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Is anyone still isolating with covid?

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Whattodonut · 24/09/2023 11:38

My sister is- she caught it from a friend who hadn't mentioned she had a temperature when they met up. (Another thread- I'm annoyed about that on her behalf!)
She's done 3 days positive and says she's going to isolate until she's negative. She has a toddler who her DH is of course looking after but it means he'll be missing work to look after toddler until she's well.

She's worried about passing it around- our parents are elderly and I think I'd be angry if someone who knew they had it gave it to them. She does feel like shit but then if it were flu she would also feel like shit and carry on because... toddler.

What would you do?

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healthadvice123 · 30/09/2023 11:11

Just tested positive and I will isolate for 5 days , tbh don’t feel well enough to go out anyway
also going to isolate from dh and older teens as they all have jobs to go to so can’t afford to be ill and take time off either

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/09/2023 15:18

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · Yesterday 21:14
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Flu kills people including vulnerable people every year yet we never promoted self isolation

If you have ‘flu, you won’t be getting out of bed. Most people saying that have it have a heavy cold.

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · 27/09/2023 07:44

SaltyOne
I meant in recent times pre covid.

SaltyOne · 27/09/2023 03:14

@Blackandwhitemakesgrey

Flu kills people including vulnerable people every year yet we never promoted self isolation?

We did, actually. If you do a Google search for 'Influenza articles isolation historical' and click on 'images' you'll see plenty of newspaper ads and articles discussing isolation and quarantine for influenza (particularly in 1918).

Is anyone still isolating with covid?
QuestionableMouse · 26/09/2023 21:20

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · 26/09/2023 21:14

Flu kills people including vulnerable people every year yet we never promoted self isolation?

Most people are so unwell with flu that they tend to stay home anyway. Not like covid which can be mild in one person and then severe in the next. Flu symptoms are more set - everyone tends to be similarly unwell.

Blackandwhitemakesgrey · 26/09/2023 21:14

SaltyOne · 26/09/2023 01:44

@Lastchancechica

We have to remember that if covid was killing thousands of healthy people, we would have very strict guidelines still, enforcement I imagine too etc etc. For most people, as grim as covid is, it will pass. That’s why we have our normal lives back again.

So if covid was killing thousands of unhealthy people - vulnerable, disabled, elderly, obese, etc., - as it was as the beginning of the pandemic, does the same still apply? Would you support that?

Flu kills people including vulnerable people every year yet we never promoted self isolation?

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 26/09/2023 20:12

Lastchancechica · 25/09/2023 13:43

The new variant has only been circulating for a few weeks, so I think you had the old version. I accept it’s different for everyone, but I know not a single person that has this one would ever describe it as mild.

I had it just a few weeks back, and Dec 2020 and as I said my dad even more recently. It was mild for us both. (Me both times)

Tanktanktank · 26/09/2023 04:21

Currently day two of what I am thinking is a stinking cold. Covid testing negative at the moment. We still have a few tests left and keep wondering whether to continue testing. TBH only reason I’m testing is is DH would suffer with Covid awfully due to other health reasons but I think it’s too late now and he’d likely get it anyway. Which is exactly what happened last year when he got it and then a few days later I did (even though he was isolating in a bedroom).

I don’t feel great, I don’t need to go out, pre Covid I’d probably soldiered on, gone to work etc etc but now I think as I can stay home I will, just in case it is covid as would rather not be responsible for giving it to someone else who could end up a lot worse than me.

its a job to know quite what to think but I do think if you can easily stop it being spread to others by isolating then it’s the sensible thing to do.

Biker47 · 26/09/2023 03:14

Nope, I probably had it last week, not that I know as I didn't test, felt fine, slight cough and headaches, partner and kids have it now though. Didn't isolate the other time I had it in 2022 either.

SaltyOne · 26/09/2023 01:44

@Lastchancechica

We have to remember that if covid was killing thousands of healthy people, we would have very strict guidelines still, enforcement I imagine too etc etc. For most people, as grim as covid is, it will pass. That’s why we have our normal lives back again.

So if covid was killing thousands of unhealthy people - vulnerable, disabled, elderly, obese, etc., - as it was as the beginning of the pandemic, does the same still apply? Would you support that?

healthadvice123 · 26/09/2023 00:12

No as wouldn’t test for it now, whats the point no ones keeping figures
if i feel unwell i generally stay home and avoid others anyway,i have had covid 3 times, the first time i had no symptoms and was in height of all having to test.
technically with a cold we are contagious for some time, no one isolates for all that time they are contagious and colds can be bad for people
i just use a bit of common sense

Mercury2702 · 26/09/2023 00:11

same for us. I work on an elderly ward as a nurse and our policy is in work as normal with Covid as long as well enough wearing a mask. I’m day 2 of 5th Covid infection and deffo not well enough

Willow12345 · 26/09/2023 00:04

Currently on day 3 of covid and I'm isolating until negative. Couldn't work if I wanted to - feel too rough. Plus I would hate to pass this onto anyone vulnerable / immunocompromised.

PenisButterOnMyCuttedUpPear · 25/09/2023 23:58

I don't test. I would go by whether I had symptoms or not. Flu is just as deadly as covid if you're CEV anyway.

PenisButterOnMyCuttedUpPear · 25/09/2023 23:57

I would semi self isolate if I had covid symptoms . would go out if needed to but wouldn't if I didn't and would avoid hanging round people as far as I could

Yellowcakestand · 25/09/2023 23:54

Sorry - 3 of these are actually from a different building so 5 from ours and still have to revert to mask wearing

Yellowcakestand · 25/09/2023 23:53

As a follow up from my previous post here, we today have 8 staff out of almost 300 in the office who are positive for covid. Not allowed to come in, we have had to report to IPC and are now classed as in a 'breakout' and are back in masks.

wednesdayatone · 25/09/2023 22:27

I wouldn't know if i got covid as I won't test

So no. Most people don't isolate

midnightblue12 · 25/09/2023 20:47

Balloonhearts · 25/09/2023 14:04

No workplace can fire anyone for a single period of sickness. Be it 5 days or 1 day. Silly to say people aren't 'allowed' time off. They're entitled to it if sick. What would they do if it was noro or gastroenteritis? That can flatten you for weeks.

What would they do if their child was the one with chicken pox? That's at least a week off school. But they'd take that week because it's highly contagious And child can't go in until no longer infectious. Sorry but I'm not making anyone feel anything. It's up to you how you feel and if you feel like a terrible person, well, make of that what you will.

Well if you're assuming that one person only has just covid for the rolling 12 months and then your theory works, but that's just abit unrealistic isn't it.
My workplace only allow x amount of sick times. Once you exceed x amount of sickness you have to start having meetings with HR etc. not everyone and every work place can just take time off work when unwell... god if only it was so easy!!
Noro and chickenpox are different to covid. The Gp and schools and my workplace would not allow you in the office with that. My best friend works for the nhs as a nurse and is specifically told now to NOT test and if you have covid you still go into work unless unwell. That's not the advice they get for noro or chickenpox. They are different.
This is exactly my point, had you care to pay attention to it instead of just getting in the defence.
Some people can just isolate, some workplaces and schools may support that. Other people cannot.

Qilin · 25/09/2023 19:49

FrangipaniBlue · 25/09/2023 14:05

Why are people still testing?

It doesn't matter what you are ill/poorly with. It doesn't need a name.

Either you are too sick to go out and about/work, or you are not, in which case carry on.

If you feel grotty then it's the decent human thing to do to NOT go spreading it around.

But that applies to any illness.

Some people need to.

If I have covid - or another potential serious infection/virus such as flu, pneumonia, etc. - I have to stop one of my medication for a period of time to avoid further issues with my immunity.

It is also the way to access antiviral medication for those who may need it.

Some people have particularly vulnerable relatives/friends, such as those having chemo, etc and would rather avoid passing it on to those people. Hopefully they'd do the same with something like flu and a cold, but as there's a simple way to test for covid (unlike flu and colds where there isn't an available test available at low cost) it makes sense for some people to do so if in such situations.

Qilin · 25/09/2023 19:42

Anyway, covid is just another illness. As with any other illness its mild for some, deadly to others. I has a friend whose daughter nearly died from chicken pox! But life just can't stop for all illnesses.

You do know that the guidelines for chicken pox is to isolate away from others, and not go out knowingly spreading it?

And you are supposed to stay home for 48 hours after a bout of D&V, rather than still mixing and spreading it.

So yes - 'life' as it normally is does have to stop for some other illnesses too

Qilin · 25/09/2023 19:37

Rossannah · 24/09/2023 21:46

I have it and have carried on as usual. Been to work everyday and been out shopping all day yesterday. Been out for food and drinks today. Back in work tomorrow. Have a hospital appointment Tuesday and I'm going as I've waited 9 months for the appointment

Why did you bother testing if you aren't going to act in the results?

Qilin · 25/09/2023 19:33

She's worried about passing it around- our parents are elderly and I think I'd be angry if someone who knew they had it gave it to them. She does feel like shit but then if it were flu she would also feel like shit and carry on because... toddler.

Depends on how poorly she was with flu. I've had flu once, that I'm aware of. I couldn't have looked after a toddler. I spent days in bed unable to do very much at all. Someone would have had to help me out.

With covid I've never isolated within our home, from family members, even back in 2020. I'm the vulnerable one anyway and dh and dd never got it from me in the times I've had it, Likewise, dh and dd didn't give it to me when they've had it.

My school policy (follows the LEA guidelines) is that adults should stay home if ill with covid. The LEA's advice was, until very recently, adults should stay off work for 5 days. No idea if it's changed since the summer. The school staff who have had it since going back have all been ill enough to be off work regardless.

I test as it can affect my medication and I have to stop taking one of them. I'd need to with other infections too - for example I recently had pneumonia and had to do the same. It's also the way to get antivirals if needed.

neverbeenskiing · 25/09/2023 17:45

Balloonhearts · 25/09/2023 14:04

No workplace can fire anyone for a single period of sickness. Be it 5 days or 1 day. Silly to say people aren't 'allowed' time off. They're entitled to it if sick. What would they do if it was noro or gastroenteritis? That can flatten you for weeks.

What would they do if their child was the one with chicken pox? That's at least a week off school. But they'd take that week because it's highly contagious And child can't go in until no longer infectious. Sorry but I'm not making anyone feel anything. It's up to you how you feel and if you feel like a terrible person, well, make of that what you will.

But what if you've already had to have time off with gastroenteritis, then you get covid, and you need the odd day off due to children being unwell...you can't be sacked for a single period of sickness, that's true, but in many workplaces disciplinary processes can kick in for 3 episodes of absence and if you work in an environment where you're mixing with lots of people, or you have small kids in school or nursery (or you're just unlucky) it's easy to fall foul of those rules. Also, most workplaces will stipulate that you shouldn't come in with D&V, or something like chicken pox. When people say they're not "allowed" time off for covid they are saying they have been told by their workplaces that they will not be authorised time off for isolation, they are expected in work if they test positive.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 25/09/2023 15:00

I wouldn’t meet up with anyone or go into any kind of closed environment with anyone without telling them I had it and giving them the option to avoid. It’s selfish otherwise. Mind you, I’d do that for a bad cold or flu too.

If I felt perfectly well but was testing positive I’d go for walks and stuff