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Stopped by old man

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Unsurehowtofeel · 18/10/2023 13:47

It's a strange one.

I was returning something in a supermarket today and as I walked in the alarms beeped. I was the only one walking in or out at the time so i knew it was me, but thought nothing of it and carried on to the customer service desk because A) I was walking in, not out and B) I didn't see or hear any security stopping me.

It's one of those supermarkets with automatic doors and a meter or so in is some electronic gates to enter the shop or to the left is open access for leaving. Customer service is also to the left.

Anyway, as I was making my way to customer services (walking against the traffic of people walking out) an old man and his wife blocked my way. I was confused. The man then held my trolly and started trying to turn it around towards a colleague stood behind on the other side of the doors (not customer services side) who in retrospect I think had tried to get my attention.

I have some social anxiety and at the time I was panicy thinking how can he (security) think I'm stealing when I'm walking in.

All security was asking in the end was whether the tag was still on it because he could remove it there for me.

Now I'm left feeling somewhat strange. The way an old man thought he could stop me from entering the shop and just his entitlement. Its made me feel all weird and icky. I dont know if it's because I didn't stick up for myself when I feel like I should have or whether it's because of his entitlement.

Just here to get it off my chest really 😂and any advice welcome for how to deal with men like that next time.

OP posts:
HazardLights · 18/10/2023 18:58

ShippingForecastMeditator · 18/10/2023 18:57

Everyone getting hissy about the guy's age being mentioned while seemingly being unaware his sex isn't relevant either (presuming he stopped the trolley with his hand and not his dick). 'A person stopped my trolley' is all that SHOULD be needed but we usually want more than that don't we?

We do, humans like details in their stories. Also, it is relevant that it’s a man. Men do often have a sense of entitlement. We do live in a patriarchy.

ShippingForecastMeditator · 18/10/2023 18:57

Everyone getting hissy about the guy's age being mentioned while seemingly being unaware his sex isn't relevant either (presuming he stopped the trolley with his hand and not his dick). 'A person stopped my trolley' is all that SHOULD be needed but we usually want more than that don't we?

Guesswho88 · 18/10/2023 18:56

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/10/2023 14:17

Bugger , pressed too soon. I was rather hopeful of your title, expecting a riveting tale of starvation and albatross slaying ….

‘It is an ancient Mariner,
And he stoppeth one of three.
'By thy long grey beard and glittering eye,
Now wherefore stopp'st thou me? ‘

but no such luck

Amazing 😁

HazardLights · 18/10/2023 18:55

Somanycats · 18/10/2023 18:36

How the hell do you manage to leave the house? An old man tried to direct your attention to security who you had ignored and what? You're frightened traumatized anxious. You need help. Badly. Start challenging yourself every day to do something that is difficult for you. You are not precious or special. People are entitled to get in your way, talk to you, shout at you even and you need to change your reaction.

I expect OP sometimes finds life difficult because there are people in the world that will, entirely and unnecessarily, have a go just to make themselves feel better in some very, very small way. She doesn’t need to do anything, particularly something that a bully on an online forum says.

I hope that you said this because you’re having a bad day. I hope that your day gets better. And that you don’t make anyone else feel the way this probably makes the OP feel. Has anyone ever done something that’s nice for you? How did that make you feel? Maybe worth considering.

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:45

Sayitaintso33 · 18/10/2023 18:37

It is as relevant as his sex.

I think both are relevant. I also think it significant that the man was with his wife.

I think an old man is more likely to stop a young woman in the circumstances the OP describes than a young man would. And even if I am wrong, the 'threat' posed by an old man is different to the threat posed by a young man.

😂

Sayitaintso33 · 18/10/2023 18:45

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 15:53

Yes because describing an incident with a black woman, for example, would be treated differently.

Black women behave just as white women do.

Old men, whether black or white, behave differently from young men.

Sayitaintso33 · 18/10/2023 18:37

BIWI · 18/10/2023 13:48

What does his age have to do with any of this?

It is as relevant as his sex.

I think both are relevant. I also think it significant that the man was with his wife.

I think an old man is more likely to stop a young woman in the circumstances the OP describes than a young man would. And even if I am wrong, the 'threat' posed by an old man is different to the threat posed by a young man.

Somanycats · 18/10/2023 18:36

How the hell do you manage to leave the house? An old man tried to direct your attention to security who you had ignored and what? You're frightened traumatized anxious. You need help. Badly. Start challenging yourself every day to do something that is difficult for you. You are not precious or special. People are entitled to get in your way, talk to you, shout at you even and you need to change your reaction.

GoonieGang · 18/10/2023 18:35

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 18/10/2023 18:08

He didn’t HAVE to. He chose to, knowing that his age would protect him against any comebacks. It’s entitled and rude

Yeah like she CHOSE to completely ignore the beeping and the staff who were trying to get her attention. Maybe there is rudeness and entitlement on both sides and perhaps if he posts I’ll tell him too

HazardLights · 18/10/2023 18:33

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:28

I gave your reply the notice it deserved. It was laughable.

Sounds good.

Hope you’re feeling better now, OP, and that this thread hasn’t made you feel twice as shit.

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 18/10/2023 18:32

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:17

And those people still haven't given a (credible) reason why it would be acceptable to have described the person by their race, if it was OK to do so by age.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that either. And I never said that there was. Confused It's only the people who are offended at someone mentioning someone else being in an older age group, who are offended by someone being described by their race, and I have NO idea why. It is literally just a bloody description of somebody!

People place far too much emphasis on words and terminology. Get a grip FGS. A person must have literally naff-all to worry about, if someone else describing another person by their race or age group, offends and upsets them so much.

All the shit going on in this world, and people are getting upset and angry at someone using the phrase 'he was an old man' to describe someone who was .. EXACTLY that!

And as I said, NOBODY says a fecking thing, when someone mentions a person is YOUNG!

I'm leaving this thread now. Some responses on here are just ludicrous, and I CBA with it anymore. If you're still reading @Unsurehowtofeel you have said nothing wrong.

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:28

HazardLights · 18/10/2023 18:21

I did actually give my reply to that. Perhaps you skimmed past it.

I gave your reply the notice it deserved. It was laughable.

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 18/10/2023 18:26

Ironfloor269 · 18/10/2023 18:18

I'd like to think I'd kick him in the nuts.

Grin
CatsAreBetterThanPpl · 18/10/2023 18:26

I think people here are getting a bit too focussed on the age thing and sure they wouldn't appreciate this happening to them while they're doing their shop.

OP, it this had happened to me I'd be asking why they were touching my trolley. What rights they had? I also probably would have been at risk of getting annoyed with them.

Total entitlement and nothing to do with Mr and Mrs do gooder busy body :)

GoonieGang · 18/10/2023 18:25

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 18/10/2023 18:13

Keep up @GoonieGang this was mentioned AGES ago by a few other (easily offended) people.

I would say it’s the OP who is easily offended, to the point she has to make an ageist post. And just because someone else has highlighted it already, doesn’t mean I can’t too 👍

HazardLights · 18/10/2023 18:21

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:17

And those people still haven't given a (credible) reason why it would be acceptable to have described the person by their race, if it was OK to do so by age.

I did actually give my reply to that. Perhaps you skimmed past it.

HazardLights · 18/10/2023 18:20

ilovesooty · 18/10/2023 16:08

It's not faux naive.

She didn't need to put age at the centre of the thread title.

Oh hi @ilovesooty I’m happy with my point and don’t fancy going round in circles on someone else’s thread, sure there’s plenty of others available though.

Ironfloor269 · 18/10/2023 18:18

I'd like to think I'd kick him in the nuts.

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:17

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 18/10/2023 18:13

Keep up @GoonieGang this was mentioned AGES ago by a few other (easily offended) people.

And those people still haven't given a (credible) reason why it would be acceptable to have described the person by their race, if it was OK to do so by age.

ilovemydogmore · 18/10/2023 18:16

Notamum12345577 · 18/10/2023 17:44

Some old men have nothing better to do than protect the world against ‘youngsters’ 😁, I think that OP mentioning that he was old was absolutely fine

Agree and I think people are being obtuse on purpose.

It's clear when someone's being a dick vs just being a nice helpful person.

The mention of 'old man in supermarket' conjures up a very specific type of busybody that likes to go round controlling situations and telling people what to do. We've all encountered them.

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 18/10/2023 18:15

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:06

What a surprise the anxious OP hasn't returned.

Are you really shocked? First post she gets has no empathy or help or advice, and only a scolding and a finger wagging - from a poster having a go at her for having the temerity to say he was an old man 🙄 Nothing else, just a 'telling off!' Followed by a few others jumping on the OP too. I don't blame the OP for not returning.

ilovemydogmore · 18/10/2023 18:14

OP the best way to stop feeling this way is just to shout back and match his energy. I used to be passive like this and stew for days, now I put people in their place and don't let them boss me around just because I'm a younger woman. It feels good! Shout at entitled old men!

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 18/10/2023 18:13

GoonieGang · 18/10/2023 18:00

What has old got to do with it? And you admit a store colleague was trying to get your attention and you knowingly ignored them; so why do you think he was entitled in any way?

Keep up @GoonieGang this was mentioned AGES ago by a few other (easily offended) people.

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 18/10/2023 18:08

GoonieGang · 18/10/2023 18:05

How to handle it? Stop when you bleep coming or going from a store. If you had done so the ‘old man’ wouldn’t have had to get involved

He didn’t HAVE to. He chose to, knowing that his age would protect him against any comebacks. It’s entitled and rude

Wonkasworld · 18/10/2023 18:06

What a surprise the anxious OP hasn't returned.