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Yodel driver opened my front door

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Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 05/10/2023 10:57

Heard a knock at the door when I was in the bath. Shouted hang on, wrapped a towel round me and went downstairs.

Found Yodel driver stood in my doorway with the front door open taking a picture.

This isn't OK is it? I've tried calling Yodel but it's just automated and I've tried their live chat but that was useless too. I don't keep the front door locked if I'm in the house but will in future!

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greenhydrangea · 12/10/2023 13:58

and it turns out, I was not unreasonable. Sorry that hurts some of you who thinks I should have had an epiphany thanks to your comments.

Unreasonable to the bitter end.

And you've cost that poor driver his job (which you sound unreasonably pleased about) during a cost of living crisis.

FOJN · 12/10/2023 11:36

So you left the front door unlocked whilst you were in the bath because you don't expect people to open it without an invitation?

Unfortunately people who intend to steal from you or hurt you don't give a fuck about social conventions or the law so you were lucky it was just a delivery driver.

Rather than accept that you were shocked and treat the experience as a wake up call you have lost this man his job.

Well done.

Zingy123 · 12/10/2023 11:26

Poor driver. I work for RM and have accidentally opened front doors that I had assumed were porch doors lots of times. Hope you are happy they have now lost their job.

Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 12/10/2023 11:17

In a final uodate:

Yodel took this extremely seriously as it turns out. The driver won't be delivering to me (or I imagine anyone else) anymore. I can only say nice things about their response.

I'm sure lots of lovely people will now come and tell me how I awful I am, as is tradition here but to those of you living in the real world: this was very quickly rectified and it turns out, I was not unreasonable. Sorry that hurts some of you who thinks I should have had an epiphany thanks to your comments. but it is not acceptable for any of you to go around letting yourself into someone's home univited, whether or not the person is "asking for it" and no matter how much of a rush you are in.

Oh, and they are welcome to leave my parcels in the bin @vapesareforsnakes, if they did that, it would be classed as not delivered and the delivery company would need to refund the retailer, so its no problem for me at all xxx

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greenhydrangea · 05/10/2023 22:35

The moral of this story is that if you don't like strangers letting themselves into your house, lock the door because apparently large swathes of the community not only think this is acceptable but desirable.

No, the moral of the story is any householder who leaves their front door unlocked when they are out of sight for a period of time in the bath (and out of hearing if under the shower) and in particular naked and hence vulnerable is rather naive and one might say asking for trouble.

historyrepeatz · 05/10/2023 17:02

You can say yabu without being unkind.

Mumof2teens79 · 05/10/2023 16:33

If you only want kind messages in agreement don't ask people AIBU....you apparently alrthink you are not.

vapesareforsnakes · 05/10/2023 15:53

Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 05/10/2023 15:05

In an update: the retailer very kindly contacted Yodel without me asking them to.

Yodel have quite clearly said it's not OK, have apologised profusely and are looking into it urgently. I was read the response by the area manager and it does seem they are taking it seriously.

I love that on the one hand I'm stupid for not locking my door but on the other hand, I'm stupid for not being happy that the delivery person just let themselves in. It's not just the delivery man that can't win!

The moral of this story is that if you don't like strangers letting themselves into your house, lock the door because apparently large swathes of the community not only think this is acceptable but desirable. Let's hope those poor delivery people don't get bitten by a dog or accused of something they haven't done. Let's hope they are all honest and no one would use this to say they have delivered a parcel when they haven't.

Thank you to everyone who took the time to type out kind messages, whether or not they agreed with me. Also thank you to the less kind people, you have given me a great source of entertainment today.

Great, I am sure you are delighted that some poor fucker will get a bollicking for trying to deliver your mail safely and you closing the door in his face so he had no other option than to pick up the parcel and walk away. I hope the next parcel they leave is in your bin on bin day.

Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 05/10/2023 15:05

In an update: the retailer very kindly contacted Yodel without me asking them to.

Yodel have quite clearly said it's not OK, have apologised profusely and are looking into it urgently. I was read the response by the area manager and it does seem they are taking it seriously.

I love that on the one hand I'm stupid for not locking my door but on the other hand, I'm stupid for not being happy that the delivery person just let themselves in. It's not just the delivery man that can't win!

The moral of this story is that if you don't like strangers letting themselves into your house, lock the door because apparently large swathes of the community not only think this is acceptable but desirable. Let's hope those poor delivery people don't get bitten by a dog or accused of something they haven't done. Let's hope they are all honest and no one would use this to say they have delivered a parcel when they haven't.

Thank you to everyone who took the time to type out kind messages, whether or not they agreed with me. Also thank you to the less kind people, you have given me a great source of entertainment today.

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uncomfortablydumb53 · 05/10/2023 15:02

I have parcels delivered almost daily and I've never seen anything like this
The courier shouldn't have taken the parcel back if he heard to say " hang on"
I shout out as I'm disabled so they know I'm in, they often take Parcel and leave just outside my door then
He certainly shouldn't have just walked in

Bearbookagainandagain · 05/10/2023 14:46

Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 05/10/2023 12:00

Hey,

Thanks. Lots of people, including yourself have told ve IABU. I then made a post where I thanked those people for explaining to me why I am.

Thank you too, I have learned something today and I am not disagreeing with any of you. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this and have not said anyone else is wrong, just that it wasn't something I have heard of before.

I sincerely hope that helps you because I am agreeing with you. I've said I'm stupid, I've said I didn't know. I've agreed with people. I can't make that any clearer.

A lot of people said YANBU too, I think it about 50/50ish in the voting at the moment (and looking at the comments I would say people feel more strongly about you leaving your door unlocked than the situation with the delivery...).

For what it's worth, I think it's bonkers that the delivery man opened your front door to leave a parcel, and the fact that it wasn't locked is completely irrelevant - he shouldn't have tried in the first place.

The options for deliveries are clearly stated when you track your parcel: 1) you're at home, 2) deliver to neighbour or safe place. I have never heard or seen 3) open my front door if I don't answer, for an obvious safety reason!

pd339 · 05/10/2023 14:21

Happens all the time where I live (Devon). Better that than leaving parcels out in the rain in my view.

greenhydrangea · 05/10/2023 14:11

How come you're so laid back about him retrieving the parcel he'd just delivered?

It is alarming he opened your front door - but I would never leave my front door unlocked if I was taking a bath or shower.

IHaveAskedYouThriceNow · 05/10/2023 14:06

partypant · 05/10/2023 12:46

OP you haven't laid out prostate and flagellated yourself sufficiently for some posters

😂😂
Did you mean prostate?
(not being a pedant, just laughing at this!)

Wingedharpy · 05/10/2023 13:50

I run night classes for burglars @WillowCraft . - not really😉

Wingedharpy · 05/10/2023 13:47

WillowCraft · 05/10/2023 13:25

How can burglars get in but no one else then?

If the key is in the lock, a legitimate visitor, with their key, will not be able to get their key in situ from the outside.
Burglars come equipped with glass cutters, hooks, fishing rods and all manner of stuff to get access to the key in the lock via cutting hole in glass, using hook and hands through letter box etc.

Caiti19 · 05/10/2023 13:29

I feel these drivers are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If the parcel is left outside, they are open to complaints of "I was inside the house, why did he leave it outside - now it's drenched!"

If the door is open here, drivers will drop the parcel into the hall, which I appreciate.

WarmSunnySkies · 05/10/2023 13:26

No, YANBU at all, this is really inappropriate and a complete violation, assuming it wasnt in your delivery instructions he trespassed into your property without permission.

I'd be very angry if this happened to me, especially as you were only in a towel and vulnerable (and considering you may well have been in even more of a state of undress in your own home when he entered, which obviously you're well within your rights to be!) I do tend to keep my doors locked even when I'm home but wouldn't expect a delivery person to just wander in regardless. I would report this so it doesn't happen again.

WillowCraft · 05/10/2023 13:25

Wingedharpy · 05/10/2023 11:59

Don't leave keys in the lock.
If you keel over, (or drown in the bath), no-one else, with a door key, can get in to you.
Hang on a hook, near door, but out of sight/inaccessible to burglar from letter box.

How can burglars get in but no one else then?

WillowCraft · 05/10/2023 13:22

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 05/10/2023 11:56

@Neverwatchedgameofthrones

You're being unreasonable! You should lock your door from the inside - always, and especially when you're holed away in the bathroom. Anybody could walk in and rob you or attack you. Why are you not locking your door? That's a given, especially for a female on her own in the house.

Surely having the delivery man popping the package into the house, is better than having to re-arrange the delivery (and then possibly miss it again!!!) I think he did you a favour, and I think you're complaining for nothing. Lock your flipping door or dedicate a safe space for your package to be left. Did you not know the package was coming? These people give a 2 hour time slot. You must have known it was coming. What a lot of fuss about nothing. 🙄

Also

OP: "Am I being unreasonable???"

Majority of posters: "YES !!!"

OP: "No I'm not, you're all wrong."

Why do people do this?! Confused

Have you actually read any of the OP's replies? She has said that she was wrong lots of times! I feel you should apologise for your rather rude post.

hedgehoglurker · 05/10/2023 12:52

Wingedharpy · 05/10/2023 11:59

Don't leave keys in the lock.
If you keel over, (or drown in the bath), no-one else, with a door key, can get in to you.
Hang on a hook, near door, but out of sight/inaccessible to burglar from letter box.

I second this.

I similarly learnt when a driver opened the door and my puppy nearly escaped. To be fair, he probably thought it was a porch, but it's my boot/utility room.

We live rurally and with a large family, at least one door is often left unlocked by mistake. Children leave and return from front door for the school bus, adults leave from boot/ utility room door to walk dogs twice-daily or get to car on driveway. I check doors several times a day as I pass by and especially when alone.

partypant · 05/10/2023 12:46

OP you haven't laid out prostate and flagellated yourself sufficiently for some posters

CurlewKate · 05/10/2023 12:33

Sometimes I think I must be missing a bit of brain. In the OP's circumstances, I would have just said "Thank you!" and carried on with my day!

AlexaCanYouHearMe · 05/10/2023 12:15

Yants · 05/10/2023 12:03

Good to see that you’ve acknowledged it was entirely your own fault that this apparently highly distressing situation arose.

😂

Anyway @Neverwatchedgameofthrones lesson learned!!! No harm done!!!

Now go and watch Game of Thrones! Grin

Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 05/10/2023 12:08

Gypsum5 · 05/10/2023 12:07

Taking a bath with the door unlocked, seriously? He probably thought you were coming on to him slinking downstairs in a towel indeed! No wonder he ran for it & took the parcel.

😆

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