Why is it always men?

Forgive my ignorance here, and sorry if i'm wrong, but did Thatcher not start the Falklands?

Think it depends who you ask regarding 'starting' it - Argentina's invasion was the inciting incident, but Thatcher was an extremely belligerent war leader (which some give her great credit for).

Is one of a very very small number of female serial killers. And even outside of that fact, the vast majority of murders are committed by men. Referencing one particularly depraved individual who happened to be female is of no relevance at all. The bald fact of it is, men kill much, much more than women. So chucking LL in there is pointless if you're attempting to say women are as bad as men in this regard. It is simply, demonstrably not true.

I'm definitely no fan of the female PMs we've had. They are all products of a male dominated political world though. We're obviously only the most rancid of females can get through to the very top. That's my take on it.

You're quite right, I only had May and Truss in mind.

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Aileen Wuornos committed murder in 1989....how many male murderers do you think have been convicted since then?

Forgive my ignorance here, and sorry if i'm wrong, but did Thatcher not start the Falklands?

Well no, they aren't good examples, but then they didn't start any wars either.

If you deindustrialise Britain's regions, devastate employment opportunities for a generatoon, and tank the UK economy you've probably done enough damage without starting a war.

Not all men are like that, but almost everyone like that is a man

Well no, they aren't good examples, but then they didn't start any wars either.

I'm sorry that happened to you. But you are comparing apples and pears. We're not talking about teenagers or children and girls versus boys. I dont disagree that teenage girls can be vicious bullies (on a side note though, its boys who are more likely to stab somebody to death) But adult actions. Mens actions specifically and how they are the group most likely to kill, rape and start wars that kill thousands, millions even.

I remeber doing something in college though, that said pretty much this. It was economics or accountancy or something, but the jist was that generally speaking, women tend to be more measured and essentially less trigger happy and aggressive. Resulting in fewer wars. So it's not entirely without merit (although obviously nuanced).

"My DH says to our son and daughter that the world would be a better place if women ruled it."
I know that this is meant well. But it's incredibly simplistic. Maybe it's true. So why aren't men either trying to make it happen or trying to make men better!!

I would if it was the dads who I see coddling and making excuses for their sons.

@Lolasgame "I will always blame boy mums for perpetuating this. They keep the toxic going and can’t see they’re doing a dangerous disservice to daughters "

I never understand this. Why not blame boy dads? They are the people who are modelling being a man to their sons!

Sadly, the three prime ministers our country have ever had have been surrounded by totally incompetent but unfathomably powerful men

The last two were also supported by remarkably incompetent women as well.

Sadly, the three prime ministers our country have ever had have been surrounded by totally incompetent but unfathomably powerful men...

Not once did I say, saying thanks to your son is toxic. I’m talking about the mums treating their sons with kid gloves etc making excuses for their sons etc.

The amount of times I’ve heard boy mums on here defending their ‘not my little Jonny he’s a perfect Angel/good boy etc.

Well, my daughter, nieces, friends daughters have to attend school/ride the bus/walk down the street minding their business, with all the ‘perfect little jonnies’ and lets just say most of them are entitled abusive little arseholes. I actually think that with the rise of the Andrew Tate’s of the world, misogyny will be worse than ever when these young men are fully fledged adults. I really fear for young women and girls.

Not sure what my social media habits have to do with anything, I’m an adult with lived experiences, I don’t need to go by strangers accounts of life on the internet.

My daughter likes bob ross too, sadly a lot of teens would think they’re too cool for that these days.

My DH says to our son and daughter that the world would be a better place if women ruled it. I think most reasonable men who watched the news would agree.

Sadly, the female prime ministers we have had do not remotely support this statement.

This is the final post I’ll make on this thread as I feel as though I’ve said what I’ve needed to and the thread will only divulge into more complaining.

Some comments are fair enough, I sort of disagree @Chickenkeev but again I think we’re seeing it from different perspectives. I’m not saying we should be on our hands and knees worshipping men for doing basic things, I’m saying as a society we need to be more appreciative of people in general, that’s why I said it’s gone beyond sex at this point. and I don’t believe it’s harmful to be kind to men or people in general, it’s a bit silly to assume that men will get angry if they do something without appreciation because if they did, then they wouldn’t be good men.

@Lolasgame personally I find that extremely disheartening to read. I recommend taking a step back from social media or at least this thread as it is getting out of hand. How is saying thank you to my son ‘toxic’? That’s a rhetorical question. I’m not calling you horrible or anything, but please just reflect on your stance and ask whether it’s fair to say something like that.

Teach your sons and daughters good role models, whether those be fictional or real (My son loves watching old bob ross videos), teach them to be appreciative of their life and themselves, keep them away from harmful things like pornography. and let’s hope that the next generation of men can be better than the previous, and the one after that and so on.

It’s 97% men. But we’re all supposed to pretend it’s because they’re Muslims or Jews or black or white or supremacist. They’re men. That’s what they all have in common.

Now list all the men who murdered someone during the same timeframe in which she was committing her crimes.

YANBU, it’s mostly men and that’s an undeniable fact.

I was bullied from year 6 to 12. The boys were arseholes and nasty but it was the girls who were worse. It was the girls who trapped me in a toilet cubical and threw piss over the door at me. It was the girls who beat me up on my way home, pushed me in the road in front of a car and spat on me. The boys were rude and called me names but it was the girls who were vicious, violent and brutal. I have been left with a deep distrust of women which will never leave me.

The men in my life, on contrast have been straightforward and honest relationships. I have some great friends who I've had since college and my therapist is the gentlest person, I trust him totally.

So no, I don't think its always men.

I will always blame boy mums for perpetuating this. They keep the toxic going and can’t see they’re doing a dangerous disservice to daughters everywhere.