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To stop giving DS snacks?

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MooseBreath · 11/10/2023 09:15

DS is 3.5 and slightly taller than average and thin (can see ribs, no protruding tummy or baby fat). He is also quite heavy... When HV weighed him, she made him step on the scale three times because she couldn't believe the weight matched the child.

He does not eat his lunch or dinner about 50 percent of the time, but always eats breakfast. He is constantly asking for snacks. I limit them to one in the morning and one in the afternoon in the hopes that he will eat his lunch or dinner. Water is available all day without question. Below is a typical day...

Breakfast: Bowl of Cheerios in milk, pear and grapes.
Pester for snack x3
Snack: Granola bar
Pester for snack x3
Lunch: Macaroni cheese, slice of ham, carrot sticks, broccoli, apple juice (refused 25% of the time)
Pester for snack x3
Snack: Chocolate rice crackers and yogurt
Pester for snack x3
Dinner: Chicken with gravy, rice, and sweetcorn, glass of milk (refused 75% of the time)
Pester for snack x3
Tantrum about being hungry

I don't offer alternatives to meals, but never give DS food that I know he hates. There is always 1-2 "safe" foods on his plate, and others are things he has either never tried or has eaten and been ok with in the past.

Is this normal? This has been our system for as long as he can remember. AIBU to cut the snacks from his day? I don't know how else to get him to eat meals. What would you do?

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MooseBreath · 12/10/2023 22:41

@Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream We already have components separate for meals. The bolognese goes beside the fusilli, which goes beside the peas, which goes beside the cheese. I suppose the bolognese is a mixture, but it doesn't explain why he won't touch the plain pasta or cheese or peas!

We are going to start having snacks at the table to see if it makes a difference. I think PPs are right that he's not underweight and is healthy, so it's less of a worry that he's hunger striking.

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sprigatito · 12/10/2023 19:18

Lots of snacks and smaller meals are probably better for him at that age, he's only got a tiny tummy and learning to eat when he feels hungry is a good thing. So what if he doesn't eat a full dinner at the pre-ordained dinner time? As long as the snacks are varied and nutritious it's a perfectly viable way of eating.

Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream · 12/10/2023 19:15

Could it be an issue with sauces / food touching? Lots of toddlers go through phases where they have an issue with that and prefer individual items which your snacks are but your meals aren’t.

Also.. from an anthropological perspective, meals and snacks are merely social constructs anyway. The structure in our culture (3 large meals and one or two small snacks) isn’t the only correct one. I’d serve food you’re happy for him to eat, and which he enjoys, at times he’s hungry versus telling him to eat when he’s not (if that makes sense, I wasn’t that chill with my own kids! But hindsight is 20/20 lol).

MooseBreath · 11/10/2023 18:11

Well, I replaced snacks with the suggested alternatives (breadsticks in the morning and cheese and crackers in the afternoon). Snacks were at the table.

Today, DS had no lunch (chicken with gravy, rice, sweetcorn, and carrots) and no dinner (spaghetti Bolognese, peas, and cheese).

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WiddlinDiddlin · 11/10/2023 16:36

Breakfast is basically sugar, so I would expect he genuinely feels hungry when his blood glucose crashes, and then you give more sugary stuff... and so on.

Just changing breakfast to something proteiny and whole fruit (rather than sugary cereal and sugary juice) might make a significant difference to how the rest of the day pans out.

Timewasterextraordinaire · 11/10/2023 16:06

I would also change breakfast - porridge and fruit would be better than Cheerios - though I used to give Cheerios at 5am so we could stay in bed a bit longer so I can’t talk really

Timewasterextraordinaire · 11/10/2023 16:03

Offer savoury not sweet snacks only and see if anything changes

Hankunamatata · 11/10/2023 16:00

Our snacks are veg sticks. Bag carrots and cucumber easily do a week.

Mumofoneandone · 11/10/2023 15:59

If mine don't finish a meal, it comes out at the next food time. Snack or meal, whatever is next.
Snacks are nearly always sitting somewhere, rarely roaming.
Oat based breakfast or toast only.

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/10/2023 15:47

Maybe try a later lunch with you and family at weekend. May eat more /better

Just seems so early esp if have a snack

MooseBreath · 11/10/2023 15:17

@Blondeshavemorefun 11:30 is the time nursery gives DS lunch, so I am doing it for consistency. Schools also have lunch around then. I think for children who are up at 6am and in bed by 7pm, 11:30 is a reasonable time for lunch.

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Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 11/10/2023 14:55

My daughter is slightly younger (2.5) but exactly the same.
Always eats breakfast usually weetabix
hardly ever eats lunch
sometimes eats dinner
constantly looking for snacks.. I think it’s normal toddler nonsense. I’ve got two older children who were just like this at 2/3 and now eat normally so I’m hoping this one sorts herself out too at some point.

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/10/2023 14:50

MooseBreath · 11/10/2023 14:30

We already have meals and snacks at set times.

7:30am Breakfast
9:30am Snack
11:30am Lunch
2:30pm Snack
5:30pm Dinner

1130 is early for lunch unless has to be and pre school for 12;30

I would stop snacks or make literally fruit or bread stick

You give too many nice sugary snacks so if he doesn't eat much he knows will get a nice snack

Gypsum5 · 11/10/2023 14:40

He’s 3.5, give him what you have, & certainly no snacks if he can’t eat his meals.

Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream · 11/10/2023 14:32

I think some people are just naturally grazers. I wouldn’t cut out the snacks, in fact, counterintuitive as it sounds, I’d be giving more substantial / healthier snacks. Something like peanut butter toast, half a sandwich, some hummus and things to dip in it. A fruit bowl he can help himself to. Even at 17, my ds isn’t a three square meals guy, but he’s a great cook with a varied palate.

MooseBreath · 11/10/2023 14:30

We already have meals and snacks at set times.

7:30am Breakfast
9:30am Snack
11:30am Lunch
2:30pm Snack
5:30pm Dinner

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MooseBreath · 11/10/2023 14:28

I am swapping the morning snack for bread sticks and the afternoon snack for cheese/crackers. I am also going to swap in oatmeal every other morning.

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VineRipened · 11/10/2023 14:00

I would cut the sugar at breakfast and increase the protein. Cheerios plus grapes is quite sugary. And cheerio’s aren’t filling.

Wholemeal toast and peanut butter / cheese on toast / scrambled egg etc plus 1 type of fruit and some milk?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 11/10/2023 13:59

Those snacks aren't great. They are sugary and will want him asking for more.

I would cut out all snacks and if he's hungry just give him his lunch or dinner earlier.

It is such a waste if he is not eating his lunch and dinner and instead just eating sugary snacks.

stayathomer · 11/10/2023 13:58

I think you’ve two trains of thought in this thread- personally I think with growth spurts at this age I think you’re very 3 meals with a tiny bit thrown in but it depends on feeding times because if breakfast is eg 7 o clock and lunch is 1 then 1 cereal bar is pretty small, in the same way if dinner is 4 then a tea mightn’t do any harm. And a snack isn’t a bad thing if it’s fruit or veg, crackers and cheese etc! Ps multigrain cheerios aren’t that bad, people will always suggest porridge just because it’s filling but only 2 out of 4 here eat it and personally I’m not a fan for myself!! Best of luck op, you’re doing a fine job!

Thelnebriati · 11/10/2023 13:53

Does he feel full quickly? That might be worth looking into.

DelilahBucket · 11/10/2023 13:51

Of course he wants breakfast and snacks and not his other meals, look at what you are giving him, it's all sweet stuff. Stop giving him sweet stuff when he asks for a snack, make his breakfast savoury and you'll find the tables turn.

Excited101 · 11/10/2023 13:48

First thing I’d do in your case, is ditch the snacks- yes.

mindutopia · 11/10/2023 13:47

I think that seems perfectly normal for a 3.5 year old. I think the breakfast and snacks are quite sugary carb, which can lead to more hunger as doesn't fill them up. Something more substantial (like beans on toast - I'm aware beans do have lots of sugar/salt, but they are also more filling/protein heavy - or scrambled eggs and toast, or porridge, etc.). And for snacks, crackers and cheese, hummus and breadsticks, a boiled egg, cheese and a banana, something less sugar and higher in fat/protein.

Otherwise, I don't think it sounds like much food for a 3 year old (certainly not too much!). Mine were definitely eating more than that at 3 and were generally around 50th centile. Some kids are just heavier. It doesn't mean they are 'overweight'. They're growing. I had a friend whose dd was like that. She was like a tank. I couldn't life her. She was tall too and she didn't look overweight at all, but she was just so dense and heavy. That's just how she was built. She's a pre-teen now and a perfectly healthy weight, but quite tall. I think that was just part of her growth at that age.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 11/10/2023 13:45

He prefers chocolate rice and granola bars to dinners, as they often do. I'd limit them much more and I think he'd eat much more of his main meals.

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