Are we classed as "poor" or average

Our household income is the same as yours Op and we are pretty comfortable, we don't save very much due to high outgoings but we're by no means poor. Bills are always paid, everyone is well fed, we have holidays and don't have to worry about the cost of Xmas.

This is probably worth a read for you: https://theconversation.com/wealthy-but-worried-why-the-uks-top-10-are-turning-their-backs-on-the-rest-of-society-213270

You're not 'poor' but if you're filling your life with keeping up with the Jones stuff then it's relative. It's not fair to think of yourself as poor because that's offensive and incorrect but maybe you're not as rich as DH friends due to inheritance or bonuses at work or something else.

I remember this well. I'd walk an hour and a half each way to work as I couldn't scrape the 4.00 together for the bus. Whatever the weather, and it would mean often leaving at 4am for a 6.30 start in my old job. DH couldn't afford to run a car at the time.

It was thoroughly shit and quite frankly dangerous as a lone woman.

The OP is so tone deaf it is untrue.

OP, with the best will in the world, you're not even close to being poor or struggling.

Yes I know that folk in London and SE think that an income of less than £150k is impoverishment but you really aren't impoverished.

I agree with @Barbiesback

Surely you'd know if you're struggling to buy food, heat the house, pay the water bill. If you're not worried about that then no, you're not poor in my opinion.

My household income is way less than yours but I have never thought of myself as poor. As long as we have a roof over our heads, clothes, food everyday, and we are able to heat our homes - I am happy.

Here’s me worrying I won’t have the bus money to get to school this week! 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

I earn one billion pounds an hour and feel very poor compared to my friends who have facelifts every Thursday

am I poor?

We are a family of four earning much much less than you and even though we have no savings and find it hard at the end of the month I don’t consider myself ‘poor’ we have food on the table, a house to live in and are not cold at night! I know I’m lucky!

“Going to Turkey to get your teeth done” isn’t a sign of wealth. Being able to afford to get your teeth done in London, however, is surely a sign of being in the 1%.

@Mercurial123 no, it’s isn’t “insensitive” any more than it’s insensitive to post about a family income of less than say, £30k, because there will always be someone worse off than you. Are we really all in a race to the bottom and anyone who is perceived to have “more” is pilloried??

It only takes a quick google to see the MEAN household income in the UK is £32,000.

The poorest fifth of the UK is an average household income of £14,500.

The richest fifth of the UK is an average household income of £66,000.

So your blatantly among the richest.

(These are counted as after tax.)

Why are you even bothered about what others have?!

I'm not sure why you have posted this. You would know if you was struggling to do a food shop or buy clothes for your DC. Instead your comparing 700k houses a cinema room and botox. What a life......

OK, so my biggest regret is not looking after my career and earning capacity sooner. I was even in the fortunate position that DH did PT hours for childcare too.

As soon as you can change that situation as the older you get it just feels harder.

Isnt it just

Yes but being ‘relative’ doesn’t really mean much in this context. Simon Cowell is poor in comparison to Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos is probably poor compared to the Saudi Royal family.

You are well off. 70k is huge. Before tax we have household income 35k for two adults and 2 dcs aged 10-15. We are not poor. There are people with no food in the cupboard, no coins for the meter, no shoes for the kids, no sanitary products for dds. How can anyone think 70k plus a smaller wage on top is anything other than very fortunate?!

Destitute, certainly with a mindset that places value on having hairdo's and Botox as a mark of success. How utterly depressing.

Are you like one of those people who say they’re poor because they’re down to their last million? Unless you are incredibly dense you know perfectly well £70k plus whatever you earn does not make you poor. You’re not even average, as well you know.

It's all relative I think you are rich!!! But we are on about 25k as a family of four lol

is this a piss take?

Depends on your mortgage - if you're free then, no, you're not 'poor'. If you're paying 2k a month mortgage then I can see that you'd feel you were just getting by/average.

Poor is a subjective term.

@OhhhhhhhhBiscuits You've used an estimate of the OPs gross household income, not net. But your point does stand. Net I estimated £61,500 when accounting for tax and NI. Still puts them around 71% - clearly well above average.

I guess their actual spending power will feel very different depending on their exact circumstances. Eg. Expensive childcare, large mortgage etc.

But certainly well above average.

I’m so sorry for your desperate situation. Thoughts and prayers…