of staff, it is mandatory content for a mandatory course that you cannot possibly work in a school unless you have completed, even if you are supply or new or untrained you have to complete this training before you start working in a school with children.
HTH.

stardust40 · 10/11/2023 23:10

Teacher and dsl here. You have a duty to report anything you are uneasy about to your head teacher. Sometimes just a feeling can be off but sometimes it can be right. Protecting a child is everyone's responsibility.

Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 23:07

Mirrormeback · 10/11/2023 23:05

As a TA you should know what to do about this and many PP have pointed you in the right direction

I'm new to this job so actually I don't know. Why am I being attacked for asking for advice on something I'm unsure of. Surely this is the point of posting? To seek advice

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