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Am I doing enough?

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ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 09:44

I have been living with my partner for the last 3 years but I still have my own house which I’m still paying for. My partner has full custody of his Son who is 13 who doesn’t see his Mum. I don’t feel I’m in a position to give my house up as when me & my partner have arguments he says in anger, “ go home” but then doesn’t like it if I call my house “home” so I don’t feel confident enough to give the house up.
My partner expects me to cook meals for him and his Son as he works long hours (self employed) and this is becoming a “bone of contention” between us. My partner feels like I don’t do enough. I should mention that I have ADHD and I really dislike and struggle with cooking as it stresses me out so much and I feel that he should not expect me to do the cooking (but I do sometimes) I feel it’s his house not mine. I do all the laundry for him and his Son, wash up after all meals, clean the house, (4 bedroom detached, 2 bathrooms, so not small, iron uniforms, sort things out for his Son, parent his Son, take him to his cadets. I also do things for my partner when he asks. The other week, for example I went out of my way to put money in the bank for his business which was in another town. I sort everything out for holidays, Christmas etc. I feel sometimes the only thing I do get out of the relationship is the fact he makes my meals. We don’t get any time on our own as a couple as we always have the child with us, and I accept this. I don’t contribute financially because he won’t take anything and I am still paying for my house. I feel my contribution to the house is doing what I do for him and his Son. I do work myself.

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ChandlerJ354 · 15/09/2023 10:10

@TibetanTerrah Thank you.🥰Overall he is a decent man. It happened when we had an argument him saying I didn’t do enough and he is under stress but I’ve made it clear that’s not my problem. But without a doubt, if it does happen I’m gone for good. Once I make the decision and I go, I’ve told him there will be no going back and I think he knows me well enough to know I mean it. I know he feels bad about it because of how he behaved last night. I think he thought they were just words he said when he was angry, but I told him he’s not understanding how that makes me feel and how much resentment that creates, even when said in anger I still believe it.

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ChandlerJ354 · 15/09/2023 09:59

@Chunkyspunkymunkey

I didn’t mention love etc as I didn’t think it was relevant. I just wanted confirmation that I was doing more than enough. We do love each other because believe me we would not be together. I have no wishes to get married. And like @Catza mentioned he has his own business and also quite wealthy. He would be putting a lot at risk if he got married to someone with very unequal finances. He’s heard too many stories of marriages breaking up and the wealthy one has lost a lot. I accept he has a child and I’m more than willing to help. I don’t mind the housework as I don’t contribute financially. What I don’t like was him saying that I didn’t do enough which was being reinforced by his brother and friend, he then started resenting me for it. I have pointed out to him, that because he’s busy with his business etc then he should not be expecting me to take up the slack with everything else. It’s up to him to make changes to free up time when it comes to his working hours. This is also something he has been trying to do by taking on someone who can do his job, this is proving difficult. He at present works 12-13 hours days 5 days a week then works on a Saturday usually all day, he is under alot of stress. But like I’ve said to him, he’d have more to do if I wasn’t here doing it all. I’m going away soon abroad without him so will probably be an eye opener. We shall see.

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ChandlerJ354 · 15/09/2023 09:45

@Butterkist8

I do love him but the problems we were having is that he doesn’t appreciate my contributions and expects more. I have made it clear I won’t be doing anything more than I already do. I know he loves me. We just seemed to have built up resentment about who does what and him thinking I didn’t do much because it wasn’t what he wanted me to be doing. He now accepts my point after we sat down and talked without arguing. I read him the comments from this post.
It’s up to him now. If he does it again there won’t even be a discussion. But I feel I need to give it a chance. We shall see.

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ChandlerJ354 · 15/09/2023 09:39

@AgentProvocateur I do love him yes, that’s why I’m still here trying to find a resolution and needed confirmation that I am doing more than enough. Yes I still fancy him and I know he loves me he just has issues as I do, I think down to his upbringing. I can be challenging and I think after speaking to him he says “go home” because he cannot deal with any confrontation. I’m not a very romantic person and neither is he. I’ve accepted that I’ve taken on someone who has a child and they come as a package. We quite often walk our dog together and go for meals on our own. I also accept that he had very little time due to his business. I think he now does believe I do enough and I feel I got my point across and he feels guilty for making me feel the way he did by saying my contribution didn’t count as I did so little. We will see, if he does it again I really am gone. I said once I make the decision it will be too late and there will be no way back, ever. I know I’m under no obligation to do things for his Son but I know it makes life a little easier for him, but he has to appreciate it as even if I did nothing else parenting his child is the most important thing I could be doing.

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Butterkist8 · 15/09/2023 09:09

@MeinKraft is spot on.

You talk in terms of money and chores yet precious little about feelings, love, being together...

Giving ultimatums rarely works. You'll both be on your mettles the whole time til one of you snaps under the stress of it all.

He's shown you his character already.

Catza · 15/09/2023 08:41

Chunkyspunkymunkey · 15/09/2023 00:16

I still think you are selling yourself short. You have assumed the responsibilities of wife and de facto mother, without any hope of marriage. After 7 years you could reasonably have expectations of marrying him. I suspect he is protecting his money by kindly not expecting you to pay towards the mortgage, yet you are an unpaid housekeeper and nanny allowing him to make lots of money by supporting him.

On the other hand, you don’t mention love, romance to sex much in your post. Really not sure you are the winner here.

Why do you assume everyone wants to get married? I don't and given that my partner (and hers) runs his own business, marriage is just not going to happen as legally joining assets with a sole trader is just crazy thinking.

TibetanTerrah · 15/09/2023 05:59

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 21:18

Hello everyone. Thank you so much for your responses.

Ive spoken to my partner tonight and gave him the ultimatum. He either changes and starts to recognise and appreciate my value in this relationship or I’m gone and won’t look back. I am not prepared to do more than I’m already doing for the “team” as he calls us. I told him I’ve posted on here and read out all your valued responses, which he seems to of taken onboard. He is a good man but has old fashioned views which are fed by equally old fashioned people around him telling him what I should be doing because they’re overgrown babies. He is a workaholic and I again told him this is his choice to work the hours he does, but to not make that my responsibility. I also reiterated, that if he ever says to me again I don’t do enough, I’m gone and will show him what doing it on his own really feels like when he doesn’t have me supporting him.

He’s in last chance saloon now. I’m giving him 3 months to improve. I’m just glad I kept my house. I’m going away next month abroad with my Sister and I think this alone will give him a wake up call that I am starting to break free, as since meeting him I stopped going on hols with my sister and instead went with him and his Son.

I think this is a good plan. Many posters will tell you you're wrong, but I think an ultimatum can make things clearer. Especially if up until now he's pushed back against any resistance from you, and your response has been to resist less.

You have challenged him to treat you as an equal, or nothing at all. While some posters may see this is the bare minimum you should expect in a relationship, after 7 years I can totally see why you would give him a chance by expressing what you need clearly, and leaving the ball in his court to step up, or set you free.

All I will say is please ensure you stick to it, if he says 'go home' - do and don't come back or engage. He knows the consequences of saying that, so it goes from a habit to a choice. Ditto with moaning you don't do 'enough'.

You can always update this thread 2-3 months down the line and people here will support you whatever happens Flowers

MeinKraft · 15/09/2023 00:36

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 22:21

@AgentProvocateur I do get things from the relationship. He pays for holidays and anything we do together and he does show that he cares for me, But he is selfish in a lot of ways. He’s not the type who goes off and does his own thing much and he’s happy for me to do things independent of him. I feel that I should get more out of it than I am doing. It just seems to be resentment growing on both sides, he feels like I should do more to support him, and I say I do enough already and other than cook my meals and pay what does he do for me? But time is something he doesn’t have. I tell him I’m not in this relationship for the good of my health I need to feel that it benefits me too and anything I am doing he needs to appreciate it and that I’m not under obligation to do it. I read him the comments tonight and I think it really shocked him and he’s admitted that he’s been out of order by saying (when we argue) that I don’t do enough. I’ve made it clear that his responsibilities shouldn’t be mine, and if he doesn’t start recognising my efforts with him and his son I’m going. I appreciate he is under alot of stress with his business and this is something I’ve always accepted in the years we’ve been together. I don’t mind doing the housework etc as I work far less hours than him and I don’t contribute financially. He just needed to realise that everything I do do for him and his son is taken onboard and appreciated far more than what he was doing. The issue was he was telling me I wasn’t doing enough. I have now given him an ultimatum. If he ever says it again or says “go home” when we fall out, I am gone for good. And I’m a woman of my word.

All the 'who gets what' out of the relationship seems to be about who does the work, who pays for what. Do you love him, is he loving towards you? Would you miss him? Do you fancy him? Because it sounds like you are doing an awful lot for someone who you don't feel romantic towards or even lust after.

Lahdedahiam · 15/09/2023 00:18

Humidititties · 14/09/2023 09:50

Go home, he's using you as a housekeeper - you're better than this

This

Chunkyspunkymunkey · 15/09/2023 00:16

I still think you are selling yourself short. You have assumed the responsibilities of wife and de facto mother, without any hope of marriage. After 7 years you could reasonably have expectations of marrying him. I suspect he is protecting his money by kindly not expecting you to pay towards the mortgage, yet you are an unpaid housekeeper and nanny allowing him to make lots of money by supporting him.

On the other hand, you don’t mention love, romance to sex much in your post. Really not sure you are the winner here.

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 22:21

@AgentProvocateur I do get things from the relationship. He pays for holidays and anything we do together and he does show that he cares for me, But he is selfish in a lot of ways. He’s not the type who goes off and does his own thing much and he’s happy for me to do things independent of him. I feel that I should get more out of it than I am doing. It just seems to be resentment growing on both sides, he feels like I should do more to support him, and I say I do enough already and other than cook my meals and pay what does he do for me? But time is something he doesn’t have. I tell him I’m not in this relationship for the good of my health I need to feel that it benefits me too and anything I am doing he needs to appreciate it and that I’m not under obligation to do it. I read him the comments tonight and I think it really shocked him and he’s admitted that he’s been out of order by saying (when we argue) that I don’t do enough. I’ve made it clear that his responsibilities shouldn’t be mine, and if he doesn’t start recognising my efforts with him and his son I’m going. I appreciate he is under alot of stress with his business and this is something I’ve always accepted in the years we’ve been together. I don’t mind doing the housework etc as I work far less hours than him and I don’t contribute financially. He just needed to realise that everything I do do for him and his son is taken onboard and appreciated far more than what he was doing. The issue was he was telling me I wasn’t doing enough. I have now given him an ultimatum. If he ever says it again or says “go home” when we fall out, I am gone for good. And I’m a woman of my word.

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AgentProvocateur · 14/09/2023 21:45

He’s hit the jackpot - a free maid and nanny who he also gets to have sex with! What do YOU get out of the relationship, apart from some meals?

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 21:18

Hello everyone. Thank you so much for your responses.

Ive spoken to my partner tonight and gave him the ultimatum. He either changes and starts to recognise and appreciate my value in this relationship or I’m gone and won’t look back. I am not prepared to do more than I’m already doing for the “team” as he calls us. I told him I’ve posted on here and read out all your valued responses, which he seems to of taken onboard. He is a good man but has old fashioned views which are fed by equally old fashioned people around him telling him what I should be doing because they’re overgrown babies. He is a workaholic and I again told him this is his choice to work the hours he does, but to not make that my responsibility. I also reiterated, that if he ever says to me again I don’t do enough, I’m gone and will show him what doing it on his own really feels like when he doesn’t have me supporting him.

He’s in last chance saloon now. I’m giving him 3 months to improve. I’m just glad I kept my house. I’m going away next month abroad with my Sister and I think this alone will give him a wake up call that I am starting to break free, as since meeting him I stopped going on hols with my sister and instead went with him and his Son.

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Mooomooland · 14/09/2023 14:48

Heavens no, yanbu

LifeExperience · 14/09/2023 14:24

He's got a housekeeper, nanny and general dogsbody he can shag. What a deal for him! And if his servant acts up, he tells her she's selfish to get her back in line. Awful, truly awful.

Leave and don't go back. He doesn't appreciate you or respect you, which means he doesn't love you. You deserve much more.

Catza · 14/09/2023 14:09

It's a terribly nice thing of you to parent a child and I am reluctant to say this because MN seems to have problems with either treating stepchildren as one's own or not (depending on the local weather) but in this instance I would not be a default parent. Not because the child seems troublesome (let's face it anyone would be if they were essentially dumped by both parents) but because your partner doesn't take any responsibility for parenting at all. "I do it just because nobody else would" is not a good enough reason to carry this by yourself. He needs to step up and parent or find an alternative arrangement - relatives, back to mum's, whatever. This is not on you.
The more I think about your relationship the more I want to cancel my earlier post and just say move back to your own house and take a pause. Your partner won't like it but it is no longer your concern. Don't do it as a result of an argument, just tell him you both need to take time to think about the current arrangement and you are going to move home for now and let things settle.

ASCCM · 14/09/2023 14:08

Bloody hell love, go home and find someone who wants a relationship and not a housekeeper.

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 14:06

@DinoMummsy Yes he is very selfish but doesn’t see himself like that. He’s quite a nice bloke does have some qualities but I’m starting to see his true colours. The first few years we were together I used to just come and stay then go home to my Son. Easier for me to go to him because he always had his child. Everything seems to be his way and I’ve just had to fit into his life.

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DinoMummsy · 14/09/2023 14:03

He sounds like a selfish arsehole who's just using you. I would run a mile!

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 14:00

@lechatnoir The son has done so many things including helping himself to over £1000 of his Dads money buying stuff on Fortnite game when he was about 9. Was taking his debit card, partner never checked his bank much then (does now!) the child tells lies constantly and just basically doing the wrong thing when he’s not being watched but he gets caught out usually by me. Mum doesn’t see him at all. He was used to getting away with murder because no one was parenting him. Partner never wanted children but child’s mother got pregnant. (He should of not taken her word that she was on pill) Granted he’s took him and did the right thing but partner has always been more interested in his business hence why he didn’t want children. I feel like I have to parent child because no one else does. I’ve already brought 2 up and when the relationship started child wasn’t with him all the time. (He was with the mum 3 nights a week)

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lechatnoir · 14/09/2023 13:48

The poor DS is running circles around you both because he's probably just trying to get his dad's attention. You should NOT be parenting him, you are NOT a maid or housewife so please pack up today and go back to your own house life's too short to put up with that sort of shit.

ChandlerJ354 · 14/09/2023 13:43

Just to clarify I don’t do the cooking he does, this is one of the things creating the issue. He’s expecting me to. He does the food shopping even though I’ve offered and he cooks but we tent to eat out alot too which he pays for. But I have offered money for my being here but I see all the other things I do as my contribution.

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billyt · 14/09/2023 13:13

His brother and friends say he's been taken for a mug?

I assume that he told you this, not them? Because unless you hear it direct it is bollocks. Never hear someone saying that their relatives/friends have told me I'm a selfish, greedy, lazy twat.

PussInBin20 · 14/09/2023 13:06

Go back home for a while and then he might see exactly what you do do. My DH doesn’t see a lot of what I do (as I mostly just get on with things) and I’ve said to him That he would only know if I was not here!

It might be the kick up the bum he needs.

ManateeFair · 14/09/2023 12:56

I’ve tried explaining this to him that he’s expecting me to take on responsibility like we’re married.

Even if you were married, his expectations that you do basically everything, including parenting his child, would be completely unreasonable. He's treating you like dirt. Please end this relationship; it's not going to improve.