New neighbour ring doorbell

This is how my camera operates.

Most are only activated to film if you ring the doorbell or leave/enter the property. They don't just keep on filming AFAIK.

I'd find that horribly intrusive.

Our NDN has got one that they positioned on their gate, and it was also covering our drive, pathway and our front door. I asked them to change the position of it as we didn't consent to constantly being filmed. Didn't go down very well but they did move it.

Just ask them to turn the camera off unless someone pushes it.

Under GDPR in Ireland we are not supposed to have a camera that videos the street. Your own driveway is fine.
The biggest alarm company in the country wouldn't fit one for me because of that- even though there is a driveway 🙄
But it's a grey area because if there has been a serious crime committed in the area the police ask for any footage people might have.

We have a ring camera and have very carefully set it up to only record when people actually come up the drive to our property. Not when people walk past on the pavement or when vehicles drive past. It is also angled specifically not to overlook the neighbours on that side. Mainly because we want to avoid any issues from any neighbours or frequent passers by.

I think it's odd for your neighbours to have installed a video doorbell like this inside the property, especially one that records on movement. If it's so they can see who is there before opening their door then it doesn't need to be motion activated. It just needs to activate when someone actually rings their doorbell. I think you're reasonable to be annoyed by it. But I'm not sure what action you can take to get them to change it.

I understand your point of view Op but please consider your neighbour probably cares less about you than you do about this camera. They aren't watching you.

we have ring door bells and also other cameras which cover our property as well as motion sensor security lights because one night when my husband was working away I was at home alone with 3 children when my home was broken into. It took me months to be able to close my eyes at night again when he was away and this security including my doorbell cameras helped me feel safe and feel that my children were safe. Consider this as well as all the other reasons that someone may want to secure there home, and also effectively yours. It's not just so they can spy.

Just wait until you order a parcel that says it's delivered to your doorstep and you get home and it's not there. You'll be knocking next door to ask to see the recording and suddenly you'll be grateful. Or (and I hope this never happens) one night you may be lying in bed and hear someone entering your home. The neighbours camera will surely deter an intruder to your property as well.

Why don't you just get your own camera and point it at their door?

Our ring doorbell we pay extra for it to record and store, other wise it just did it live. It does catch our neighbour sometimes and theirs probably catches ours. We changed the distance on ours as it was catching people on the pavement (not a flat) and we only wanted our front door. I can see why you feel uncomfortable but can see why your neighbour wants their doorbell too

Get a load of cheap fancy dress costumes and wear those when you walk past sometimes , don't forget to wave at the camera though

I think given it’s in an apartment block I’d be annoyed too. It’s not really needed.

^I agree with this.

I think it definitely feels different to be recorded by someone who knows who you are than by the many CCTV cameras when I'm out and about - anyone reviewing footage from those are unlikely to know me. Recording your own property up to boundary - fine, but private citizens regularly recording areas outside that every time you are walking to your door, that definitely would make me uncomfortable. It doesn't matter if the vast majority of people recording won't look or don't care what you are up to.

I'm with you op, no one should be able to record your comings and goings. In fact, it's safer if people aren't aware of your routine. Imagine the neighbour was ill intentioned and knew your routine so well he could hide somewhere nearby knowing you'll be home soon. I'm not sure what the answer is as I don't see them getting rid of it.

Criminals. Obviously. To steal stuff or because they benefit from it in some way.
E.g. to override footage when breaking & entering. Or to stalk people. Or to access your online data (credit card info and so on). Etc.
Google it. There's plenty of articles out there.

E.g.
https://veepn.com/blog/ring-doorbell-hacked/#:~:text=Can%20Ring%20be%20hacked%3F,a%20Ring%20doorbell%20or%20camera.

https://nordvpn.com/blog/ring-doorbell-hack/

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/smart-video-doorbells/article/video-doorbell-security-how-to-stop-your-smart-doorbell-from-being-hacked-aCklb4Y4rZnw

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/amazon-ring-hacked-ransomware

Who is hacking them and what do they achieve by doing so? I've not heard of this before.

YANBU. DH works in cyber security and is completely against these ring doorbells as they are very easily hacked (and we also don't have alexa or google echo for the same reason).

Whatever country you are in, assuming g you are in the EU, will have some sort of information regulator like the UK has the Information Commissioner. Look on their website and they should have guidance regarding your rights in this situation.

As a mobility impaired person I have Ring. We got it when DH worked away after the police caved in the neighbour's front door at 2am and scared the shit out of me in the process.

I also use it to speak to delivery drivers when I can't get to the door quick enough.

I see where you're coming from but really I've got better things to do with my time than virtually curtain twitch.

I think you are looking at this the wrong way. They know your comings and goings anyway (unless your sound insulation is MUCH better than ours!). It may well be useful to YOU to know who is walking past their place to get to yours - an added level of security for you.

I couldn’t waste the energy or headspace on being bothered about this. CCTV and cameras are everywhere. I welcome them; they could provide crucial evidence if a crime was committed, for example, and they offer protection.

“It's like if some one was staring out the window at you everytime you walked by or opened the door and watched you everytime you leave your house.” Nothing you could do about that either. I wouldn’t like particularly like it by the way! I’m not sure there’s anything you can do though.

You can get street view in germany - whoever said it was banned is talking crap.

Yes, I was going to say exactly this! And as I've been in France a number of years, I feel quite weird about the idea of being filmed in this situation.

This is an excellent point

Google started view is now in Germany. Started this year

We also have a ring doorbell that CAN record but we don't have it set up for that. We just wanted it as a deterrent to some anti social behaviour which actually benefits our neighbours too. We asked permission from them all first and they were all in agreement. You could ask about it recording if it puts your mind at ease?