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Small issue with my neighbour…

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TakesTheCake · 02/10/2023 14:50

Our garden is slightly higher than our neighbour’s garden, and we share a fence with a kind of rut/dip underneath it. Half of my garden is lawn but the nearest portion is patio.

We have free ranging chickens and once a week I wash down the patio with the hose and a broom because of the chicken poo. Any bits go into the rut underneath but depending on how long I spend doing it, some water inevitably builds up in the rut and runs onto the neighbour’s path, alongside the fence.

We are on OK terms with the neighbour, though it’s an odd arrangement where our houses are on different streets so I actually have never seen the front of their house and am not sure where it is. We have chatted over the fence, though, and it’s always been friendly enough.

Yesterday I washed down the patio, and the neighbour was in her garden. It was clearly long enough to overspill onto her path as she yelled out that the water was coming onto her path. I apologised and immediately stopped, moving onto the portion of our patio where the water runs into our own flower bed and lawn. However she then yelled again (quite angrily) and said it was still running through. This could not have been additional water as I had moved past that point by then. She said to look over the fence and I did, and what I consider a small amount of water was wetting her path. Clear water not muddy or pooey water. I explained that I really had stopped cleaning that area as soon as she called the first time, and all run-off was now going onto our flower bed and lawn. It must have been just still dribbling through from before. She stomped off into the house angrily while I was standing there.

I’m really dismayed as I hate having any issues with the neighbours or bothering anyone. I feel like it’s just water and I’m not sure what the big deal is but now questioning myself. Should I stop ever using water on the back portion of our patio? We pressure clean it once a year too, and it’s completely unavoidable to stop the water going onto the neighbour’s path. I can try to avoid using water on that segment of the patio that butts right up against the shared fence, or do it as little as possible, but it’s not possible to avoid it altogether.

I want to hang a bag with box of our chickens’ eggs from a fence post so it’s on their side of the fence, with a note to say sorry, but not sure how to word it. “I’m sorry about the water but I don’t get what the big deal is” obviously isn’t an option, but “I’m sorry about the water and I’ll never do it again” isn’t a promise I can keep. I don’t know if the tiny gap at the bottom of the fence can be filled in but that’s something I will look into.

Any suggestions or perspectives? I know it is a small issue but I really want to avoid any bad feeling of any kind.

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Arewethebadguys · 05/10/2023 16:12

MaggieFS · 02/10/2023 15:01

You're filling the rut in your shared boundary with chicken shit. How lovely.

Omg this! You're hosing chicken shit into her garden. Wtaf

CosyFanTucci · 05/10/2023 15:53

Are you sure you're permitted to keep poultry where you live? Have you checked the covenants etc? As a chicken-keeper too, I'm very wary causing any issues around them (we're permitted but I don't want to open that can of worms). Personally, I think she's being precious about her path...

Gallowayan · 05/10/2023 15:47

Dig a trench along your side of the boundary and fill it with shingle. This will act as a soakaway so it won't happen again.

HerMammy · 05/10/2023 02:02

actually have never seen the front of their house and am not sure where it is
I'm mystified by this, how can you not figure this out?

Poodles23 · 05/10/2023 00:04

Cement a piece of concrete like an edging strip at the point where the water runs down into her garden, to stop it doing so.

GalaApples · 04/10/2023 13:12

Livelifebehappy
You seem to have the same entitled view as OP about the insignicance of water coming from her property onto a neighbour's. It may be just water to you, but it is an intrusion that a neighbour does not have to put up with.
The piece of official advice shown upthread says that water that flows naturally from a higher garden to a lower one is OK, giving the example of rainwater. But hosing down does not come into the 'natural' category as its source is deliberate. With you and your car washing it was careless and insensitive to your neighbour's feelings. With OP it is refusal to see the nuisance and upset she is unneccesarily causing the neighbour because of something she wants to do, as that is all that seems to matter.

passiveaggressivenonsense · 04/10/2023 13:06

Can you put some kind of raised edging along the border of the fence and patio, it needs to be just 2cm high, easy to do with a bit of mortar or aluminum trim screwed to the patio edge, so that the water is directed into your garden.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 04/10/2023 09:06

My old neighbours getting chickens was the final nail for us moving. He didn't clean them very well and chickens often encourage rats to the area, which his did.

The smell was awful, we wouldn't have cared about water coming in the garden if it meant he was actually cleaning them up. RSPCA didn't care at all about the welfare of these chickens.

She should be grateful she is living behind a considerate person who actually looks after their animals properly and keeps their garden clean and smell free.

hpelly · 04/10/2023 08:44

Look this up on Amazon: Quick Dam QD610-1 Water-Activated Flood Barrier-1 Pack, Black, 10-ft

BCSurvivor · 04/10/2023 08:19

Yes it rains and yes, her path would get wet with the rain, but that's a natural occurring situation and completely different to OP using the neighbours garden as a soakaway for her hose water, even ignoring the dirty water angle.
There's a vast difference between rain and deliberately wetting someone else's garden on a weekly basis.
Your neighbour didn't choose to have chickens of her own so she shouldn't be inconvenienced by yours.
Utterly selfish, and I can only imagine the amount of water over her garden when you powerwash your patio, albeit once a year.
I agree with @OrderOfTheKookaburra that temporary fencing and moving them around the lawn is the best idea.

LovelyIssues · 04/10/2023 07:18

I'd be cross with you to OP. Chicken poo smells vile

Fitrix29 · 04/10/2023 04:27

🤣🤣🤣 does she come out and shout at the rain clouds when they get her path wet too?! Don’t give her eggs and don’t apologise, she’s nuts!

Mothership4two · 04/10/2023 03:57

StarDolphins · 03/10/2023 12:46

My neighbour has chickens & I don’t mind in the slightest. You know a high number of gardens have unwashed rat piss in them right? Along with flies, bird poo & various other grim things.

If you don’t want to live next to neighbours with chickens that’s fine but you don’t speak for everyone.

My NDN kept chickens for years and we had no issues. Their NDN now does and so does another neighbour a three doors down to us. Other than hearing the sounds they make now and again we wouldn't know they were even there.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 04/10/2023 03:54

I'm fascinated by the fact that your bantams don't hover around your door. My chickens see my I think if they loiter with ill intent I'll cave and give them some treats. As a result I end up with so much chicken poo right outside my door it's horrid. I do have some fairly big chickens though.

I instead rejigged their accommodation and stopped them roaming all over the garden. They do have a decent amount of space though, I don't like the idea of them being limited to a tiny area. But my veggie patch kept getting decimated as they kept breaking into the netted raised garden beds so I had to do something.

FYI - you can get temporary fencing that will keep them penned into different areas of your garden which can be easily moved around. I'll do that eventually and let them roam the lawn and potted plants area occasionally but keep them out of the veggie patch.

seagulldown · 04/10/2023 03:13

This wouldn't bother me as a neighbour if it really happens as you describe. I have neighbours with chickens and I love hearing their noises and any eggs are a bonus too. We are all level though so no water run off.

I hope you can find a solution by either blocking the water or some sort of drainage solution so it doesn't end up next door. I don't think you are being unreasonable, but it clearly annoys them so if you can reduce your run off then I'm sure it would beneficial to the neighbourly relationships

mushti · 04/10/2023 02:42

Wash when it's raining. Then her garden is already wet.

Leave the eggs without a note; she'll know what they're for.

Mothership4two · 04/10/2023 02:37

VeronicasCloset · 03/10/2023 23:15

Gosh that’s a small garden for keeping chickens!

But absolutely fine for four bantams!

Hersecretserviceyourmaj · 04/10/2023 01:26

VeronicasCloset · 03/10/2023 23:15

Gosh that’s a small garden for keeping chickens!

It's not small at all.

OP, love your garden. The level of pretension on here is high. You can certainly tell who are the shoes off lot.

PandaExpress · 04/10/2023 00:47

She might have just been having a bad day. I'd do the eggs over the fence with a note just saying 'sorry about the water coming over'
She'll probably feel silly. If it happens again, just explain that it is just water. Everyone outraged saying its poo water! How do they manage to stop birds shitting in their garden?

Pottomous2 · 04/10/2023 00:40

Neighbour goes in garden to get something and ends up with wet feet from you washing your path again. Yep. That would properly annoy me too.

Owl55 · 04/10/2023 00:39

You could use metal edging from a garden centre to seal the small gap but surely the same thing happens when it rains if your garden is higher than hers ?

Underminer · 04/10/2023 00:12

French drain or soakaway, cheap to do and will massively help the problem.

I would love to keep chickens, but I essentially lazy and would find all the hygiene work too much. Would love a neighbour with chilckens though.

Redbushteaforme · 04/10/2023 00:08

Fellow pet hen keeper here! Why don't you just stop your chooks (they are lovely, by the way) going on to your patio by putting temporary fencing round it? You can buy green netting and movable pole supports which are not obtrusive or expensive and which are easily moved if necessary. Would that not sort out the problem as the patio wouldn't then need hosed down? I love my chooks but they don't get to free-range onto my patio as they are messy little blighters!

SylvieB74 · 03/10/2023 23:43

Just wash it down when it’s already pouring down with rain, then she won’t be complaining about you making her path wet, it already will be.

RandomButtons · 03/10/2023 23:35

You need to redesign the area so water doesn’t go on her land, or not allow chickens up there. Not ok to wash water onto her land.

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