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Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 00:30

All these trending posts about people worrying of their wood floors or not getting any takeaway food. Do we have any idea just how lucky we are to be complaining of such minor issues????! I’ve just sat and sobbed at some of the accounts I’ve been linked to on social media that show the true extent of the pain and devestation of all these poor Palestinian children. My heart is broken, we have to do something. I don’t know what. Please tell me what I can do.

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Hermittrismegistus · 15/10/2023 00:40

There is terrible shit happening all over the world everyday. At some point you just have to get on with it, crying does no good.

Donate to a charity or write to your mp if you feel the need to do something.

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 00:47

That’s fine and I acknowledge your opinion. But personally, I cannot sit and just accept that I should just get on with it when atrocities happen around us.

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Devilsmommy · 15/10/2023 00:56

Atrocities are happening all over the world everyday. If it's affecting you so much find a way you can help. But also speak to someone as I think you're a bit too emotionally invested. The rest of the world doesn't stop when this shit happens, so you can't complain about people carrying on with their lives when really, what should we all do?

ThinWomansBrain · 15/10/2023 00:57

what do you want to do - volunteer?

Whatsmyusername1235 · 15/10/2023 00:58

It’s horrible 😭

CarpeVitam · 15/10/2023 01:00

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 00:30

All these trending posts about people worrying of their wood floors or not getting any takeaway food. Do we have any idea just how lucky we are to be complaining of such minor issues????! I’ve just sat and sobbed at some of the accounts I’ve been linked to on social media that show the true extent of the pain and devestation of all these poor Palestinian children. My heart is broken, we have to do something. I don’t know what. Please tell me what I can do.

A quick 'google' would indicate you could help.

DecisionFatigue · 15/10/2023 01:01

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 00:47

That’s fine and I acknowledge your opinion. But personally, I cannot sit and just accept that I should just get on with it when atrocities happen around us.

I’m the same - I’m functioning at a basic level at the moment, not enjoying life. I can’t whilst I know how much the Palestinian people are suffering as we speak, it feels disrespectful. My husband works with a Palestinian guy, I can’t get his face out of my mind from when I saw him very briefly the other day. The pain in his eyes was like nothing I had seen before and I wished I had a magic wand to make everything instantly better for him.

I went to a demo today, they’re planned to be happening daily for the foreseeable across the country if you want to attend. Also, if you have anything spare you could donate to the Palestine Red Crescent Society for when they can access aid. Also share the media you see online, everybody needs to see what Israel is currently doing. There’s also a lot of misinformation/propaganda online - challenge it wherever if you can.

Fionaville · 15/10/2023 01:04

I have been watching. Yes, I'm shocked and saddened. I'm also worried about how much worse things will get. But, there isn't much we can do. We can't even get rid of our own corrupt government and sort out child poverty here, so what chance do we have of fixing such massive problems half way across the world?
The best thing for me, is to live our own lives in as positive a way as possible. Because quite frankly, who knows what's coming down the pipeline next?

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 01:07

I agree the world shouldn’t stop, but at the moment I just think our trending posts should be encouraging people to donate, raise awareness etc

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VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/10/2023 01:09

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 00:47

That’s fine and I acknowledge your opinion. But personally, I cannot sit and just accept that I should just get on with it when atrocities happen around us.

People are dying, but from your point of view it''s all about me.

Are you concerned about the atrocities in Mexico?

Colombia?

DecisionFatigue · 15/10/2023 01:10

Honestly I think the most impactful thing you can do is to share the media coming out of the Gaza Strip so as many people are aware of Israel’s actions as possible and to challenge any misinformation/propaganda online, which is an endless, repetitive task but a v important one.

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 01:11

I couldn’t care less about me, it’s disappointing that you’d interpret this as some sort of narcism

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DecisionFatigue · 15/10/2023 01:11

VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/10/2023 01:09

People are dying, but from your point of view it''s all about me.

Are you concerned about the atrocities in Mexico?

Colombia?

The UK government hasn’t given full support and funding to Mexico or Colombia to carry out a genocide.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/10/2023 01:25

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 01:11

I couldn’t care less about me, it’s disappointing that you’d interpret this as some sort of narcism

"My heart is broken, we have to do something. I don’t know what. Please tell me what I can do"

This is your original post. Note "My heart is broken".

Me me me.
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VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/10/2023 01:27

DecisionFatigue · 15/10/2023 01:11

The UK government hasn’t given full support and funding to Mexico or Colombia to carry out a genocide.

And this is relevant in what way?

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 01:38

Heaven forbid we express emotion @VeniVidiWeeWee won’t be acknowledging any further toxic posts as this is not about me or you!

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FickleProcrastinator · 15/10/2023 01:41

CarpeVitam · 15/10/2023 01:00

A quick 'google' would indicate you could help.

@CarpeVitam why don't you provide a few links to enlighten the OP? Afterall, that is what they asked for and may not have the accessibility to do it themselves. For what it took you to respond, you could've possibly thrown out a few links you've researched?

DecisionFatigue · 15/10/2023 02:00

VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/10/2023 01:27

And this is relevant in what way?

Most people in the UK feel utterly powerless as they watch a genocide happen in real time, fully backed by our bastard of a government. For as long as I can remember the people of Britain and Ireland have had a lot of love for the Palestinian people and their ongoing struggle, this isn’t something new.

The world is watching Israel kill thousands of innocent people, at least half of them children, without any remorse. They won’t stop until they’re gone. They’ve blocked all water, food and aid. They’ve cut the electricity and internet so that Palestinians cannot communicate with or show the world what is happening. They're killing the journalists who report on what’s happening without consequence. They’re telling people to evacuate and then bombing them as they do. They say that there is no such thing as an innocent Palestinian civilian but 50% of the civilians are children, all they want to do is play!

Palestinians are currently waiting for death at any second, they pray that they die together so that nobody has to look for the others. They pray their children die quickly so they do not feel pain. There are bombs falling all around them relentlessly and they’re just waiting for one to hit them.

People are angry and heartbroken because how can Israel get away with this? Why is the West funding this? Why are Israelis gleefully supporting this? Nothing has been learned from what has happened before, history is repeating itself and it’s making people want to shout about the injustice of it all. That’s not self centred, that’s being a decent, empathetic human being who wants to do something, anything, to help.

KarmasOnYourScent · 15/10/2023 03:32

Use google to find out how to help. Get in touch with charities, offer your help in time or money or both. Ask what else you can do. Contact your MP.

Terrible things are happening around the world every day. Those that want to do something just get on with it.

Berating others whilst doing fuck all apart from virtue signalling on mumsnet is 🙄

PurpleChrayne · 15/10/2023 04:13

Do something tangible if it means so much to you. Go and volunteer in Gaza, FFS.

Personally, I'm channeling my rage into donating my editing services to the mission to free the Israeli hostages, plus donating to the funds to equip IDF soldiers.

Put your money and skills where your mouth is, if it means so much to you.

5YearsLeft · 15/10/2023 05:13

KarmasOnYourScent · 15/10/2023 03:32

Use google to find out how to help. Get in touch with charities, offer your help in time or money or both. Ask what else you can do. Contact your MP.

Terrible things are happening around the world every day. Those that want to do something just get on with it.

Berating others whilst doing fuck all apart from virtue signalling on mumsnet is 🙄

@KarmasOnYourScent is spot on.

To be fair, these types of posts are useful in a way: they show you how well the propaganda is working. OP is “sobbing” over unsubstantiated social media accounts. To defend Hamas’ actions, we have the super team of China ( https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/11/israel-hamas-china-middle-east-policy-00120995 ), Saudi Arabia and Iran ( https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/12/irans-raisi-saudi-arabias-mbs-discuss-israel-hamas-war ). Throw in Russia ( https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/12/hamas-attack-exposes-deteriorating-ties-between-russia-and-israel ) and you really do have the superheroes of “shaping” internet opinion. If they can sway a US election, I’m sure they can turn Hamas into “heroes.”

Human Rights Watch examined four cases of Palestinian “children” being killed. They were all males between 15 and 17, which IS sad, but not the wide-eyed seven year olds so many are picturing. One case was truly wrong place, wrong time, it sounds, and the other three were throwing rocks, fireworks, and Molotov cocktails at Israeli vehicles. ( https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children ) On the other hand, we have actual photographs of very small Israeli children, under 5, killed in the past days by Hamas. More disturbing to me personally were the shots of Hamas with kidnapped Israeli children they’d allowed to live - they appeared to all be males (apologies for DM link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12628933/Video-shows-Hamas-holding-Israeli-toddlers-children-massacre.html ). So when we all saw the car seat covered in blood with a little dress next to it in the kibbutz… are they intentionally killing the girls?? Terrifying thought.

The point is that right now, SO much is unsubstantiated. I’ve shed a lot of tears in the past few days, but none of them were for a Facebook post. If someone wants to help, I recommend that they educate themselves on organizations that are trying to save war victims and displaced children worldwide (the situation of children starving in Sudan due to war is particularly heinous and has been happening since April, leading to completely substantiated reports of dozens of babies dying of starvation: https://www.voanews.com/amp/charity-estimates-500-children-died-of-hunger-in-sudan-since-april/7237409.html ) and give to those organizations that have a record of both success and good non-profit governance. Don’t just fall for some appeal that tugs at your heart strings, and may never send a single pound to help anyone.

Iran’s Raisi, Saudi Arabia’s MBS discuss Israel-Hamas war

Two leaders have first phone call since Tehran and Riyadh restored ties under a China-brokered deal in March.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/10/12/irans-raisi-saudi-arabias-mbs-discuss-israel-hamas-war

WandaWonder · 15/10/2023 05:21

Whathavewebecome1 · 15/10/2023 00:30

All these trending posts about people worrying of their wood floors or not getting any takeaway food. Do we have any idea just how lucky we are to be complaining of such minor issues????! I’ve just sat and sobbed at some of the accounts I’ve been linked to on social media that show the true extent of the pain and devestation of all these poor Palestinian children. My heart is broken, we have to do something. I don’t know what. Please tell me what I can do.

If this is genuine you need to seek professional help, there are also lots and lots of real help you can do rather than dramatically posting on a site that is full of 'small' (and no that is nothing against the small issues) then this is not the site for you

Tiredofopression · 15/10/2023 06:05

You want to send money to a heavily funded army that kills innocent Palestinians? Wow.

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GymBergerac · 15/10/2023 07:07

I expect I'll be shot down for this, but I'm concentrating on the stuff that affects those I love, close to home. Things I can do something about. DH's ongoing health issues, the mental health of a family member, and working hard to keep the bills paid.
I totally understand that atrocities happening abroad are hideous, but although I can be aware of them, I, personally, can't change them. And honestly, if I let myself get anxious about all the thousand of awful things happening all over the world that I can't fix, I'd be in a pit of despair and nothing that needed doing in my own life would get done. So tightly or wrongly I have stepped away from the majority of news coverage and am focusing on the lives I can affect.

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