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To not want to help FIL after surgery?

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fluffyboos · 01/11/2023 16:51

I dont have the best relationship with my in laws due to their past behaviour towards me.
FIL is especially very sarcastic, offensive and irritating.

FIL has come out of hospital due to surgery on his prostate and will be on bed rest for at least 4 weeks.

My husband wants me to go round with a box of chocolates and a card and offer to help and perhaps try and make peace.

My main issue is that when my own father was diagnosed with prostate cancer at the height of the lockdown, my in laws offered me no support whatsoever.

In fact my FIL even shouted at me calling me lazy for no reason whatsoever, he actually made me cry, all this whilst I couldnt even see my dad whilst he was receiving treatment.

Despite this I still did the bulk of my in laws chores in lockdown and never received a thank you or any appreciation.

I work part time where my husband and his sisters both work full time so they are limited on time.

My MIL has arthritis and will struggle to look after him on her own.

I dont see why I should be expected to help just because I work part time.

In laws are not grateful people and I have told my husband that they cant be nasty and ungrateful but expect help of me.

I have refused to go round and it is causing massive tension in the house.
Surely my husband and his siblings should arrange help between them?

They arent even my parents.

I am all for helping people but not when they have been so disrespectful and nasty towards me.

My husband is now quite upset and not really talking.

Am I being nasty like my husband says?

OP posts:
Naunet · 02/11/2023 09:32

My husband has just got back from visiting them and they are disappointed/ hurt that nobody apart from my husband has offered to help

I’d sympathise with him and tell him how hard it must be for his parents to realise they raised their own children so badly.

OceanicBoundlessness · 02/11/2023 09:30

My husband has just got back from visiting them and they are disappointed/ hurt that nobody apart from my husband has offered to help.

They'll get over it and maybe they'll reflect on why that is but most likely they won't. Either way it doesn't deserve your mental energy.

SinnerBoy · 02/11/2023 09:29

It's not tit for tat.

It's just tit for.

fluffyboos simply isn't tatting.

OceanicBoundlessness · 02/11/2023 09:27

It's not about tit for tat, it's about the op putting her own oxygen mask on first and looking after her own energy and emotional reserves.
If the op gets a buzz out of the thankless job of 'being the better person' that's fine, but if it's going to be detrimental to her, then don't do it.

Naunet · 02/11/2023 09:27

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

IT IS NOT ‘GOOD BEHAVIOUR’ TO RUN AROUND LIKE A DOORMAT AFTER ABUSIVE MEN.

diddl · 02/11/2023 09:26

My husband has just got back from visiting them and they are disappointed/ hurt that nobody apart from my husband has offered to help.

I think the only response to that is "oh dear".

JaneyGee · 02/11/2023 09:24

It annoys me that some people go through life behaving badly – being rude, selfish, unkind, etc – and yet when they're ill expect others to rally round. And they do rally round! There are so many good, kind, gentle people out there with no support at all. If me, I'd say "f- him...I'm going to help my sweet old neighbour whose wife just died and who has no one."

LumiB · 02/11/2023 09:21

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

I would never ever deliberately put myself in a situation where i will be verbally abused, there is no need for me to do that. Infact its stronger to say no! No I will not accept that behaviour and I will not subject myself to it. That is what I'd call modelling good behaviour: standing up for your own boundaries.

Is this what you would tell a child being bullied? Go model good behaviour and keep trying to be friends with someone who is basically a bully. You absolutely would not!

Absolutely disgusting to read your comment.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 02/11/2023 09:20

As pps said: tell your DH that you will support him if he wants to support his parents. And I would also be extremely surprised if 4 weeks of bedrest was actually recommended..

In your position I would try to remember the following:

  1. not your parents.
  2. your help during the lockdown was not appreciated.
  3. you received verbal abuse instead of appreciation.
  4. it is not your duty to make up for their children´s lack of help.
  5. your DH has never offered to help with your parents.
  6. you are presumably already very busy with PT work, housework and childcare. You may not work FT but you have a lot of other duties and chores that your DH doesn´t.
Tessasanderson · 02/11/2023 09:19

Sounds like the acorn hasnt fallen far from the tree. Your DH is acting in a similar manner to his parents. If you dont like it from the in laws then 1st step is to make it clear you wont take it from DH.

HagoftheNorth · 02/11/2023 09:17

OP, notice how you’re relationahip with PIL deteriorated once you started to help them out with chores. I wonder if you being willing to do their chores made you, in their eyes, lower status? As everyone has said, you are definitely not being unreasonable. Stick to your guns!

FerretFarago · 02/11/2023 09:17

Maybe FIL has been nasty to the SILs in the past and that’s why they aren’t flocking to his side now.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 02/11/2023 09:14

I would encourage and support your dh to consider either going part time or condensed hours so he can provide some support in the coming years if he strongly feels that this should be family supporting them.

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/11/2023 09:14

@Gerrataere

Well said.

That is exactly what will happen.

Gerrataere · 02/11/2023 09:11

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person.

You mean modelling good ‘female’ behaviour, don’t you? Because realistically this is because the op is a woman and her husband shouldn’t be expected for go the extra mile to help his own parents for some unknown reason.

It wouldn’t make her weak, but a skivvy? Absolutely. It won’t stop here, this is the first step to ‘elderly people need care’. It won’t stop after the 4 weeks, this is simply the introduction to the next few years if she doesn’t put her foot down now. It’s not the OPs job to care for these people, it’s her husband’s and any siblings.

SinnerBoy · 02/11/2023 09:10

MooFroo · Today 08:28

^Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!
OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.I t’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half^

They have spent years being horrible to her and now they expect her to be all hearts and flowers. She's right to tell them to get stuffed.

justasking111 · 02/11/2023 09:07

OH had this operation he walked out of the hospital. The only issue was bladder control. He needed to be near a loo for a bit. I'd ask his surgery what help they can get and your local council if he's wanting help.

GCAcademic · 02/11/2023 09:06

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

It's not going to change his behaviour in the slightest. It's clear from what the OP has written that her ILs don't appreciate anything she does. Why would they suddenly change their ingrained attitudes and behaviour now? There's no value in showing that you are a better person than a shit person, either.

Gerrataere · 02/11/2023 09:06

MooFroo · 02/11/2023 08:28

Why are so many people on here just nasty?!!

OPs DH asked her to pop round with chocolate and ASK if they need help - that’s all.

It’s just basic human courtesy stuff and something any supportive partner would do for their other half. I’ve done stuff to make DH look good in front of his family and he’s done the same for me - both happy to do so.

I would just do it OP and not make a massive deal out of it

And what if the in laws say ‘ah yes, here’s a list of things we need help with’. Can the the op say ‘oh no, I didn’t mean I was actually going to help. I can’t stand you 🙂’.

Yes partnerships work both ways. So the op should do exactly as much as her husband did to help when her own father was unwell.

Theydontknowthatweknowthattheyknow · 02/11/2023 09:06

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

It isn't tit for tat. It's refusing to have the literal piss taken out of you. There's a massive difference

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 02/11/2023 09:04

No. What goes around comes around. Anyone that would willingly go just to get further abuse is a doormat.

GCAcademic · 02/11/2023 09:04

Tell them you won't facilitate him doing something that will actively impede his recovery. Four weeks bedrest, indeed! When I had an abdominal hysterectomy I was make to get out of bed the following morning, and walk on stairs in the afternoon. It was made clear that keeping mobile was key to recovery and avoiding DVT.

nopuppiesallowed · 02/11/2023 09:02

I'm amazed at how many people think that tit for tat is an acceptable way to live. Modelling good behaviour for a few weeks to OP's father in law wouldn't make OP a skivvy or make her a weak person. To me, it makes her the stronger person if she CHOOSES to do something so difficult and unnatural. It might help to change his behaviour, but even if it doesn't - it shows that OP is a better person. (But 4 weeks bed rest can't be right).

Theydontknowthatweknowthattheyknow · 02/11/2023 09:00

Maddy70 · 02/11/2023 08:44

I would support your husband. He's worried about his parents. It won't kill you to go and take a box of chocolates and see if there of anything you can do. You don't have to do anything huge but help you should.

I would do this for a neighbour ..these are your family. You don't have to particularly like them but I'm assuming you like your husband

If he was that worried he's get off his arse and help himself. In laws aren't family unless they choose to welcome you into their family. Otherwise they're just people your partner has the misfortune of being related to and are therefore 100% your partner's problem

Jl2014 · 02/11/2023 08:58

His parents, his responsibility. You reap what you sow. His parents don’t deserve your care. Leave them to it and don’t be bullied into it.