To hate my partners dog?

This can't be real? Are there really these kind of people out there living in such chaos like this and not understand the potential time bomb waiting to go off. OP you sounded so blasé about your kids not being alone with the xl or even allowing their friends around because of her. That's batshit crazy! I feel sorry for all the dogs and the kids. You and your partner are absolutely stupid to think the issue here is hygiene of the bed.

Which is what should be done with this one. It's already savaged the other dogs.

Very soon it will be illegal to rehome/sell xl bully dogs. Rescues are not taking them as they know it will be illegal to rehome them in a couple of months. If an owner can no longer keep the dog they will have to pts.

@MegaMay I'm not usually someone who would advise putting a healthy dog to sleep unless there was literally no other option and keeping it in the current environment has a high risk of serious harm to the dog or others.

I think this is one of those situations where there is no other sensible option. OP is running out of time to responsibly rehome the XL. If she can find a suitable home with rescue backup, then of course that would be preferable but the chance of that happening is somewhere between no fucking chance and when hell freezes over.

The other option would be to rehome the other three dogs.

They cannot be kept together. OP has neither the time, space nor expertise to make keeping them together safe, and I very much doubt she would find any behaviorist who would advise keeping all dogs and be willing to work with her to promote harmony between the dogs. Not least because it's not actually possible with OP's current housing situation.

To rehab the dogs successfully she would need to remove the XL or the other 3 dogs from the home temporarily. You cannot rehab dogs when their stress levels are so high. And even if she could find someone to help her and she could find a temp home for the other three dogs and they were successfully rehabbed they could never, ever be left unsupervised together and would need careful, vigilant management for the rest of their lives to ensure the relationship between the dogs doesn't deteriorate again.

Add to that that unless the dogs are her full-time job and she is willing and able to dedicate 6-8 hours a day, every day, to meeting their needs, none of these animals are going to be getting a satisfactory level of care.

Your appeals to emotion & mild ad hominems contribute neither reasoned discussion, nor constructive advice for the OP.

Some of the PPs have already offered lots of helpful advice for an already extremely difficult, stressful & potentially dangerous situation.

And then there's your golden nugget of wisdom:

'let's start putting people down instead because loads of them are shitty'

Just for starters, that's illegal, so not a viable option.

I'll reiterate, if you are so concerned, & have as much experience rehabbing dogs with complex behavioural issues as you claim, then you'll either have the resources, or at least know someone who has the resources, to take this dog on & turn her around.

Good luck with that, let us know how you get on😊

Give over.

There's always options.

You don't put dogs to sleep because you are dumb enough to get a dog you don't have time or space for.

I have rescued multiple dogs, currently have a whole pack, I put in the time and work to train them and ensure that they have a good life.

People getting dogs they don't have space for etc is the persons fault not the dogs. Let's start putting people down instead because loads of them are shitty.

Breeds shouldn't be banned, breeding etc should be regulated to start with. You clearly know very little about different breeds etc and relationships, you think you should kill dogs who have terrible owners, wow what a terrible attitude.

Don't get a dog if you can't care for it, it should require adequate checks and a license, same for kids because some people shouldnt have them. People suck.

Oh please, just stop it.

Unless you yourself are prepared to take on this dog, go about the process of exempting her & then abiding by them, you have no business passing comment on whether someone else chooses to PTS.

The reality for exempted dogs is a life spent on a lead & muzzled when off their own property, & for the owner to be absolutely on the ball with keeping all their paperwork up to date, unless they want their dog seized.

Many dog related businesses may become inaccessible to them, due to insurance not covering them or the business owner making a personal choice not to allow them.

As yet it's unclear what the options will be for the newly banned breed & dogs considered 'type' when it comes to accessing all but essential (ie veterinary) pet services, but personally I would prepare for a worst case scenario if I had a dog that could be mistaken for type.

That would mean no relaxed offlead walks anywhere, ever, & no secure dog fields so the dogs can have important offlead time.

No 'doggy daycare' or dog walkers for when I'm at work, no groomers, popping into pet shops or dog friendly shops or cafes.

No boarding kennels or pet sitters for if I need to go away or simply want to go on holiday, & no holiday destinations/attractions that would accept my dog if I wanted to take them with me.

To fulfil all the mental & physical needs of a large breed dog under these stipulations will be a challenge for even the most dedicated of dog owners, let alone someone whose home sounds like it's already in absolute chaos.

The dogs, all 4 of them, but especially the boxer mix stuck in a bedroom, will be in a near constant state of stress, which in turn can result in them making choices, such as fighting or redirected aggro, they wouldn't make if they didn't perpetually feel like there was an imminent threat.

FWIW I don't agree with the ban, especially in its current ambiguous incarnation that ringfences far too many dogs that may or may not, but I do agree there is a serious problem

For some dogs, showing real love for them is making an appointment to PTS, then giving them a few amazing last days where it's just about them doing the things they love- long walks in their favourite places, spending time with those they love, playing their favourite games, treats galore & their favourite food for dinner.

Jesus christ put to sleep, wow. Awful attitude.

Maybe give the dog to someone who will train it and give it time ut deserves.
People get dogs thinking they're easy but they require as much work as kids, the pts attitude is fucking shitty it's an animal and a pet, someone will and can love and train it. You should need a license for pets and kids because people fucking suck.

I suspect OP is not coming back to update us on this thread

I’d love to know op, what the XL breed was offering by way of characteristics that NO OTHER regular and non aggressive breed wasn’t?

im afraid I agree with the majority, she needs PTS. She won’t know anything about it, but she- and the rest of you, will have peace.

You need to address your personal issues with some kind of professional.

You don't feel love towards the dog, what about the other dog you own?
Seems a huge bout of jealousy there to me especially if she is on your husbands side at sleeping time.

What effort have you made with the dog?
You say she doesn't listening to you like she does your partner, have you tried actively training her yourself and establishing yourself as the alpha in her life?

Why not just get a huge blanket to cover the bed so when she's on it she isn't on your bedding.

Dogs live a hell of a lot longer than 6 years so you have way more than 'a few more' years, you are going to have to address your issues.

OP, I think you need to be honest about whether you are properly meeting all of the dog's needs (mental and physical). I have 3 dogs, 2 of whom are chihuahuas who, push comes to shove, could have their physical exercise needs met in the garden if I really needed them to, and I sometimes struggle. I cannot imagine adding in another high-needs dog who needs separate time and attention from the first one. That has got to be a full-time job.

The two bigger dogs need around 1.5 hours of decent physical exercise per day. The boxer cross is a smart dog who needs probably 30 minutes a day of mental stimulation. I'm not 100% on what makes up XL Bully mixes but I'd guess if they have mastiff in them they also need around 30 minutes of mental stimulation a day. You've already reached four hours a day just on the two bigger dogs and you also have 2 pugs?

I only manage because mine don't need to be separated. They take their morning walk together and playtime in the garden (playing games to meet their mental needs) can also be done together. They're only separated in the evening when the bigger dog has his off-lead run (even then one of the Chi's sometimes wants to come with us).

Sheselectric22, what a brilliant sensible post! Why in Gods name does someone have all these unspayed bitches!!

And quite possibly also the children in a house with two chav-beast dogs, one attacking the other.

OP however much you bleat on about how you're such a responsible owner, your words tell a completely different story. Sooner these horrible, vicious animals are banned the better.

Dogs pissing in the bed and XL bullies. Keeping it classy.

This is utterly batshit. Yes a pet may 'love' you, fulfil some needs for companionship etc but it is not and can never be the same as a human, mutually reinforcing relationship. Would a dog be able to advocate for you in a health crisis? Or gossip with you about work? Human relationships come first, always. As it happens the OP's scenario is a shitshow on multiple levels, so I have no view in whether they should split up - but if they do it's because they clearly make very bad decisions jointly and are incapable of running a safe and relaxing home. Not because the OP doesn't love his dog enough.

It still isn't true though!

You're saying dogs know and get a taste for the blood of a victim but can differentiate this from the blood of a food item?

They can get a keen desire to hunt rats, and obviously not a keen desire to hunt people... but yet if they fall out with another dog and bite them, that automatically equates to them having kids on the menu next?

I don't think you understand how dogs learn, think or react at all.

Yes if you have two dogs in a confined space who do not like each other, and you do nothing to address this situation, it is of course likely to happen again, between those two dogs.

Take one dog out however, and both those dogs could happily live with other dogs and people the rest of their lives.

I spent a lot of time around farm dogs too - I remember one lovely old collie who did not like walkers passing by - she eventually bit two, they 'had' to shoot her.

Or you know, they could have shifted her kennel over a bit and chained her the other side so she did not see and could not reach walkers. Her behaviour was entirely about being chained where 'stranger danger' could approach and she had no option to run away (which is exactly what she did do when loose and they did not want her to they wanted her to bark!)...

The tolerance of most dogs in the face abject stupidity of humans never ceases to amaze me.

If someone didn't like my dog, I would not be with them

This can't be real. And if it is, you sound like the worst kind of person, completely underclass

I am not talking blood as in blood in the food they are eating. I am saying dogs who have bitten another person/animal in the househild and blood has been drawn they will do it again-hence why OPs other dog has had a few operations.

I grew up on a farm and if a dog attacked another animal/person its over for them.

Oh come on can we stop talking total bollocks?

Dogs taste blood all the time, all those ratting dogs, working lurchers, hounds - how often did they kill anyone?

I've lived with raw fed dogs for over 25 years, I have been bitten by 1 of my own dogs, once, in a high-stress accident (I stuck a body part in to split up a scrap). He'd never bitten a human before, nor ever did since but he dispatched a lot of rats for us.

There is zero science backing up your statement that 'once they've tasted blood.... ' but feel free to look for it.

People will never see sense if they're being fed old-wives tales and bullshit!

I dislike dh’s dog. I don’t like dogs anyway but this one smells bad, scavenges food all the time and poos in the kitchen, plus there’s the dog hair. If dh wanted it in the bedroom I’d divorce him. You need address this now and put your foot down. You could have another 7 years of this crap

A person will never have another love them as much as their dog does. You only have to see them tied up outside a shop where all they do is look for their owner, and as soon as they see their owner again they're so happy. I think you should leave him to find a woman who loves his dog as much as he does.

What a crazy situation.. whats with the men moving in with women,in your case he brings a dog along as well. That was first mistake. Second mistake was buying into a violent dog breed when you have children in the house.

Any dog that draws blood needs to be put down,once they have taste for it its not going away-other dog now next it will be one of the kids. That dog can easily kill 11/15 year old child even an adult if he should bite into a large artery. Regardless of what your lodger says why would you want to have him in the house with your kids?

Op you've had lots of advice but I just wanted to chime in and say that although boxers are known for being boisterous , hilarious and very high energy (and yes, hard to train but by no means impossible!), they're also extremely sensitive dogs.

Your boxer x has been attacked multiple times by the xl bully - of course she is going to be feeling insecure, wanting to be close and nervous enough to be peeing on the bed.

I'm a huge dog lover, I currently have 3 boxers and a lot more experience with the breed - this problem will not go away or resolve itself unless you do something.

One of the bigger dogs needs to be surrendered to an appropriate rescue, or more sensibly the xl bully should be pts because safety must come first. It's not fair to be keeping a terrified dog in your bedroom and it's not fair on any of the children loving in your home either.