Why is it always men?

It is mostly men and women who kill hit the headlines big style for a reason. It is also almost exclusively men involved in the most horrific animal abuse. I'm talking about the torture and rape of defenceless creatures which they film and share with other "mostly" men.

It's a bit like when people suggest a large, strong and aggressive Bully XL is the exact same as a small angry jack Russell. Yeah they can both bite. Which ones more likely to kill you though.

Not always, but ALMOST always men.

Not sure you can extrapolate much from this (where did you get it from anyway?). In the whole of human history, there have been very very few women leaders. And many of them don't get to positions of power, without demonstrating very "male" traits - they have to almost out-male the males in order to demonstrate their capacity to lead.

If we did not have DV refuges for women, many of those women would be murdered. Refuges are not nice cosy places for recovery, they exist to stop women being killed, and being murdered after they leave.

To be blunt, if there is such s lack of provision for men, but still the great need that you claim, where are all the dead men?

There are not the dead men, as they are not being killed by their female partners.

i don’t doubt that there are men who are abused, (but I do think the pattern of female to male abuse is very different from the pattern of violence to women.), and I think there should be support for these men. But your attempts to claim some kind of parity in male and female experiences of DV, with just male shame hiding the equality, is just plain wrong.

This is not a case of the stats hiding the reality. This is just a case of the reality being different for the two sexes.

Women cause most of the aggravation in my family. That's not as bad as violence or sexual violence, but it is still aggravating.

Women rulers are more likely to declare war than males.
Women are vanishingly less likely to be rulers in the first place so the stats are practically much irrelevant

Look at the statistics. No it's not ALWAYS men. But given the vast numbers, it almost always is.

It's definitely mostly men. My DH says to our son and daughter that the world would be a better place if women ruled it. I think most reasonable men who watched the news would agree. War, murders, rape, basically all of the heinous crimes are committed by men, with a few exceptions. I say this with a wonderful husband, son, dad, brother etc. I think they'd all agree that men are the main problem.

Well it’s not a bad idea for certain individuals😁.

Women rulers are more likely to declare war than males.

Yanbu. The reckless driving, drug dealing, flytipping etc round here. Almost all men.

You're wrong, seriously wrong.

The stats on infanticide are that fathers are significantly more likely to kill their own children than mothers are.

Although, when you look at female murderers as a population, the majority of them have killed their own children rather than any other people. Women are indeed more likely to kill their own baby when compared to how likely they are to kill anyone.

Female murderers however make up about 7% of the population of murderers overall. So 93% of murderers are male, who they are guilty of killing children, adult men, and adult women.
Adult male murderers are more likely to kill other adult men, and less likely to kill babies than kill other men, but still kill babies more than mothers do.

Heard this interesting book being discussed by the authors on the radio (Times Radio https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/show/20231014-21262/2023-10-14
at 2:19:00 which may be of interest, discusses how we started off equal but this was suppressed once agriculture was developed and how violence and oppression are not inevitable/biological but a product of our society.
https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/why-men/

The fact a minority of women also abuse doesn't change the fact that its, in the huge majority, mainly men.

Abuse from anyone toward anyone is awful. But it's ludicrous to suggest there isn't a real issue in not only this country, but the world, with male violence that just is not seen in women to anywhere near the same extent.

@DelightfullyDotty lets castrate them? 😂

I once read a book about hormones and their effects (can’t remember what it was called) and it said that it isn’t testosterone alone that causes aggression, but testosterone and stress hormones in combination.

It’s perhaps also a reaction to the hormones of others and the circumstances. I say this because I have two male dogs who started fighting as soon as the younger dog reached adolescence. Younger dog was neutered and the fighting stopped within three days. Older dog is still intact and is extremely calm around people and all other dogs regardless of whether they’re intact or not. Neutered dog is far less calm. No I’m not sure what I’m trying to say either🤣

@Deathbyfluffy I said “nearly always”. I’m sorry for your experiences truly but you are in a vanishingly small comparative group.

Men in power cause wars.

I'll say but - but I was abused by a woman for many years, mentally and physically.
What excuse have you got in the bag for that then?

And to the OP, no - it's not always men.
I'm a male victim of domestic violence - if you like I'll paint you a picture and show you the scars from what I went through in the past.

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good man-bashing thread - it's been at least 12 hours since the last one!

It’s nearly always the men in positions of responsibility and power.

Men are the problem and if you say “but” then you don’t get it.

Goodness! Where do you live?

Actually, there is every demand for this and the first woman who created a refuge for men in London was ostracised by feminist circles. Erin Pizzey: The woman who looked beyond the bruises - BBC News

As someone who used to work with male victims of DV, I can vouch that the demand is there but not he provision. These men have absolutely nowhere to turn and often cannot even go as far as disclose to their friends and relatives because they are being mocked for "not standing up to a woman".

There a re a lot of domestic abuse cases where the perpetrator is a woman.

A lot 😂
I think you mean "a few".

To be fair they are desirable masculine traits. I would go further and say they are mandatory. Without physical strength and some level of aggression, men wouldn’t be able to do the work they do which means this world can function. I don’t see women in general digging up roads, working on oil rigs or getting up at 5am to drive a lorry.