Are we classed as "poor" or average

Well that's water under the bridge. You have the kids - you can still work on progressing in a career. Do it now before you get older.

I wouldn't go to Turkey to get my nails done let alone anything more invasive!! - that couple is insane. Botox - wise up!! At least your face will still move and not look full of plastic.

Of course you have a great income. It's down to you if you want it to be more. Think ahead to your pension. Or what would happen if you and your DH were to separate?

And do something about it, because if you feel "useless" now, imagine how you will feel in the future?

Good luck.

Are you for real? You are well off. Think maybe you need to read the papers a bit, do some research, if your social circle is so narrow that you don't know anyone that works closer to average. And to get an average A LOT of people have to earn below the average.

Your friends have more money then you but they're not rich, poor sods had to go to Turkey to get their teeth done and can't afford to get their botox in a proper clinic.

But on a more serious note... you're not poor and you're not average, you're above average so stop whinging!

If I had my time again, I'd stay in my 3bed 2 bath semi and never move. Instead I've wasted £000's on tax, fees, moving and for what? A mortgage at the age of 57yo in the middle of a financial crisis.
Stop worrying what others have got. Focus on what you have, buy only what you need and enjoy your life.

OP this thread just isn't going to go well for you......
In a cost of living crisis, where people are panicking about how they are going to pay their winter fuel bills, afford their increased mortgage repayments due to the hike in interest rates, and struggle to pay for the weekly food shop because the cost of food has increased, asking if you're 'poor or average' when your household income is £70,000 PLUS the extra money that you earn each year on top of that (even at £12 an hour, over an entire year this is going to push the annual joint income much higher than £70,000), you are being naive at best and horrendously offensive and insensitive towards others at worst.
Do yourself a favour: Never compare yourself to others.

You are maybe less well off in your circle of friends. Happens all the time.

This one for the UK make you happier? The global one helps people like the OP put it in to comparison in their mind at how lucky they actually are.

@Waferbiscuit

OP says she does 3 days per week. Hardly tiny, is it.

We were "poor" when DS was a baby. DH was on 11k a year full time after tax, I earned £200 a month on part time wages, and we had about 5k a year with tax credits and child benefit. Around £18,500 a year in total for a family of 3.

We worked our arses off to get out of that situation and for someone who's spouse earns more than our joint income (around 55k after tax) to class themselves as poor is, quite frankly, insulting to those who actually are (or have been).

One couple both went to turkey to get their teeth done

Lol, they'll rue the day they did this.

😂😂😂

I am too busy attending to my own grass to notice if anyone elses is greener.

😂😂😂

Our house hold income is £60k and we are very comfortable ..... but of course that's not providing any context. You might struggle on 60k you might not. Depends on your situation

if you are paying for childcare you could feel poor. Even with some free hours the cost of childcare, especially in the London area,is horrific

Is this a joke?

I'm not surprised you are on £12 ph, but I am surprised your husband earns £70k and is presumably quite well educated.

I am sorry that you feel jealous of your DH's friends' wives and partners. Have you wondered why they may be successful. If you want more, raise your game and earn more.

To be fair if you have a high mortgage and young children and are ineligible for any benefits or top up I can imagine you are genuinely feeling the pinch. But the pinch is giving many families far bigger bruises.

@CantFindTheBeat - Many 'poor' women, like me, have to work when their children are young/pre-school. The OP being able to stay at home with them, and do a tiny bit of paid work, is another luxury that she somehow can't see.

A cohort on Mumsnet is oddly forgiving of women who make no or little income and are totally and utterly reliant on men -- but then forget about the economic pitfalls of that complete reliance, especially when they are told to 'LTB'.

I wonder if you started this to laugh at others. There are people on much less who manage, even some solo parents. You’re out of touch. You really are.

Global population? What is the point in that comparison?

The OP is quite rightly getting called out. She knows she's not poor. It's an insensitive post.

Some of these comments are beyond bitchy and are downright mean. Is MN really a place where only the utterly destitute can or should ask for advice??? And please. Do not come at me with “tone deaf” because we ALL have more than someone else. Stop being so bloody unkind.

Yes because when people have more than you they must be in debt. 🙄
sour grapes, much?

My old neighbours were very flashy with cash, you have to spend your ill gotten gains somehow.

(They actually were partaking in criminal activity, though obviously at the time we just suspected things were not above board)

No paying Botox and teeth back under the proceeds of crime act.

I guessed your income from the information you gave. Yeah you are so poor.........