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Teacher not ready

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Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:34

DS is in year 4 and have been told the teacher will only read with him (hear him read) once or twice this year. Is this the norm? Really disappointed by this!!

OP posts:
MumDadBingoBlueyy · 04/10/2023 20:04

🤯 your child’s education is still your responsibility! We read together as part of our nighttime routine.

Thatladdo · 04/10/2023 20:03

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

😳
Gosh.

😂
More effort, less excuses!

FloweryName · 04/10/2023 20:01

Did they say anything at the meeting about reading in a group? There are plenty of opportunities for teachers to hear children read without sitting down 1-1 with a book.

Either way, reading with your child is not a responsibility you get to shirk if you want your child to do his best with reading. Even with a TA listening to them once a week, it’s the ten minutes daily practice with a parent that makes all the difference. Don’t understand how important it is.

ChildhoodNeglect · 04/10/2023 19:57

Year 4 homework this evening:
proof reading
TT rockstars
Reading
Spellings
an additional times table task

🤦🏽‍♀️

PurpleFlower1983 · 04/10/2023 19:57

He needs to read daily at home. Reading is a joint effort and school can only do so much. You working isn’t an excuse I’m afraid!

crumblingschools · 04/10/2023 19:56

Do you read to him?

ChildhoodNeglect · 04/10/2023 19:56

Hello child here in year 4 we listen for 20 mins each evening. Not sure how often teacher does.

ColleenDonaghy · 04/10/2023 19:55

Oh FFS. Year 4, not 4yo. Gets me every time - not everyone lives in England and the classes mean nothing to me.

Ignore my post above.

But 5 (?) years into school, how on earth have you not worked homework into the schedule?

ColleenDonaghy · 04/10/2023 19:54

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

Bluntly, you're going to need to find a way around this. Homework is now something that will need to feature in your routines - sympathies as we found it tough to adjust when ours started school last year. But it does need to be done.

Ours also hated doing any school work with us, she's more enthusiastic now in P2. We focussed on reading to her in bed, occasionally pointing at a word she'd know or be able to sound out. Then lots of incidental asking her to sound out words out and about - stop signs etc.

With the group reading in school she was fine, keeping up if not flying.

I asked her teacher about it at parent teacher meeting and she was very firm that we shouldn't push it with formal work at home - far more important to enjoy learning and enjoy school at this age. She could see DD was progressing and so could we.

This year she's happily reading to us.

Parental involvement is hugely important though, you can't leave his education solely to school.

Shinyandnew1 · 04/10/2023 19:51

Sorry, but if your child refuses to read to you, you need to make some changes somewhere.

listsandbudgets · 04/10/2023 19:51

OP will he not read because he's disinterested in what's in front of him. It doesn't need to be a "proper" book - discuss newspaper articles and get him to read bits out, look up things in encyclopaedias, read instruction manuals, go on to Trip Advisor and get him to read out reviews of his favourite (or least favourite) places, read the blurbs on the back of books, read recipes, .... even save the junk mail. Tailor his reading to his interests and see if it helps.

Also try ordering the Phoenix comic and see if that draws him in - it was what finally got my very reluctant DS to read

CurlewKate · 04/10/2023 19:50

Does he have AEN? My answer will be different if he has.

Notmyfandango · 04/10/2023 19:47

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

This is your issue - a year 4 child doesn't get to refuse to read to you. Step up and parent and don't expect your son's teacher to parent your child.

AffableApple · 04/10/2023 19:45

Come on, the OP was referring to being a working parent in the context of being asked to volunteer. Not in the context of spending 10 mins hearing a child read. Be reasonable, folks.

SpaceXStarship · 04/10/2023 19:43

Reading the 1-2-1 is something that is done at home. Im not trying to be harsh in my reply but honestly think about it. When does a teacher have time to listen to 30 children read individually. You need to be reading with your own child and take an active role in their education. It isn’t all on schools in this case.

Patchworksack · 04/10/2023 19:35

You can’t find time to read with one child but you expect the teacher to read with 30?
I volunteer one afternoon a week in our local primary to read with Y2 - school have decided to focus any volunteer help there so the children don’t progress to KS2 with poor reading skills. Adults hearing them read at home makes a massive difference - I can read with about 10 children but there are not enough volunteers for all of that year group to get a 1:1 even once a week. The school used to have 4TAs solely dedicated to reading practice - now there is 1 and she is also the librarian and a playground supervisor (so time for reading 1-2-1 limited).

ConnieTucker · 04/10/2023 19:34

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

You need to get a grip of behaviour. Easier now than when he is 13 and refusing to do any homework.

he doesn't get to refuse to read. When he goes to bed do you just read to him? Instead do a page each. That’s what I do with the 7yr old.

and ‘I work’ is a really crappy excuse for not hearing your own child read.

TeacherMcTeacherface · 04/10/2023 19:34

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

Don't be silly. By Y4, children should be reading fluently unless there are any SEND. Comprehension skills should be taught at this age.

Would you rather the teacher spend 10 mins listening to your child read? Then the other 29 children to make it fair? Which equates to 5 hours or a full day of just listening to kids read?

Leaving 4 days for everything else on an already overstuffed curriculum. Do you understand why this isn't possible?!

Yeah, YBU. Reading with your kid is YOUR job. It's one thing you can do to help them. If they won't read, well, frankly that's your problem.

arethereanyleftatall · 04/10/2023 19:32

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

This is your problem I'm afraid, not the teacher.

Most kids are reading fluently by year 4 (obvo not war and peace, but any vocabulary they know by then).

If your child isn't, it will be because his parents haven't been reading with him every night, like other parents do, and many of them work too.

Magien · 04/10/2023 19:32

What are you asking him to read to you?

Bemyclementine · 04/10/2023 19:30

Gangreenoh · 04/10/2023 18:48

I work! Also my son refuses to read to me

I work too. Still listening to ds2 read several times a week. If all else fails, do it in the car.

Ds1 rarely reads to me, but he's perfectly capable of reading to himself, he's also in year 4, I can't remember when he would have last read to a teacher

Didimum · 04/10/2023 19:29

RTGC · 04/10/2023 18:54

Most parents work and find time every single day to hear their kids read…

This was in response to volunteering at the school.

NumberTheory · 04/10/2023 19:29

My DC didn’t do any 1:1 reading with school staff or volunteers after year 2. They read out loud in groups in year 3 but I don’t think they did even that in year 4. So I don’t find it strange if he’s average or above.

Why are you disappointed? Does he need more help than most with reading? Why won’t he read to you? If you think he would benefit from it, do you have a friend or relative he would be okay reading out loud to? It’s frustrating if school are missing the basics, but important to plug that gap if you can as will have follow on impact all through school.

Outonaschoolnight · 04/10/2023 19:28

I teach year 6 currently. While I would love to listen to the children read, it just isn’t feasible or fair to make the other 30 work independently for an hour each day. We also wouldn’t come close to the covering the already too busy curriculum!

Mojodojocasahaus · 04/10/2023 19:27

Screamingabdabz · 04/10/2023 19:24

Reading should be a pleasure. It helps to support the rest of a child’s education so much that any decent parent of a 5 year old should be invested every day.

It really doesn’t matter that he won’t read to you. Pick lovely books and spend 30 mins before bed reading to him. Trail your finger across the words, use voices and emphasis. Make it a delightful lovely time together every day. Go to the library. Make reading and books a pleasure not a chore!

It helps getting them to bed too. Win win.

Child is year 4 (usually 8-9) not 5