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Help lower back pain

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Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 08:47

Appealing to the Mumsnet Hive mind! Looking for tips on how to deal with lower back pain and experience of how long it may go on for.

Sure it's a pulled muscle, nothing serious. Had it several years ago but I forget the detail. Fine lying luckily, awful sitting and getting up from sitting, trying ibuprofen, heat pad and gentle movement. Any advice thank you!

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bimbodoc · 03/11/2023 08:36

Move move move then move some more, painkillers only to allow you to move . Hanging from climbing frame is also useful. Move move and move. Back strengthening exercises such as press ups plank dead lifts etc.

Mintygreenleaf · 03/11/2023 08:32

@Groovee thank you, I feel I do need to take action just not sure of the right time. Scared of making it worse 😵‍💫I’m not in Edinburgh a lovely city but Cheshire if she has links. I’ll pm later and once I work out how!

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Mintygreenleaf · 03/11/2023 08:27

@ilovesooty thanks the Dr talked about a referral to musculoskeletal I think but in the end told me to come back if it gets worse. I’ve phoned back just to the receptionist yesterday and have a physio appointment at the surgery but not till the 20th - bit scared to do anything right now anyway! As though it still hurts it’s a lot less (thanks to pills probably as long as they last) and don’t want to make it worse

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Groovee · 03/11/2023 08:04

@Mintygreenleaf my current osteopath is a good friend of one of my closest friends. She really is quite holistic and very understanding of my body. My old one I found by googling and she was good but I didn't feel the connection. If you are near Edinburgh I can recommend mine. But she also has a good network that she can recommend closer to you if needs be. Pm me if you want.

Piglet89 · 03/11/2023 06:50

I have had severe low back pain because of 3 degenerated discs in my lower back. Debilitating attacks of pain every six weeks or so, lasting a week each, that left me completely immobile. Awful.

having read a book about the subject, which roundly debunks the theory that rest is best for back pain, I now work with a PT twice a week and have started doing deadlifts and squats with him to build muscle in the much neglected lower spine area, as well as stretching out sacro iliac area, hip flexors and psoas and strengthening glutes using bulgarian split squats among other things.

As others have said: sitting still for ages is worst for it (which is bad for me as I have a sedentary desk job). We are just not evolved to do this; it puts the most pressure on the lower back and so we need to move regularly. It is probably sitting still for long periods that will have wasted my lower back in the first place!

My PT’s stretches are all designed to open up areas that are closed and very tight in my “normal” life because I don’t move enough. Game changer and I haven’t had an attack since I started working with him 8 weeks ago.

ilovesooty · 03/11/2023 01:31

I went to a neurologist and had an MRI scan to get a definitive diagnosis for my back problem. He suggested spinal physiotherapy and recommended someone. She's the physio consultant for my local dance school.

She put some exercises in place and they're sent to my phone via an app. She's been building them up and adding to them at my fortnightly appointments and I have to do them every day. I've seen a lot of improvement.

HappiestSleeping · 03/11/2023 00:29

I had a car accident 30 odd years ago, and have severe lower back pain. Pilates has really helped. Femur rolls in particular.

Mintygreenleaf · 02/11/2023 23:56

Hi all, just thought I’d report back - bit of an essay- and thank you all for taking the time to share your advice when I was in pain on Sunday.

Still suffering! I’m a bit up and down but not quite as much as Sunday which is a relief.
@Groovee Saw a Dr Monday who offered naproxen which I remembered being hard on my stomach last time so didn’t take those up, and was already taking ibuprofen, silly of me in retrospect. He also prescribed diazepam for 5 days for the spasms they’ve helped at night. Only a day or so left of those 🤕
@ChazsBrilliantAttitude thank you so much for your tips, I’d forgotten I had some volterol gel (you too Marjorie and found it (only a year out of date so really useful to have to hand straight off on the Sunday), trying to remember the core and tongs great

@jc12689 I’m keeping moving, think I overdid it today, less walking and more household bits but so much better than sitting definitely

@ilovesooty
@Noblehound

@Groovee
am thinking now of some sportsphysio or osteo but honestly a bit scared of osteo! Can I ask how you got recommendations and what to expect if you have time?
@Robots1Humans0
thanks for the link will try when I feel confident, maybe next week?!

@youveturnedupwelldone thank you for the link, I probably do have hamstring issues never could touch my toes!
@kittyfayne @blythemummy @caringcarer @DiscoBeat hope you’re doing well Thanks again for replying

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Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 23:40

Thanks so much everyone. I just wanted to say after sis and BIL visit was acting as taxi service, not fun getting in and out of the car! Fortunately just a couple of short trips (inc one over mum's who has been out of hospital just over a week) but have read and will digest these.

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Robots1Humans0 · 29/10/2023 20:41

I have mild scoliosis and find not staying still for too long is key to prevention. If
you are able to, on you tube ‘yoga with Adrienne’ has a wonderful yoga for lower back pain video approx 20min long. I do this regularly and not always all the stretches, there are a few that work best for me. It’s not the usual breathwork and poses of yoga, just really good stretches for the back and hips. Hope you find some relief soon!

jc12689 · 29/10/2023 20:36

I get quite severe back pain every now and then.

For me the trick is to keep moving. Seriously can't stress that enough. Force yourself to move around regularly.

Co-codamol takes the edge off the pain and allows me to do this. You can take this with ibuprofen so you can stagger them. Obviously don't take co-codamol for too long. For me it's just to get me going or get out of bed.

Lots of good stretching exercises on line. Physio helps teach you how to do this effectively. Keep it up even when you're not suffering. Strengthening the muscles in your back will help prevent problems.

Look at your posture as this can contribute to back problems.

Hot baths also help.

This works for me. See your doctor and get advice from them.

Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 15:55

Thanks for all these tips and advice will read and take in just have sister and BIL here

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ilovesooty · 29/10/2023 13:52

I'm under a sports physiotherapist at the moment and it's made a fantastic difference.

youveturnedupwelldone · 29/10/2023 13:48

If you can bear it, try stretching out your hamstrings. A lot o lower back pain is made worse by tight hamstrings. I find this really helps.

This has various permutations, choose the most gentle one to start with: www.verywellfit.com/hamstring-stretches-2696359

Groovee · 29/10/2023 12:05

Go to the dr and get good pain relief. Maybe see about physio.

Put heat on it for a short while.

Gel like advance 7 gel or deep heat or deep freeze can help.

I fell off the sofa over a month ago and it's been a nightmare. Seeing an osteopath but now off the diazepam for my spasms that were happening. It's so debilitating.

Noblehound · 29/10/2023 11:28

Paracetamol is useful for muscle pain relief and can be taken with ibuprofen, I was told to use It longer term as improves it's effectiveness when in system than just taking once and is pretty safe. Unless like bulging/slipped disc then reducing pain enough so that you carry on moving about more easily while maintaining more normal body position helps gently stretch the affected area to avoid stiffening up, just be mindful of not overdoing it while not feeling as painful. Tens machines can be good for pain relief if find the combo doesn't help enough, for me it seems to help reduces spasms.
Warm bath with epsom salts and I was advised to alternate heat pad with ice pack where maybe inflammation going on but I can't stand cold so just stick with warmth.

I saw a sports physiotherapist for while after a car crash for whiplash/muscle sprains and they had like a big tens machine with heat which covered most lower back and was bliss along with hands on massage, did some acupuncture too. Made exercise/ stretches plan for home between sessions. Insurance covered but wasn't that expensive really per session for the benefit it gave.

A physio or osteopath may also offer laser (light) therapy which can be really useful to reduce inflammation & pain, it stimulates the cells to heal, as it's light you can't feel it. My arthritic dog had regular sessions for joints and muscles but i've also used on chronic back & muscle sprains with good results.

I used an osteopath after original injury which was also good, sometimes depends what type professional you have available locally. I never even got physio with NHS despite being in hospital weeks which probably contributed to my longer term alignment problems.

blythemummy · 29/10/2023 11:13

Lots of gentle stretching throughout the day
Walking
Ice for the first couple of days to reduce inflammation then heat to relax muscles
Ibuprofen and voltarol cream applied topically
Acupuncture on the area - it's brilliant
Time.

Sorry. I'm experiencing the same. Hurt my back last week. All of these have helped immensely. I expect to be as right as rain very soon, but not quite yet.

caringcarer · 29/10/2023 10:54

DiscoBeat · 29/10/2023 09:04

I have had back surgery and the Physio recommended heat 2-3 times a day. I bought a little heat pad (like a tiny electric blanket) which I use in bed - last thing at night for half hour, first thing in the morning and during the day sometimes.

A hot water bottle helps. Ibulieve gel also good.

Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 10:41

Thanks Random I actually did that but it was quite a while ago nearly 10 years and she said it was a facet joint of course I didn't keep the exercises up after a while did I! Still have the sheet and book she recommended somewhere. Have moved house since. Think it maybe too early to start perhaps? Things may also have moved on so will be worth going back

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RandomMess · 29/10/2023 10:26

I would go and pay to see a physio and find out actually which muscle/area is the problem and what exercises they want you to do to help.

My lower back pain is being cause by my gluteus maximum switching off so now I have some exercises to switching it back on.

Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 10:21

Chemenger off to google!

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Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 10:20

Thanks Chaz I'll try that it certainly didn't like it getting up after lying all night!

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Chemenger · 29/10/2023 10:07

I had something similar recently pulled one tiny muscle then the rest of my back sized up in sympathy. I found lying on my shakti spiked mat really helped to relax everything (I have a cheap version not the branded one). Otherwise keeping moving is helpful but I did find that I needed to lie down and rest as well.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 29/10/2023 10:00

Don't stay still too long. Lying flat isn't terribly good for your back and if you sit too long your hip flexors start to get tight and that affects your posture (press the front of your hips just above your thighs when you are sitting down and you'll see what I mean). Even if it's walking to the kitchen and back to get a cuppa try to get up every 30-45 mins and move gently.

Mintygreenleaf · 29/10/2023 09:56

Thank you Chaz, sorry to hear you are a veteran at this. Mmm it was a while ago I do remember being offered Naproxen at the GP and found it hard but they weren't enteric coated I found out after the event! Tongs sound great bending is the worst. What do you feel about rest or walking? When able!

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