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Tradesman Asked Me Out

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Creepy23 · 29/10/2023 14:52

I bought my first home recently and hired a company to complete part of the work I couldn't do myself. Met the sales manager very briefly twice to select the product.

He asked for my spare keys on the Friday so they could start early on Monday while I was at work. OK - gave them. Once he called to say the work was complete mid-day on Tuesday, I asked him to put the keys through my letter box before they left.

Instead he said he 'didn't know where he'd be that day' and asked to go to my work. I didn't respond. The next day he put the keys through my door. I made the full payment remotely and confirmed with a screenshot.

On Thursday morning, I received the following text out of the blue. I honestly found it shocking since I'd shown zero romantic interest in him, we'd only discussed the work and he appeared to be significantly older. Also pretty creepy that he had my keys and had hung onto them so he'd have an excuse to see me again.

I just didn't respond, blocked the number and changed my privacy settings. I've decided to do the other work in the house myself.

YABU - It's fine for men to ask you out once the job is complete
YANBU - It's creepy because he had your keys for days, knows where you live and lacks boundaries.

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Creepy2023 · 01/11/2023 16:22

QWERTYoutside · 01/11/2023 15:33

Yabu he only asked. All you needed to do is say no thank you. Blocking is an overreaction. Jeez world is gawn mad…. Man sees woman he fancies, asked her out and he is weird of high proportion 😳

Are you a man?

How would you feel if someone from your bank got your address or phone number off the system to ask you out? Creeped out? Well it's the same thing.

It's objectively illegal.

Perhaps if he'd asked out a woman from his own generation (at least 20+ years older than me) she'd have been less likely to have an issue with it. It's not acceptable nowadays to use someone's data for what you feel like.

QWERTYoutside · 01/11/2023 15:33

Yabu he only asked. All you needed to do is say no thank you. Blocking is an overreaction. Jeez world is gawn mad…. Man sees woman he fancies, asked her out and he is weird of high proportion 😳

Fahbeep · 01/11/2023 15:04

There will always be some people that downplay these things and say it's harmless. But it is a misuse of a person's personal data under GDPR as OP points out. And it makes it harder for woman generally to buy goods and services.

lilyblue5 · 01/11/2023 13:16

SoTired12 · 29/10/2023 20:05

😂 "incel"

Please tell me what you think"incel" means...

Opposite of Excel!? 🤣

BenjaminDisraeli · 01/11/2023 10:18

You did exactly the right thing OP. If I were a potential customer of this company I'd be very grateful that you shared that experience.

Of course this sales manager is polite and reasonable. Of course there's nothing you can pin on him as being threatening or aggressive, or that he or his company has let you down in any way. So what exactly is your complaint, madam?

Who cares what his motives are. He could be the most hopeless romantic on the planet. If he persists in making a customer feel uncomfortable he's got a problem and it needs to be called out.

FordAnglia · 01/11/2023 09:41

adriftinadenofvipers · 31/10/2023 11:56

Having sex is a bit of a reach from having coffee!!!!

agree
the really creepy men suggest a herbal tea

FreebieHound · 31/10/2023 21:01

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Fahbeep · 31/10/2023 20:28

OP. I think you did the right thing.

Palmasailor · 31/10/2023 18:01

None of that is any of your business or relevant.

good luck!

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 17:54

Palmasailor · 31/10/2023 17:51

Be sure to tell him the whole saga about the creepy tradesman and see how he reacts.

I've known him for years and did tell him.

Your comment history says you're a mid-50s male.

Ask yourself why you're on a site for women implying they'll be 'spinsters' if they report harassment.

You're the same sort of age as the guy who sent the message.

Palmasailor · 31/10/2023 17:51

Be sure to tell him the whole saga about the creepy tradesman and see how he reacts.

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 17:44

Palmasailor · 31/10/2023 17:40

My business is doing brilliantly well. Best of luck with your dating.

Thanks - I have a date this week.

Palmasailor · 31/10/2023 17:40

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 17:18

You identifying with a creepy (and illegal) action is your problem. Best of luck with your business.

My business is doing brilliantly well. Best of luck with your dating.

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You identifying with a creepy (and illegal) action is your problem. Best of luck with your business.

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SouthLondonMum22 · 31/10/2023 16:37

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 16:27

Thank you. I've felt better since leaving the review.

You absolutely made the right decision.

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 16:27

Thank you. I've felt better since leaving the review.

pikkumyy77 · 31/10/2023 16:08

Well done OP!

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 15:37

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66588085

"There might be this misperception that this is romantic. But it is not romantic - it's not okay, it can be very intimidating and actually it's against the law," she added.

Ms Keaney said that both the company and the individual employee could be held liable for such behaviour.

"The organisations have a responsibility that when anybody shares their data that they use it in the way that we would expect - just for the purposes that it has been shared," she said.

"If they are not doing that, that is potentially a breach of data protection law.
"But also, it is potentially an offence for that individual to be accessing info and using it for personal purposes. They could end up in court and being fined for that."

Stock image of phone user

Firms urged to stop 'text pests' hassling customers for dates

Watchdog says it is struck by how many people get unwanted propositions from staff who have their data.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66588085

Creepy2023 · 31/10/2023 15:34

OP - deleted my last account since a few of the replies were so misogynistic it put me off the site.

After reading the comments, I decided to leave an honest review. I said the quality of work was good etc. though the phone number I'd provided solely for the work to be completed had been used to ask me on a date and I felt this was inappropriate. I gave a good rating overall but clicked no for the 'would you recommend' box.

To address the other comments about me being 'hysterical' - no, I'm not changing my locks. I'm a reasonable person.

I just wanted to gauge why he might have done it.

I found an ICO statement:

https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs/2023/08/one-in-three-young-people-falling-prey-to-text-pests-as-ico-calls-for-victims-to-come-forward/

  • Research commissioned by the ICO reveals that 29% of 18-34-year-olds received unwanted contact after giving their personal information to a business.
  • 66% of the public believes it is not morally right to use personal details given for business purposes for romantic or sexual propositions. Only 5% believe it to be morally right.
  • “It is against the law.” - ICO takes steps to combat “text pests”, contacting major delivery companies to emphasise of legal obligations.

One in three young people falling prey to ‘text pests’ as ICO calls for victims to come forward

The Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) has today launched a call for victims of so-called ‘text pests’ to come forward to help the regulator gather evidence of the impact of this illegal behaviour.

https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs/2023/08/one-in-three-young-people-falling-prey-to-text-pests-as-ico-calls-for-victims-to-come-forward

adriftinadenofvipers · 31/10/2023 11:57

DeeCeeCherry · 30/10/2023 23:13

Imagine the person has your phone number, email address, bank account details, home address and had a key to your house for several days. You know nothing about them

Exactly. + your work address too.

From some of the stupid 'be kind' type replies on here I suspect some responders are men

Unclench. He doesn't have her work address.

adriftinadenofvipers · 31/10/2023 11:56

Fahbeep · 30/10/2023 09:49

It's not Confessions of a Window Cleaner circa 1975. Women should be able to buy goods and services without anxiety about being hit on. It's not appropriate for men to seek sex in those situations.

Having sex is a bit of a reach from having coffee!!!!

PinkMendinilla · 31/10/2023 11:40

Yes he was unprofessional but the OP is on high alert due to past experience and is in danger of this spoiling her moving into her lovely new house.

I fully understand her. Trust me. However I think she should at least give him the chance to take no for an answer and move on rather than expecting the worst and worrying about GDPR etc. From his messages re keys there is no evidence he was deliberately trying to follow her to work or stall her. I mean this for her mental health, not for the sake of being nice to random men taking chances asking women out.

Usually 'no' will be the end of the matter. Change the locks if it gives peace of mind. If it isn't the end of the matter, then you can move onto resporting him etc or worrying but why jump a step? Part of recovering from shit experiences is yes, being wise to risk but developing proportionality in your responses.

pikkumyy77 · 31/10/2023 11:19

Creepy23 · 29/10/2023 15:12

Imagine the person has your phone number, email address, bank account details, home address and had a key to your house for several days. You know nothing about them.

Tell me you'd give all this to a stranger on Tinder and feel ok about it.

OP is right. Its very creepy.

DeeCeeCherry · 30/10/2023 23:13

Imagine the person has your phone number, email address, bank account details, home address and had a key to your house for several days. You know nothing about them

Exactly. + your work address too.

From some of the stupid 'be kind' type replies on here I suspect some responders are men

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