Should I take the job?

Clydethecaterpillar · 2023-09-28T15:22:24+00:00

I’ve been offered a job in the big smoke as it were. one day a week in the office, im asking if they can do every other week and have it written into my contract. It would be a pricey train ride. But it’s a 10k pay rise. im conflicted. If you’ve read my other thread, I work at the same company as a former friend, and they’ve gone on the offensive, started a few rumours and they are more snr than me but a different area of the business. I applied for this job in anger after one allegation was made (it was promptly dismissed) and truthfully didn’t think I’d get the job, but to my surprise they offered it me. im conflicted. I live. 2.5 hr train ride away and it would be a long ass commute, but conversely people do more, people do Leeds to london. more money BUT less benefits, 5 days less holiday, less Life Insurance, less Mat leave 4 months v 26 weeks full pay. I also really like my line manager and the role is easy but sometimes boring. There’s also the allegations and a corporate ‘reimagining’ has just been announced no details what that looks like yet. Truthfully I’m doubting my abilities a bit too and I’d feel bad for leaving, I feel like I’d be letting my manager down. someone give my head a wobble (to use MN parlance) wwyd. Would you take it, if so why? If not, why not? tia. Appreciate your help on this one :)

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Clydethecaterpillar · 29/09/2023 20:40

HowcanIhelp123 · 29/09/2023 17:48

You'll probably have an exit interview, you can tell them exactly why you are leaving. You have been there less than a year, and you already have rumours, allegation etc as a result of workplace bullying, company is restructuring so you're concerned about the security of your job, and this job is offering higher pay/more remote working.

You can also highlight in the exit interview how great your boss was, big up all the things you enjoyed about the job. That you would have been very happy had more been done about the bullying and your job more secure.

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thats good advice! Thank you :)

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Clydethecaterpillar · 29/09/2023 17:16

I keep having thoughts that if I leave I’m letting people down or burning bridges because I’ve been there less than a year, or that it will reflect on my manager and they’ll hate me, but the truth is it’s this person and then CoL on top

You'll probably have an exit interview, you can tell them exactly why you are leaving. You have been there less than a year, and you already have rumours, allegation etc as a result of workplace bullying, company is restructuring so you're concerned about the security of your job, and this job is offering higher pay/more remote working.

You can also highlight in the exit interview how great your boss was, big up all the things you enjoyed about the job. That you would have been very happy had more been done about the bullying and your job more secure.

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Clydethecaterpillar · 29/09/2023 17:16

I keep having thoughts that if I leave I’m letting people down or burning bridges because I’ve been there less than a year, or that it will reflect on my manager and they’ll hate me, but the truth is it’s this person and then CoL on top

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Clydethecaterpillar · 29/09/2023 17:13

coxesorangepippin · 29/09/2023 17:03

What a huge amount of the company's time you have wasted if you don't take it.

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Ah yes. They'll be crying into their millions over the weekend but god forbid our op take a chance on a job.

Right! Or the time to reflect, the large corporate enterprise will surely crumble

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coxesorangepippin · 29/09/2023 17:03

What a huge amount of the company's time you have wasted if you don't take it.

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Ah yes. They'll be crying into their millions over the weekend but god forbid our op take a chance on a job.

HollaHolla · 29/09/2023 17:03

Take it!!!

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Clydethecaterpillar · 29/09/2023 17:01

So they upped the offer by another 5k per year and went down to every other week.

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SqueakyDinosaur · 28/09/2023 22:40

Obbydoo · 28/09/2023 18:35

Did you not think about this BEFORE you applied?! What a huge amount of the company's time you have wasted if you don't take it. It never ceases to amaze me how many people apply for jobs, go through the process and then start thinking about whether they actually want it. Beyond selfish!

Oh get stuffed! Companies waste candidates' time to a ridiculous degree. If the boot's on the other foot, so what? I say this as someone who spent 20 years doing interviews as part of my job for one of the big 4.

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Clydethecaterpillar · 28/09/2023 18:41

Obbydoo · 28/09/2023 18:35

Did you not think about this BEFORE you applied?! What a huge amount of the company's time you have wasted if you don't take it. It never ceases to amaze me how many people apply for jobs, go through the process and then start thinking about whether they actually want it. Beyond selfish!

Didn’t think I’d get it, we’re in negotiation of terms here, so they’ve not let the other candidates know if they were successful or not

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Obbydoo · 28/09/2023 18:35

Did you not think about this BEFORE you applied?! What a huge amount of the company's time you have wasted if you don't take it. It never ceases to amaze me how many people apply for jobs, go through the process and then start thinking about whether they actually want it. Beyond selfish!

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Clydethecaterpillar · 28/09/2023 18:28

Totaly · 28/09/2023 18:27

Take the new job. Think of it as a stepping stone. Give it a year, and then look to relocate to a new job.

Taking a new job does not have to be forever.

Even with a young family and less Mat pay… im nervous, it’s a step up for me, all the rumours have left me a bit shaken confidence wise x

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Totaly · 28/09/2023 18:27

Take the new job. Think of it as a stepping stone. Give it a year, and then look to relocate to a new job.

Taking a new job does not have to be forever.

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Clydethecaterpillar · 28/09/2023 18:23

CC222 · 28/09/2023 18:03

Sounds like the commute from the new job won't be half as stressful as having to deal with that toxic trouble maker where you are now...

That’s the thing this cow is like a HR case brewing because it seems unrelenting

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Clydethecaterpillar · 28/09/2023 18:23

coxesorangepippin · 28/09/2023 18:11

more money BUT less benefits, 5 days less holiday, less Life Insurance, less Mat leave 4 months v 26 weeks full pay

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Hmm. Will you be taking another mat leave?? Does your husband have insurance?

5 days less holiday is a full week!

I would love a 3rd kid yes, so ideally yes.

after 1 yr service the annual leave increases.

yes dh has Life Insurance and I’d still get some but it’s a lesser amount of annual salary

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SatsumaNightmare · 28/09/2023 18:11

Take it. Stats suggest people rarely regret taking the job.

coxesorangepippin · 28/09/2023 18:11

more money BUT less benefits, 5 days less holiday, less Life Insurance, less Mat leave 4 months v 26 weeks full pay

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Hmm. Will you be taking another mat leave?? Does your husband have insurance?

5 days less holiday is a full week!

CC222 · 28/09/2023 18:03

Sounds like the commute from the new job won't be half as stressful as having to deal with that toxic trouble maker where you are now...

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Clydethecaterpillar · 28/09/2023 17:57

CC222 · 28/09/2023 17:30

If it's mainly the increase in salary that's appealing to you, why not approach your current employer with the offer you've had and see if they'll increase your salary?

I’ve been in my current role less than a year and I’ve already have 3 rumours started about me, luckily I’ve got a solid manager and a good rating probably angering my nemesis

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Clydethecaterpillar · 28/09/2023 17:56

cocksstrideintheevening · 28/09/2023 17:41

Would tax / child benefit eligibility be affected?

I moved recently and needed a chunky increase to cover the loss in child benefit but I wouldn't drop benefit levels down. I do have to travel every other week London to Leeds but this is covered by work as my contracted office is London.

We already don’t get child benefit due to dh salary, I’d be moving into the same league as him, but I’ve done the salary after tax calculation and it’s about £700 a month more

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cocksstrideintheevening · 28/09/2023 17:41

Would tax / child benefit eligibility be affected?

I moved recently and needed a chunky increase to cover the loss in child benefit but I wouldn't drop benefit levels down. I do have to travel every other week London to Leeds but this is covered by work as my contracted office is London.

ikno · 28/09/2023 17:39

Sorry forgot to say, but when I travel I do shorter days in the office so I’m not expected to arrive at 9am necessarily or start commuting at 5am

HowcanIhelp123 · 28/09/2023 17:32

It sounds like getting out of your current work place will be best in the long run. You may end up redundant, you'd be easiest to remove if you haven't been there long, you wouldn't necessarily keep your manager and you have an arch nemesis. Even if shitty rumours are dismissed it isn't nice having stuff circulate about you and doesn't help career progression.

That said - whether the new job is right for you is a different question. It may have less benefits, but what about progression/training aspects? Do you currently work from office a lot so even if it was 1 day a week/fortnight in London office would you be home more overall? Could you use the 2 hour 30 commute to work on the train? That would be 5 extra hours of work when you go to london you could potentially use to shorten your other days and spend more time with kids after school.

If you don't take it I'd keep looking. If you take it and hate it, look and you have that new job on your CV.

ikno · 28/09/2023 17:31

I don’t know how much you earn but funnily enough I got a £12k pay rise this summer and I would say run to the new job. You can’t underestimate the impact of cost of living.

I have to travel occasionally and frankly travelling to London is a lot nicer than some of the random corners of the UK I need to go to. I’d take London any day of the week. Do you get a London allowance? Can you do all your monthly office days in a block? Will they offer you a train season ticket discount or something to alleviate costs?

Also when you’re the next level up, it’s easier for you to level transfer into a job closer to home so it’s beneficial for your future. Think long term vs short term.