AIBU to be utterly horrified by this? [Content warning - animal abuse]

When I think with my head, I am against the death penalty for a few reasons.

When I read the article linked above, my gut reaction is to think 'hand me the shotgun, I'll do it myself'.

But the real question is: should justice be determined by our gut reaction, or by logical reason?

(Not being goady, sometimes I am not so sure of the answer to that!)

Both the dogs and the monkeys are deeply distressing examples of the utter depravity some people are capable of. I don't doubt the world would be better off without them.

Well aware it was a bit off track.

It's just that animal cruelty (rightly) brings up huge upset in people and no one ever comes up with any possible mitigating circs (again rightly) so i wondered if anyone's knee jerk reaction for or against the death penalty is different in cases like this.

Arrrgh me too!

I can't see that it did happen today.... couldn't find anything?

crosspost Dusty!

The article says Britton was due to be sentenced today: 13/12/23.

Does anyone know if this has happened today?

Have been looking to see if he's been sentenced yet and I can't find anything. He's in prison, but was supposed to have a sentencing hearing in Dec.

Prison for life would be ok with me.

Different topic! But I don't support the death penalty in any case. Mainly because it doesn't act as a deterrent, doesn't solve anything other than a desire for vengeance & sometimes we get it wrong- that is, we could kill innocent people.

Waaay off track though!

Just out of interest - i wonder how many here would support the death penalty for this vile human?

Imagine being his wife. She's an academic/researcher with a strong career.

She filed for divorce and fled the country. As you would!

I feel for everyone who had to view the evidence, in order to have him arrested. Hopefully there won't be a jury trial.

Anyone as sadistic as to watch or perpetrate that kind of abuse is unsafe to be out and about.
They lack something.

Bizarrely I find it almost more shocking than child abuse. There are usually background factors in child abuse- poverty, compulsion, circumstance. Not excusing it in anyway. This kind of thing is utterly gratuitous- purely enjoyment and deliberately engaged with and sought out.

Thank you for the update. But I don't think I can watch. Some images can't be erased from the mind & I've heard enough about this putrid excuse for a person.

I do take your point & actually agree... but I cannot watch.

Just for an update if people are interested and still following this thread, do watch the videos on utube posted by:

The Monkey Sentinel
Mad Monkey Mayhem
Yardfish
Lady Freethinker

These people are fighting to stop the animal abuse on utube and it really is worth watching the videos for the information they give about the connection between animal abuse and the abuse of children. They're not for the faint-hearted but honestly I think everyone should be informed about it all.

Beyond hideous.

For the Australians, this monster was on an episode of The Cook & The Chef many years ago. Simon went up there to talk about crocodiles. SBS Food actually played the episode the other night, I was in shock! They should be deleting it from their archives instead!

I love that show but had to switch off, I can't look at that creature.

Same. Not much affects me but.. that was fucking awful and I wouldn't care if he was given a death penalty

I would imprison those who watch/ share pictures of child abuse also.
I think this individual has also tortured and killed the animals as well as sexually abuse them, from what I understand. I can’t actually bring myself to find out the full details of what he did as I know it will haunt me for years.

I feel so sorry for police and eventually juries that have to see these sorts of things.

They don't in prison the people, usually men who buy child abuse images, as much as this is horrific, it wouldn't be right for a greater punishment for animal abuse over child abuse. Re monkeys I had to close my mind off during Covid to what I knew would be happening to them and no, we didn't need most of the very painful monkey experiments. Not do we need the animal experiments that are taking place every day in the UK.

Yes they should be followed up and prosecuted. I would like these people publicly shamed, imprisoned and fined. No doubt it’s a global thing. This is what I hate about the internet. It’s bought so much good to the world, but then also a way for depravity to be distributed far and wide…..

Anyone who paid money for these animals to be tortured should be in as much trouble as the person carrying the sick acts out. They are as liable since they encouraged and paid for it.

I almost vomited when I read it - some people are utterly utterly despicable.

People come on here and say, ‘AIBU to be utterly horrified’ and it’s a massive spider. Nothing about the title implied it’d be about bloody animal abuse. MN have amended it now anyway

I came across a description of the '1 b*tch 9 pups' video this evening and had to stop reading. Perhaps the worst thing I have ever read. The man is utter evil.

Jesus Christ, what have I just read. That's utterly horrific.

@littlripper I was disagreeing that you needed any more warning, OP. I think you said enough to make it clear it was going to be something disturbing.

I'd advise caution before reading these. I haven't been able to get those poor monkeys out of my head since the article was first posted.

It's a relief that they caught him, but we need to catch the other viewers. These sick people should be imprisoned and put on a register