To think we should avoid London right now?

@seafish this is a thread about London.

Yes, even Jeremy C**n had his little, tiny, very unrepresentative group of Jews from a very fringe sect, which he used as a fig leaf to try and fail to disguise his hatred of Jews.

It didn't work then and it doesn't work now either.

Because it is a settler colony. Historically the land belongs to Palestine, there are Jewish Palestinians, Christian Palestinians and Muslims too. The west wanted to expel the Jewish community so they chose to give them Palestine. They did not have the right to just take over a country. I understand that Jewish people may or have a homeland but they were welcomed and embraced to live side by side by Palestinians and they did for many years before they started expelling Palestinians in the Nakba of 1948.

The people of 'Israel' are not ethnically from the land. The tiny strip of land does not belong to them and now Palestinians do not have a home. Just because majority are muslim doesn't mean muslim countries see them as the same as their citizens. Same way other muslim middle eastern refugees are not welcomed into muslim countries with open arms. You can't expel citizens from their homeland and commit atrocious crimes for 75 years + and expect them to be happy.

Please do some research before posting such blasé comments.

Jewish people also attended this protest, asking for the atrocities towards Palestinians to stop, so you had nothing but your own narrative to be afraid of

You seem to be responding to a different post from the one I posted, and answering questions I didn't ask while ignoring the questions I did ask.

This is a thread about London. I'm a Londoner. I'm also a Jew. I asked if you think I and my children, who are Jewish, would have felt able to visit the national gallery today, roughly where that picture was taken.

I'm visibly muslim (I wear corporate clothing and headscarf) and have experienced hate crime twice this week on my way back from work due to the war. Although both times were from Americans not Brits.

Although it is a regular occurrence for myself but usually once a month a month or so but it's always heightened whenever there is something related to islam in the media. Lived in london my whole life so experienced.

I can imagine that Jewish community are also experiencing the same.

So i'd say YANBU as I think emotions are high and people are being more vocal than usually. However it entirely depends on the way you look, where you go and just pure luck. Most likely you will not experience any sort of hate crime particularly as the protest are mostly peaceful, but if you have some trauma i'd reschedule so you can enjoy yourself more later.

You’re being a bit daft because London is a big city, no trouble yet. Last big attack was in Manchester, incidents in Wales. Are you just going to stay in?
We live in London, there’s no overhanging feeling of doom or threat, it feels normal.

Glad you’ve posted the pictures. Pictures don’t lie, but I’m sure someone will come along soon and say this never happened and is taken from another event somewhere else………

@BlurredEdges You can stand up for the right of the Palestinians, call Israel out on their war crimes and the amount of international laws they’re breaking without being pro Hamas

I'm Jewish. This is my home. I was born here.

Do you think it would have been OK for me to go to the national gallery today? I'm a member and wanted to see some of the temporary exhibitions before they finish.

The pic below is of the march that went from broadcasting House to downing St via trafalgar Square. Do you think I'd be OK taking my (jewish) children through that?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67110119

Oh FFS. Protesters are not 'filling the streets'. I live and work and socialise in London and haven't seen anything.

Friendly as long as you know your place and don’t express an opinion if different to their’s. Then not so friendly I suspect…

Tbh, the police need to get a grip and disperse any of these protests taking place. They’re just a breeding ground for people who have an axe to grind about anything, and want to intimidate others just going about their business. Next step will be the looting. The flares and bottle throwing have already started. There’s no place on our streets for this kind of mob mentality.

@Anele22 i’m so sorry 😞 . Prayers for you and your family 🤍

I was down there last weekend and the only protesting was flags on cars and a lot of tooting.....but that was it..... There will always be a threat .... It's up to you how you figure out that risk....London is a huge city though.... So chances are you will avoid anything going on like that x

I guarantee you (as much as I can do, she might be an outlier and I don't know her) that your Israeli friend will be extremely grateful for you checking in with her.
I don't know any Jews who aren't very very badly affected by this, and almost all of us have lost extended family or friends one way or another. Even more so if she is actually Israeli, rather than a British Jew.

Thank you. x

No. London is as safe as ever it was. Protests rarely turn to violence in the UK and we cannot tell where there will be violence, either. If we run our lives in fear we are giving in to terror, too. A week after the 7/7 bombings my son and daughter, then in their twenties, went to London to visit museums and family. I was not worried but did tell my son not to wear a backpack - he is part Indian and quite dark, so this seemed a reasonable precaution. They were perfectly ok.

You're right, only some of the murdered babies were decapitated. Others were just hacked, shot or burned to death. Phew. Glad that's all OK then.

Was on Kensington high street yesterday, a small group of friendly protesters and there were a few armed police and vans where this was happening. I walked right past this protest………didn’t think twice!

That news about the babies have been deemed fake & the journalist has apologised for false news .. not that it helps now as it has gone viral and the apology won’t.

I live in central London about 300 yards from where the big demo Saturday afternoon was to pass. Went out around four, not a sign of anything. Just tons of shoppers. It’s where there are Jewish communities (Golders Green obvs) and schools (you’ll have seen the news) that there’s tension.

Without wishing to sound flippant I felt more concerned about that on the tube than anything else today!

I walked through Trafalgar Square at lunchtime to meet a friend in Soho. It was busy with the march but calm and orderly. Lots of people came to the restaurant I was in after the march - again, it felt absolutely fine.
The whole situation is unbearable. For Jews and Israelis, and Muslims and Palestinians. I'm far more concerned for everyone in Israel and Gaza and their safety - and for my Jewish friends in London- than I am for anyone in central London who is a passer through.
So to answer your question directly, central London seems fine, speaking as a white middle class Londoner who has no religious affiliations. I'm sure it feels different for other people.

Yes exactly that

Jewish people here have always tried to keep their heads down

So sorry about your cousin's situation

Colateral damage as far as Hamas are concerned