Are we classed as "poor" or average

I hope so. What a fucking idiot.

Oh do fuck off. Bloody stupid and insulting flaming question. We live on around a third of what you and your husband earn and don’t class ourselves as particularly poor.

Your husband alone earns nearly 3x the average income not including your 3 days at 12PH.
youre affluent

Do you even know how lucky you are that you can save at all for your new kitchen? Or that you even own your own home? In fact, you're lucky that you even have a home.

I assume this is a joke post.

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You feel “comfortable” but are wondering if you’re actually “poor”? Are you aware that bread is an option when you’re chomping on your cake?

Well I think you are better off without tombstone teeth and (what I imagine is) poorly done Botox.

You do need to give yourself a clout OP - you are well off as a family.

If you want to earn more make a plan to do that.

And if you want to get your teeth done, earn enough that you don’t have to get it done on the cheap in Turkey..

DH & I are on about £70k combined, and we both work full-time.

You're not doing too badly.

Higher than average definitely not poor....

To put it into perspective, on another thread I was told I need to accept that I need to "live within my means" and "Stop over reaching" and our household income is 1/2 of yours.

There was a post thd other wee saying the median HOUSEHOLD income is 35k so according to that you are way above average.

Um....do you want lip fillers and botox?

As for cinema rooms and bars...how often are they actually used?? Per use I imagine they cost £££££££

I wouldn't want any of the above ^ 🤷

I earn 26k, DH is self employed and his income varies from low to fairly average (real life average, not MN average)
Almost everyone I know where I live has more disposable income than we do, and a more luxurious lifestyle....but I'm under no illusion that we are poor. We chose to live in a fairly expensive area so are surrounded by people who are better off!

Single parent here on £21k + some tax credits with 2 kids, one with SEN… I think you’ll survive 🙄

"I can't afford a cinema room, am I poor?"

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Fuck off love. There are teenage girls that stay home from school when on their periods because the family can't afford sanitary products.
There was a mum in a foodbank the other week who was so hungry she stepped out onto the street and immediately opened a tin of beans from the bag they gave her to shove in her mouth because she was on the verve of passing out. She'd given every crumb she had to her babies.
There are kids pretending to eat out of empty lunchboxes so their friends can't see they have no food
There's families storing bits of old cardboard up for the winter and chopping up their furniture so they can light fires indoors to stay warm.

Want to feel better that you can't have botox? Go and volunteer at a soup kitchen or something. It will soon put things into perspective.

Oh and your qualifications? There are homeless people with degrees. Don't think there isn't.

If you were poor OP, you wouldn't have to ask.

People who install bars in their own homes always make me feel better about my own shit life choices. At least I’m not them…a thought I can cling to during the dark times.

Comparison is the thief of joy OP. If you compare yourself to someone earning £50k plus then yes, I would say you can’t keep up with things like Botox and a huge house and may well feel poor to people who earn more. 🤷🏼‍♀️It’s all relative, people can have huge salaries and be useless with money.
£70k isn’t that high these days.

My salary is quite high, at least I think it is, not mn high but still - I am useless with money, I give a lot to charity, I buy clothes all the time for DD and shoes, toys. A simple day out in London and I spent a ridiculous amount on lunch, dinner, some gifts for friends, toys, activities.

A lot of people are on the poverty line, can’t afford treats like eating out, Sky movies, internet, days out, basics like food and sanitary products, somewhere to live.

By comparison even those struggling in this country likely don’t have to walk 5 hours to get some filthy water to drink….

I think you know very well you are not poor.

I would say a long way above average

That’s double our income and we feel average. I’d say you were very well off. 70k is a huge salary.

OP,

Most people in the UK are poor. Think £35k/year household income average.

You just feel "worse" because you are comparing yourself to your peers (who seem to have more dispodable income than you do).

The truth?

Its all relative. You have to be happy woth what you have (now), but still be willing to work hard to advance further (future).

I am telling you this as someone in a family with household income > £150k

Oh come off it! I refuse to believe anyone is this tone deaf. You KNOW you're not poor, far from it. Just because you choose to hang around with a bunch of numpties, doesn't mean you're poor..or even average for that matter!

For perspective, our joint household income is around 45-50k after tax. We work 90 hours between us pw to earn that. I would say we are doing ok for ourselves, relatively comfortable. Plenty for bills, a little bit of savings and the odd holidays and treats.

If you're that bothered about earning more and affording cinema rooms and Botox - work more! But perhaps given your clouded judgment, a little bit of volunteer work at a food bank or homeless shelter would be more beneficial!

God there’s some right arseholes about on mumsnet these days.

That’s a higher income than ours and we have 2 in secondary school and we feel
about average