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Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 00:12

Been going on all day. Trouble swallowing, keep catching my breath, light headed. Did some meditation, hasn't really calmed it down. Went to lay in bed and felt worse all of a sudden. I spoke to someone earlier and it calmed it down a bit but then I had to go about my day. Don't know exactly what I'm anxious about. These keep happening out of nowhere. Just desperate for some support.

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Lizzieregina · 27/09/2023 01:20

@forsucksfake I have a friend who says exactly what you said regarding diet making all the difference. She follows a similar diet to yours.

Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:14

İ would love to go and sort my washing out right now, but I just can't move.

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Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:13

I was going to take her somewhere after school, a communal place I found, but I might just rest. Luckily don't have anything to do during the school hours. I think acknowledging my loneliness is helping me to calm down a little bit.

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Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:12

Funnily enough the panic attack started today whilst in the middle of eating something I knew I shouldn't have.

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Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 01:12

Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:06

She's four. I don't know why but music and noise is making me feel worse. I am getting tired. Too tired to play the game. Tried lying next to DD to try and sleep but anxiety still going insane. İt's like a drill going off in my head.

I understand that. Sometimes the only thing that helped with my breathing was excersise. I found I was holding my breathing and even if it was just star jumps it was forcing me to breathe. Have you got anything on tomorrow, can you just right it off and do the bare minimum.

Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:10

İ do live alone yes. Single. I never lived properly alone before being a mum as was always in house shares or with family. I can't get used to it. I always feel like 'ooh am I really here do I really exist' kinda thing, even with a little one around.

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forsucksfake · 27/09/2023 01:09

I used to suffer from panic attacks day and night. Terrifying. I understand what you are going through.

I hesitate to post this for fear of coming across as some kind of crank, but here we go:

What worked for me: a diet of healthy animal fats, meat, fish, vegetables, minimal fruit, and some nuts. Basically, a blood sugar lowering eating plan with minimal carbs. No bread/rice/pasta/root vegetables or sugar.

I know it may sound insane, but that is what helped me. 9 years ago. Once the attacks stopped, they never came back.

My eating is not as strict now, but I monitor my blood sugar levels. I try to eat protein before treats to slow the release of sugar.

Recently I was at an exhibition of an artist who is epileptic and her description of what she felt when an unavoidable fit was coming on was exactly what I experienced with panic attacks. And then I made the connection! The ketogenic diet was originally recommended as a way to help people with epilepsy. It wasn't about weight loss.

So as insane as this may sound, you might want to try eating a ketogenic diet )or as close as possible) to stabilise your blood sugar.

I really hope you find help out of the panic attack nightmare. Flowers

Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:07

Sorry I didn't see all the new replies. Feeling less alone now. Gonna read them.

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Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 01:06

She's four. I don't know why but music and noise is making me feel worse. I am getting tired. Too tired to play the game. Tried lying next to DD to try and sleep but anxiety still going insane. İt's like a drill going off in my head.

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Lizzieregina · 27/09/2023 01:06

Try the 4 square breathing. Breathe deeply for 10 seconds, hold breath for 10 seconds then breathe out slowly for 10 seconds. Repeat until you feel calmer. Also find a focal point in your room and fix your gaze as you breathe.

For the long term, I’d recommend an anti depressant (if the panic attacks are a regular thing) and/or a rescue medication (Xanax or klonopin) if they’re occasional
or for extreme attacks.

My son suffered from debilitating panic attacks and does CBT and ADs and it has made life worth living again.

Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 01:00

Sometimes I have to do the heavy duty meds when I feel like this, but also chamomile tea helps, along with rescue remedy. Sometimes it's also the action of doing these things. I also started vaping CBD about a year ago, I probably shouldn't be recommending it, but I don't vape normally and often I don't do it for several weeks or even months, again the action seems to help and I only use it at bedtime.

Filling your mind with anything is a go to, even if its utter crap on the tv or phone. Sitting doing nothing but thinking can be torturous

Do you mind if I ask whether your are single? I've found it harder without that constant comforting presence in the house, sometimes it's just the distraction. Nothing is unsurmountable and these feeling won't last forever.

PandaExpress · 27/09/2023 00:57

CBD will help you. Take some. Within 10 minutes you will feel your body relaxing.

PandaExpress · 27/09/2023 00:55

Two things help me in this situation. Firstly, acknowledge that it is an anxiety attack. The pains, breathlessness, being unable to swallow etc. It's all your bodies response to the anxiety running through your body. You are OK. You are safe. It's just tricking you into thinking you are having a serious medical episode. You aren't. You can breath and you can swallow. There is nothing medically stopping you.
Secondly, distractions help me. Sorting something out or fixing something. Sorting out the 'junk drawer' finding the super glue and fixing that thing I've been meaning to glue. Sorting out the sock drawer and putting the pairs back together or folding all your underwear in the drawer nicely. Anything that distracts and gives a little sense of accomplishment. Anxiety is losing control. So Sorting something out, gives you back that feeling of control until the attack is gone. In that moment, fully commit to having the neatest cutlery drawer you've ever had. It sounds bonkers, but it works. I got myself through some horrible attacks this way. I haven't had one for years, as my drawers could testify 🙈 Feel better soon 💐

CallieQ · 27/09/2023 00:53

Try alternate nostril or box breathing... or just count breaths backwards from a random number

cherryassam · 27/09/2023 00:49

How old is your LO? I find having someone else’s breathing to follow really helpful when I’m panicking. Could you put some headphones in and listen to a podcast or an audio book whilst lying down?

Try and take off any pressure about falling asleep. Focus on what you’re listening to - something funny works well for me.

Caerulea · 27/09/2023 00:47

Not sure on CBD cream I'm afraid. Given it's topical I doubt it will help.

Try the sorting game. Maybe look for Stardew Valley too. Again, it's something utterly low stress with no build-up or pressure that you're looking for. Just sweet & mundane & brainless.

You can deal with the practical stuff of getting support tomorrow, for now you just need something to distract you

Bingbangbongbash · 27/09/2023 00:41

I’d probably not use a screen if you can avoid it - the light will mess with you sleeping.

I don’t know about CBD I’m afraid.

keep breathing, only concentrate on the sound and rhythm of your body and your baby’s. Keep going. You will get through this.

Hersecretserviceyourmaj · 27/09/2023 00:40

You will be OK as you go off to sleep.at first, you even imagine you won't wake up! Your breathing will stabilise as you tire.

Cosycardigans · 27/09/2023 00:38

Will cbd cream help right now? I used some last week in the late afternoon for an ache and still woke up in the night hyperventilating so not sure.

Tried running my wrists under the cold tap, couldn't find animal crossing but have found a sorting game that might help. Am breathing slowly too. I feel like as soon as I start to try and sleep I'll start hyperventilating again. İt's like my brain is saying, nope don't relax, stay close to child and stay awake.

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Caerulea · 27/09/2023 00:36

@Cosycardigans Your anxiety will tell you absolutely everything you don't want to hear, true or otherwise. Anxiety is a vicious little twat that knows every button to press & will do so relentlessly. It also loves a mum.

I put off starting my sertraline for MONTHS cos I was scared of it making me worse. There is an initial few weeks of adjusting which can be weird but it's worth it. But your GP is the best person to talk to about that.

Another thing that helped me at my worse was tea with a good amount of valerian in. I'm not into herbs etc as a rule but this really helped (Sleeptime extra, was the one I used). Might have been in my mind cos I NEEDED it to help, but I really don't care, cos it did.

BabyFireflyx · 27/09/2023 00:35

Do you have music you like that makes you feel calm? I’m one of those for whom heavy metal helps me breathe slowly and easily if I’m stuck in panic attack mode. Any music you like might help soothe you.

Hersecretserviceyourmaj · 27/09/2023 00:35

Hyperventilating is extremely frightening when you first experience it. Anti depressants helped me years ago. Problem is, I'm addicted. Weaning off them has never worked, for me.

Bingbangbongbash · 27/09/2023 00:34

Antidepressants aren’t the only option. There are other medications they can offer like beta blockers or (short term) benzos.

there are also herbal remedies that might help, and therapies that can give you coping mechanisms.

But that’s all for tomorrow. Right now you just need to calm your body and mind enough to sleep.

cherryassam · 27/09/2023 00:29

And yes what @Bingbangbongbash says - it feels horrendous right now I know but you will get through this and you will be absolutely fine. I find that can be a really helpful mantra.

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