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To not want to help FIL after surgery?

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fluffyboos · 01/11/2023 16:51

I dont have the best relationship with my in laws due to their past behaviour towards me.
FIL is especially very sarcastic, offensive and irritating.

FIL has come out of hospital due to surgery on his prostate and will be on bed rest for at least 4 weeks.

My husband wants me to go round with a box of chocolates and a card and offer to help and perhaps try and make peace.

My main issue is that when my own father was diagnosed with prostate cancer at the height of the lockdown, my in laws offered me no support whatsoever.

In fact my FIL even shouted at me calling me lazy for no reason whatsoever, he actually made me cry, all this whilst I couldnt even see my dad whilst he was receiving treatment.

Despite this I still did the bulk of my in laws chores in lockdown and never received a thank you or any appreciation.

I work part time where my husband and his sisters both work full time so they are limited on time.

My MIL has arthritis and will struggle to look after him on her own.

I dont see why I should be expected to help just because I work part time.

In laws are not grateful people and I have told my husband that they cant be nasty and ungrateful but expect help of me.

I have refused to go round and it is causing massive tension in the house.
Surely my husband and his siblings should arrange help between them?

They arent even my parents.

I am all for helping people but not when they have been so disrespectful and nasty towards me.

My husband is now quite upset and not really talking.

Am I being nasty like my husband says?

OP posts:
Celticdawn5 · 02/11/2023 07:27

Definitely back well away and don’t offer.

BarbaraofSeville · 02/11/2023 07:21

Your DH and his siblings need to book some annual leave so they can help their parents or even talk to their employers about taking carer's leave (paid or unpaid). If they share the load between them they'll only need a few days off over the next 4 weeks.

Not expect you to step up to help their parents, especially not as they're not particularly nice to you.

8misskitty8 · 02/11/2023 07:13

I can’t get over the fact that your own father was ill and instead of offering support they expected you to do their chores ! In laws and your husband are entitled and horrible. And I would it be offering to help.

When my mum had breast cancer, DH took me to see her whenever I wanted, took care of the girls and the house While I helped her and my dad.
I’m-laws offered help. One day she was very I’ll and dad was waiting on ambulance transport. Mil came straight round to wait for the girls coming out of school (DH was at work) until DH got home. FIL drove me to mum/dad. Mil took me out for coffee and was a shoulder to cry on.
If Inlaws are ever that ill and needed help then I would help as they did it for me.

Skodacool · 02/11/2023 07:12

DomTheDim · 01/11/2023 17:35

It's for your husband and siblings to organise. When DF had his prostate removed he was told not heavy lifting or strenuous lifting for 4 weeks but definitely not bed rest. He was encouraged to be up and in his chair then small walks before being discharged. His op took 12 hours due to complications but he was still up the next day.

Sounds like he's swinging the lead (he may no longer have other types of lead...)

My husband had similar in his 70s, no way was he told to stay in bed. YANBU

MsRosley · 02/11/2023 07:10

Yeah, you're the most available human support unit (otherwise known as a woman), so they're annoyed you're not cooperating. Tough titty. Stand your ground, OP.

Mikimoto · 02/11/2023 07:09

So siblings live IN SAME TOWN and haven't visited?!
Maybe the fam should be having words with them, not you!
DH is only angry because he knows it should be the children (not you) who are helping, but obvs. the siblings can't be bothered.

speakout · 02/11/2023 07:01

OP you have an OH problem, not an in law problem.

This is not your responsibility.
Cheerfully refuse.

Theydontknowthatweknowthattheyknow · 02/11/2023 06:57

I'm a doctor and there's absolutely no prostate surgery that would render him bedbound for 4 weeks. The advice with any surgery, especially if you're elderly, is to get moving as soon as you can to prevent complications such as DVT and prevent muscle loss.

And besides which, he's been a twat to you and he isn't your dad. Tell them all where to swing. My inlaws can't stand me and have been vile to me and DH ever since we met. I've told my DH that I'll do my best not to make it awkward for him or our child to have a relationship with them but I'm done. DH knows that if he pulls any of the gaslighting BS like in your OP he'd better get ready to hear some things he doesn't want to. It's your DH's relative. If he cares that much about him then he will kiss his arse

BCBird · 02/11/2023 06:51

The fact that they are unpleasant would be a reason for me not to do.it. your husband should not put u in this position. They can pay someone to.help

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/11/2023 06:44

4 weeks bedrest?

Absolute rubbish!

He's either misunderstood or is milking the situation.

God almighty - I've know people (usually women, I admit - not men who feel these things soooo much more deeply) who have had half their insides whipped out, and they were forced encouraged to get out of bed asap - DVT's, muscle wastage - lying in bed is the quickest way to destroy your health.

He's after sympathy and a chance to do sweet Fanny Adams for a month, more likely. Given the chance he'll have everyone - but especially you - running round after him like headless chickens.

SaracensMavericks · 02/11/2023 06:07

Don't feel bad OP. My DH's parents are in poor health (his mum had a stroke last year and his dad is old and frail). DH works full time while I work part time (4 days a week). He has been the one supporting them for the past year and a half by going to visit them at weekends and taking the odd day off if they needed extra help. I've held the fort at home (we have three DC) and been to visit them occasionally, but it's been 95% DH.

Most importantly, he helped them to move into a retirement living flat, so everything is much easier for them now. If your PILs are starting to find it hard to cope at home then this is definitely something to consider.

Goldbar · 02/11/2023 06:06

I agree that a middle ground would be supporting your DH by taking over some of his chores at home to free up his weekends for helping his father.

In response to suggestions about you helping, I would just say that they don't like you and have trouble behaving appropriately and non-abusively towards you, so best that FIL's care is provided by someone else though you're happy to support by taking up more of the slack at home.

rickyrickygrimes · 02/11/2023 06:02

What help are they asking for? Taking chocolates and visiting isn’t really help. Personal care… they can pay a temporary carer to help him shower / dress / get ready for bed etc etc - FIL did this after having a hip replacement as he lives alone. And things like shopping, tidying, your husband can help with. Can’t he stir his siblings up to help out?

ElleCapitaine · 02/11/2023 06:02

nopuppiesallowed · 01/11/2023 18:31

You work part-time so I assume (perhaps wrongly) that you have more free time than your husband. If you are a team in your marriage, caring for both sets of parents is a joint responsibility.
In this instance, you have a choice here - you can say that your father in law is unpleasant and didn't help you when you needed it, so you aren't going to help him and your mother in law. This will probably mean that your relationship with them will worsen and your husband will be the unfortunate man in the middle. Or you can be really, really kind and helpful to your in-laws - with the proviso that if your F in Law is unpleasant, you will sweetly tell him that his behaviour will have consequences and you will leave him to think about his attitude to you until he becomes a nicer, kinder person and gives you a call. Give him a peck on his cheek and go out for tea and cake. You'll deserve it. Aim to be the better person....

Don’t do this! They’ll think you’ve taken leave of your senses. If your husband is so keen to provide them with support he goes round before or after work. He can tell them that if they want you to call in they need to phone and invite you because they make you feel unwelcome and unwanted. Your FIL does not need 4 weeks bed rest. That would actually be the worst thing for him.

Bingsbongs · 02/11/2023 06:00

TeaGinandFags · 02/11/2023 05:42

Kindly explain to DH that if he has time to visit his dear father and discuss how you can be pressed into service, then he has time to look after his father.

Also check with the hospital about this 4 weeks in bed nonsense. If they won't speak specifically, ask in principle and about standard practice. It looks like FIL is taking the P.

See if you can pick up some overtime: Christmas tends to be a busy period. If you're expected to fo extra work, you might as well benefit from it.

Yes he is either having his first operation ever or is hoping to pull one, no one is ever advised to lie in bed after operation,one way to get bloodclots.

To compare c section mums are up asap after anasthesia wears off taking care of their babies.

Bingsbongs · 02/11/2023 05:57

FIL is not your responsibility. Prostate operation 4 weeks bedrest- as if! Its 4 weeks off from work not bedrest, no doxtor would ever advise that after operation its up and moving about as soon as possible,like same or next day of the surgery to avoid bloodclots and aid faster healing.

So no dont go anywhere near that situation your husband is wierd even suggesting it

TeaGinandFags · 02/11/2023 05:42

Kindly explain to DH that if he has time to visit his dear father and discuss how you can be pressed into service, then he has time to look after his father.

Also check with the hospital about this 4 weeks in bed nonsense. If they won't speak specifically, ask in principle and about standard practice. It looks like FIL is taking the P.

See if you can pick up some overtime: Christmas tends to be a busy period. If you're expected to fo extra work, you might as well benefit from it.

DreamTheMoors · 02/11/2023 05:20

Let your husband throw his little tizzy. Sit on the sofa, drink copious amounts of wine, scroll away and really piss him off.
Make hay since he’s gonna be pissed off anyhow.

When he whinges, tell him “This is a you problem.” Then take a nice looong drink.

lol

MoonlitStarryNights · 02/11/2023 05:16

nickaldis · 01/11/2023 17:43

I read threads like this and wonder if any DHs stand up to their parents when their parents insult and belittle their wives. Like saying "no mum/dad DON'T talk to my wife like that!"

Not the point of the thread but mine did! Took a while to get right as he was full of FOG himself (Fear Obligation Guilt) and, like it sounds the op might have been, I had been accidentally condition through my own childhood to put others before my own well-being and somehow someone being unkind/borderline abusive meant I had to try even harder to please them. We both had independent counselling and my GP referred me for EMDR for suspected cPTSD when I fell very ill with health issues that would have killed me without the wonders of modern medicine that all had a root in anxiety and a long term unrecognised trauma response.

YireosDodeAver · 02/11/2023 05:05

No you are not being nasty. This work needs doing and the right thing to happen is either one of their own offspring does it out of love or they pay someone to do it. You are not an appropriate unpaid substitute. You are being treated shittily by people who don't value or care for you. Your DH is telling you who he really is and what he really thinks of you. Listen.

MermaidMummy06 · 02/11/2023 04:55

Not nasty. My IL's have been abusive for 25 years. MIL passed last year. Now FIL has a plethora of medical issues & needs two knee replacement surgeries. I've made it clear, even though I'm SAHM, I'm not doing anything.

Not just because of their treatment of me, but I'm not becoming default carer of their parent so DH & SIL can carry on their fancy jobs and take the praise for caring for FIL.

Channellingsophistication · 02/11/2023 04:49

His parents his responsibilty not yours.

Saggypants · 02/11/2023 04:42

Millions of women people around the world manage to juggle full time work with caring responsibilities. Your lazy entitled DH can pull his socks up and get on with it.

Tighginn · 02/11/2023 04:33

I can just imagine your husband's petted lol that you haven't jumped to heal. How he has to play the victim to is narcissist parents.

Timeforsnacks · 02/11/2023 03:59

Say no! Infact if your husband brings it up again maybe tell him you are fine if he wants to go part time so that he could go to his parents to help them. At most I'd work a bit extra to cover household costs but stay away from doing any care.

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