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Canibearsed · 2023-10-02T20:44:19+00:00

Anyone watching? !! Can remember going to Florida in 2008 and my daughter was obsessed with Abercrombie wanting to try on clothes in their big store and worried that the sizes were too small …

TheLongGloriesOfTheWinterMoon · 03/10/2023 08:36

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

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You're the one whose kid nearly got scammed, not us.

FrancescaContini · 03/10/2023 08:34

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

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Agree with @AutumnFroglets Your first few posts give very few details. I thought the programme was about big clothing companies using slave labour to produce their goods, from what you wrote. What was the point of your personal anecdote about Florida?

Justifiedcheese · 03/10/2023 08:32

Tartareistasty · 03/10/2023 04:59

Canbearsed to NC
Canibearsed to explain properly in op 🙄
Hurry in a hope to be the first?
Even I rolled my eyes thinking what it has to do with sizes and what a weird take (but I already read the news)

And don't forget, when challenged claim the other person doesn't care about putting their children at risk.
Vile.

Justifiedcheese · 03/10/2023 08:28

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

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Ofgs. Not everyone watches TV all the time and people who don't immediately get it aren't uncaring. The sly implication that the person you replied to will put their kids in danger is self righteous nastiness.
Get over yourself and explain properly next time.

yogasaurus · 03/10/2023 05:13

My son was ‘scouted’ on Instagram a few years ago and I accompanied him to an agency in London. Am absolute con and young people being exploited!

Thats always a con. Must parents would know this.

I didn’t watch the show, have seen the Netflix documentary already, it’s a horrible company.

Also agree this probably want the intended episode.

Tartareistasty · 03/10/2023 04:59

Canbearsed to NC
Canibearsed to explain properly in op 🙄
Hurry in a hope to be the first?
Even I rolled my eyes thinking what it has to do with sizes and what a weird take (but I already read the news)

Tara24 · 03/10/2023 04:57

I assume that wasn't the intended Panorama programme.

SpringingChicken · 03/10/2023 04:47

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

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Ridiculous. You are not a caring mum just because you started a post on MN. You sound like a virtue signaller.

I don’t normally open threads about TV shows. Your title wasn’t about grooming but a TV programme.

Many of us have kept our teens safe and strive to keep our young adults safe. Responding to a post on MN is not how to measure how much you want to protect your teens 😂I am embarrassed for you.

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Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 01:00

ketchup07070 · 03/10/2023 00:11

As I understood these young men were promised help with their careers if they went to parties and meetings arranged by the CEO. They did not expect to be involved in sexual activity and were not able to easily leave once they arrived at the premises. There were allegations of trafficking as well, I think? It seems very serious to me. I have not had time to watch it, only read about it, so apologies if I have misunderstood. It's perhaps comparable to the Epstein case, in terms of exploitation and trafficking of vulnerable young people.

Thank you @ketchup07070 . You have explained better than me !

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Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:53

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/10/2023 00:43

No.

You titled your OP 'Panorama" and I clicked to see what it was about, but after reading it I was none the wiser.

Since then you've gone all stroppy, suggesting that people don't care about sexual exploitation and care about clothing sizes more, and that MNers are passive on the subject of grooming.

Why are you being weirdly obtuse?

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Not obtuse. Just didn’t realise that other people on MN are ! Started my post with good intentions to highlight how vulnerable children are inc my own child many years ago . Maybe title not clear but thought people would get the gist. Anyway that’s me off now.Night night X

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Isittimeformynapyet · 03/10/2023 00:43

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:29

So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️No am not cross ,just surprised that people are so passive.

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No.

You titled your OP 'Panorama" and I clicked to see what it was about, but after reading it I was none the wiser.

Since then you've gone all stroppy, suggesting that people don't care about sexual exploitation and care about clothing sizes more, and that MNers are passive on the subject of grooming.

Why are you being weirdly obtuse?

HeatherMoores · 03/10/2023 00:42

Panorama aside, you sound like you could start an argument in an empty room.

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 00:38

Where’s TheNightWotcha when you need her?!

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 00:38

Wtf is going on tonight?!

We have this thead which makes absolutely no sense. We have a troll going wild on the baby names board, insulting everyone and their dad. And to top it off we have the hallucinations thead which was downright trippy

ColdEvenings · 03/10/2023 00:37

Yalz · 03/10/2023 00:31

A Twitter post said the programme was supposed to be about a named someone else, but that couldn’t be broadcast for legal reasons.

I did look on twitter but couldn't see anything. I thought it might have been an expose on DW.

AllWeWantToDo · 03/10/2023 00:37

Testina · 03/10/2023 00:34

“So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️”

Well, you’re the one that put clothing sizes into your OP and nothing about coercion. You’re looking a bit silly there!

My thoughts exactly, absolutely nothing in ops post about coercion or teen exploitation . Yet the rest of us are the problem because we didn't know what she was on about

Testina · 03/10/2023 00:34

“So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️”

Well, you’re the one that put clothing sizes into your OP and nothing about coercion. You’re looking a bit silly there!

nocoolnamesleft · 03/10/2023 00:33

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:29

So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️No am not cross ,just surprised that people are so passive.

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No, We're saying that there are so few replies because your OP was blathering on about clothing sizes, instead of talking about sexual exploitation. Because clothing sizes don't exactly grab interest.

AllWeWantToDo · 03/10/2023 00:32

Well your first post going on about your daughter moaning about the small sizing of the clothes wasn't helpful at all

It wasn't until @ketchup07070 post that I understood what the program was about

Yalz · 03/10/2023 00:31

A Twitter post said the programme was supposed to be about a named someone else, but that couldn’t be broadcast for legal reasons.

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Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:29

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/10/2023 00:22

Like pp I honestly thought your post was about clothing sizes.

You sound cross with everyone! That's just daft.

And to infer that we don't care about the potential grooming of our young people because you didn't get enough replies is crazy. Do you think that you and Panorama are the first to bring this subject to our attention?

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So clothing sizes are more of a problem than kids being coerced 🤷‍♀️No am not cross ,just surprised that people are so passive.

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PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 00:26

Your post was so confusing I only understood what was going on due to the comments. How do you expect interest when people have probably clicked on and then clicked off the thread

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/10/2023 00:22

Canibearsed · 03/10/2023 00:00

Well the panorama program has been publicised on TV …sorry if my first post wasn’t clear Actually not sorry,am sure if I started a post about cleaners , education,housing there would have been more interest. Just hope your children are not mislead when they are older and have problems. I just started this thread as a caring Mum .

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Like pp I honestly thought your post was about clothing sizes.

You sound cross with everyone! That's just daft.

And to infer that we don't care about the potential grooming of our young people because you didn't get enough replies is crazy. Do you think that you and Panorama are the first to bring this subject to our attention?

ketchup07070 · 03/10/2023 00:11

As I understood these young men were promised help with their careers if they went to parties and meetings arranged by the CEO. They did not expect to be involved in sexual activity and were not able to easily leave once they arrived at the premises. There were allegations of trafficking as well, I think? It seems very serious to me. I have not had time to watch it, only read about it, so apologies if I have misunderstood. It's perhaps comparable to the Epstein case, in terms of exploitation and trafficking of vulnerable young people.

ColdEvenings · 03/10/2023 00:04

QueenOfHiraeth · 02/10/2023 23:55

I thought it was rather odd. It was touted as a big reveal but was about a CEO of an American company who resigned many years ago and most of us have never heard of.

There was also the suggestion that the young men making the allegations had been involved in the porn industry or received money for sex prior to these incidents which may weaken their case

I didn't watch it, but thought it was going to be a BIG REVEAL! Not a rehash of The Sun expose of a few years ago!

Very very strange!!